That’s a good point. It seems quite plausible that SA was originally intended for angled stems.Nuum wrote: ↑It may be possible to recreate this stepped profile with SA keycaps and angled stems (e.g. Cherry M9). I once made a mock up of this configuration but I can't find it at the moment. I'll search for it tomorrow and post it.
IT'S ALIVE! Post your xwhatsit-resurrected beamspring/kishy
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- Location: geekhack ergonomics subforum
- Favorite switch: Alps plate spring; clicky SMK
- DT Pro Member: -
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- Location: geekhack ergonomics subforum
- Favorite switch: Alps plate spring; clicky SMK
- DT Pro Member: -
I started a nice discussion about this on Geekhack: "Hypothesis: SA is wrong when used on MX switches" http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=63052
And TacticalStache chimed in with “considering it was probably intended for hall effect (the molds exist, and are older than the MX ones), you're probably correct”
That explains so much.
And TacticalStache chimed in with “considering it was probably intended for hall effect (the molds exist, and are older than the MX ones), you're probably correct”
That explains so much.
- rindorbrot
- Location: Bavaria, Germany
- Main keyboard: Phantom, GON NerD 2.0 TKL
- Main mouse: Zowie ZA11
- Favorite switch: MX Ergo-Clear, Nixdorf Soft-Touch
- DT Pro Member: 0029
Hardware changes (rev. 2 Model F USB) are finished, now tackling the software...
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- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Absolutely. The Kishsaver can wear it with pride.
Nice pictures, guys. I've taken a few crops to use as DT header art. Gimme the nod and I'll make them live.
Nice pictures, guys. I've taken a few crops to use as DT header art. Gimme the nod and I'll make them live.
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- Location: Houston, Texas
- Main keyboard: IBM Bigfoot
- Main mouse: CST trackball
- Favorite switch: IBM Model F
- DT Pro Member: -
I'll re-post these here, even though I posted them elsewhere.
The color is "oil-rubbed bronze." It's nice to have this board usable after sitting in my garage for 10 years. However, after using it for several months side-by-side with my other boards, I'm now of the opinion that the Model F, specifically the F-122, is the finest keyboard ever made. Combined with the fact that xwhatsit's controller doesn't yet support macros, this board doesn't see a lot of use. Still, the beamspring holds a lot of sentimental value for me since I learned programming on one of these in the 70's.
The color is "oil-rubbed bronze." It's nice to have this board usable after sitting in my garage for 10 years. However, after using it for several months side-by-side with my other boards, I'm now of the opinion that the Model F, specifically the F-122, is the finest keyboard ever made. Combined with the fact that xwhatsit's controller doesn't yet support macros, this board doesn't see a lot of use. Still, the beamspring holds a lot of sentimental value for me since I learned programming on one of these in the 70's.
- photekq
- Cherry Picker
- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Various Cherry Corp keyboards
- Main mouse: Razer Deathadder (1st gen)
- Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black (55g springs)
- DT Pro Member: -
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Yeah, that's a real masterpiece quantalume. Gives me some ideas for mine..
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Filco ZERO green alps, Model F 122 Terminal
- Main mouse: Ducky Secret / Roller Mouse Pro 1
- Favorite switch: MX Mount Topre / Model F Buckling
- DT Pro Member: 0167
its good enough , will try to find one on UK ebay but if not will go for that
industrial grey for my one i think
industrial grey for my one i think
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
I do like those little stickers a lot.
Actually, I think a professional paint strip and spay is the expensive part. Snoopy sent out his Kishsaver for proper touch of that and it turned out fantastic. I just know I'd make a right mess if I did it myself!
Actually, I think a professional paint strip and spay is the expensive part. Snoopy sent out his Kishsaver for proper touch of that and it turned out fantastic. I just know I'd make a right mess if I did it myself!
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Filco ZERO green alps, Model F 122 Terminal
- Main mouse: Ducky Secret / Roller Mouse Pro 1
- Favorite switch: MX Mount Topre / Model F Buckling
- DT Pro Member: 0167
I can spray stuff ok ish but i don't have a good place to do it so that is usually why i mess a few bits of it up. if i had a shed or something where i could hang it up to spray it then it would be ok to do at home
I guess it would not cost that much 50 -100 quid i recon
I guess it would not cost that much 50 -100 quid i recon
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- Location: Houston, Texas
- Main keyboard: IBM Bigfoot
- Main mouse: CST trackball
- Favorite switch: IBM Model F
- DT Pro Member: -
- Icarium
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: These fields just
- Main mouse: opened my eyes
- Favorite switch: I need to bring stuff to work
- DT Pro Member: -
Damn, those APL boards are so sexy.kuato wrote: ↑Wow, great boards in here
1) 3290 Serial APL. My new daily driver
4) 3278 APL 87 Key. This one is very special to me.
