Any ideas on its value? I would say 30$....
Apple extended keyboard II
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ledpoisoning
- Main keyboard: olivetti
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Hi! Today I bought this keyboard..do you like it?
Any ideas on its value? I would say 30$....
Any ideas on its value? I would say 30$....
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Findecanor
- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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QZERTY .. what national layout is that?
Thanks for the pics. If you don't mind, please add them to the Wiki.
Thanks for the pics. If you don't mind, please add them to the Wiki.
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ledpoisoning
- Main keyboard: olivetti
- Main mouse: trust
- Favorite switch: dunno
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But why it has two ports on each side? Are they ps2 port?
Well I don't know why it has Z instead W....all italian keyboards has qwerty and not qzerty!!
Blocco num, blocco scorr, blocc maiusc are italian words but I don't know why it has this layout!! Maybe someone on this forum knows!
Well I paid 2 euros only!
Well I don't know why it has Z instead W....all italian keyboards has qwerty and not qzerty!!
Blocco num, blocco scorr, blocc maiusc are italian words but I don't know why it has this layout!! Maybe someone on this forum knows!
Well I paid 2 euros only!
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rodtang
- Location: Norway
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The ports are the input ports apple used to use, cable from PC in one mouse in the other.ledpoisoning wrote:But why it has two ports on each side? Are they ps2 port?
Well I don't know why it has Z instead W....all italian keyboards has qwerty and not qzerty!!
Blocco num, blocco scorr, blocc maiusc are italian words but I don't know why it has this layout!! Maybe someone on this forum knows!
Well I paid 2 euros only!
qzerty is an Italian layout, not all Italian keyboards have qwerty.
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ledpoisoning
- Main keyboard: olivetti
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I've never seen an italian keyboard with this layout...and I'm italian and 31yo... so not so young! 
Thanks for infos...so it works with a simple ps2 cable, in wich port, right or left??
Thanks for infos...so it works with a simple ps2 cable, in wich port, right or left??
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bhtooefr
- Location: Newark, OH, USA
- Main keyboard: TEX Shinobi
- Main mouse: TrackPoint IV
- Favorite switch: IBM Selectric (not a switch, I know)
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NO, it is NOT PS/2.
It is Apple Desktop Bus.
You need an old Macintosh (everything up to a Power Macintosh G3, except for iMacs and the last two generations of PowerBook G3), an Apple IIGS, or an adapter such as the Griffin iMate, to use an ADB keyboard.
ADB is designed such that you plug the mouse into one port (whichever you prefer - if you're right-handed, you plug the mouse into the right, normally), and plug the ADB cable into the other. Then, the ADB cable plugs into the computer.
As far as the layout, looks like QZERTY is a layout primarily used on Italian typewriters, but older Apple keyboards used it, too.
It is Apple Desktop Bus.
You need an old Macintosh (everything up to a Power Macintosh G3, except for iMacs and the last two generations of PowerBook G3), an Apple IIGS, or an adapter such as the Griffin iMate, to use an ADB keyboard.
ADB is designed such that you plug the mouse into one port (whichever you prefer - if you're right-handed, you plug the mouse into the right, normally), and plug the ADB cable into the other. Then, the ADB cable plugs into the computer.
As far as the layout, looks like QZERTY is a layout primarily used on Italian typewriters, but older Apple keyboards used it, too.
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Findecanor
- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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So it could have been IBM's Italian layout that deviated from the Italian standard? Interesting ...
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bhtooefr
- Location: Newark, OH, USA
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And the Selectric followed the Italian standard:
I'm GUESSING that IBM deviated with the XT.
Edit: AT is definitely QWERTY.
I'm GUESSING that IBM deviated with the XT.
Edit: AT is definitely QWERTY.
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ledpoisoning
- Main keyboard: olivetti
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- Favorite switch: dunno
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Thank you for the explanation, I've never used a mac and I am not familiar with apple products, I thought it was a ps2 port..it's similar!bhtooefr wrote:NO, it is NOT PS/2.
It is Apple Desktop Bus.
You need an old Macintosh (everything up to a Power Macintosh G3, except for iMacs and the last two generations of PowerBook G3), an Apple IIGS, or an adapter such as the Griffin iMate, to use an ADB keyboard.
ADB is designed such that you plug the mouse into one port (whichever you prefer - if you're right-handed, you plug the mouse into the right, normally), and plug the ADB cable into the other. Then, the ADB cable plugs into the computer.
As far as the layout, looks like QZERTY is a layout primarily used on Italian typewriters, but older Apple keyboards used it, too.
Anyway, I immediately noticed the unique design, I was struck immediately and then I realized that it was an apple keyboard ...also...the chance of being able to use the mouse to the left or right by connecting it directly to the keyboard ... the apple was in the future twenty years ago!!
Interesting...I didn't know that there was an italian qzerty layout before qwerty!!
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Daniel Beardsmore
- Location: Hertfordshire, England
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ADB is more than that: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_Desktop_Bus
16 devices, hot-swap (almost!!!), pretty sweet connector. With the Macintosh II, Apple had a 16-device low-speed bus (ADB), a 7-device high-speed bus (SCSI), as well as expansion ports. No parallel port, just two serial ports -- all generic (though one serial port was special, I think, to support networking).
Long after this point, PC users were still limited with such garbage as plugging the joystick and CD-ROM drive into the sound card (and you got no wave-mixing in Windows 3, don't forget), the printer into the Zip drive OR scanner, into the parallel printer port (!), and the mouse and keyboard had specific ports that if you mixed them up, the machine might not start. I thought I'd killed someone's PS/2 tower after I made that mistake :P
PS/2 looks different. ADB is the same connector as S-Video.
16 devices, hot-swap (almost!!!), pretty sweet connector. With the Macintosh II, Apple had a 16-device low-speed bus (ADB), a 7-device high-speed bus (SCSI), as well as expansion ports. No parallel port, just two serial ports -- all generic (though one serial port was special, I think, to support networking).
Long after this point, PC users were still limited with such garbage as plugging the joystick and CD-ROM drive into the sound