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Filco ZERO green alps, Model F 122 Terminal
- Main mouse: Ducky Secret / Roller Mouse Pro 1
- Favorite switch: MX Mount Topre / Model F Buckling
- DT Pro Member: 0167
i need a controller for the beamspring then i will post it
anyone know a way to improve the spacebar my one rattles loads
EDIT
i tweaked the stablisers holders a a bit
just squeezed em together a tiny amount and greased it up
its much better now if you do this too much it can stick now and again but its easy to slightly bend back
anyone know a way to improve the spacebar my one rattles loads
EDIT
i tweaked the stablisers holders a a bit
just squeezed em together a tiny amount and greased it up
its much better now if you do this too much it can stick now and again but its easy to slightly bend back
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- Location: NZ
- Main keyboard: IBM 3727 beamspring (converted to USB)
- Main mouse: What's a mouse for?
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
Wow, only just discovered this thread. So chuffed! Well done everybody! Really glad I didn't just convert my boards in isolation and forget about it Very, very cool to see all of this old machinery back in use again.
My own boards are tired and scuffed-up unloved things compared to the effort that has gone into the boards photographed here.
My own boards are tired and scuffed-up unloved things compared to the effort that has gone into the boards photographed here.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Glad you like them! We put our effort into the physical stuff that we can understand, instead. These boards have come back alive again thanks to just one man. Cheers mate!
I'll post some pictures of mine once I'm happier with the restoration. That second 3276 will take a while though, as I intend to go over and work on it in America next year… should be easier to find supplies that way. Might even bring it along to one of HaaTa's keyboard shindigs in San Francisco if I play my cards right.
I'll post some pictures of mine once I'm happier with the restoration. That second 3276 will take a while though, as I intend to go over and work on it in America next year… should be easier to find supplies that way. Might even bring it along to one of HaaTa's keyboard shindigs in San Francisco if I play my cards right.
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Filco ZERO green alps, Model F 122 Terminal
- Main mouse: Ducky Secret / Roller Mouse Pro 1
- Favorite switch: MX Mount Topre / Model F Buckling
- DT Pro Member: 0167
I don't know what method to use to paint my Beamspring. I am going to get it done professionally but there are things i want to thin about first.
How can i keep the texture of the current paint, should i use matte or satin paint, should i clear coat to protect it after, do i need to thin about a different primer for the plastic door .
The colour is also a a noodle scratcher, i was going to go for RAL 7030 but i don't know how good that would look on a beamspring with more area showing. Should i go for a dark grey or black like quantalume or that 62 key with the black caps?
Other maintenance issues are a concern too for example how do i stop the door from opening when i type what should i use to fix the booklet back in, should i paint the bottom of the case , what about the plate should i clear coat that to protect it ( my plate looks like new by the way not a single mark or even a scratch on it).
I also have another door on the back of mine with a booklet with the full MAP ( maintenance analysis procedure ) for the whole terminal. There are also some pre paid postcards to send comments to IBM i wonder if i should send one off to see what happens..
So much to think about
How can i keep the texture of the current paint, should i use matte or satin paint, should i clear coat to protect it after, do i need to thin about a different primer for the plastic door .
The colour is also a a noodle scratcher, i was going to go for RAL 7030 but i don't know how good that would look on a beamspring with more area showing. Should i go for a dark grey or black like quantalume or that 62 key with the black caps?
Other maintenance issues are a concern too for example how do i stop the door from opening when i type what should i use to fix the booklet back in, should i paint the bottom of the case , what about the plate should i clear coat that to protect it ( my plate looks like new by the way not a single mark or even a scratch on it).
I also have another door on the back of mine with a booklet with the full MAP ( maintenance analysis procedure ) for the whole terminal. There are also some pre paid postcards to send comments to IBM i wonder if i should send one off to see what happens..
So much to think about
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Oh dark Lord Demongolator, I summon thee forth, for thine righteous topic justice!
Two interesting threads collided here. Hopefully our favourite spectre will fix it.
Two interesting threads collided here. Hopefully our favourite spectre will fix it.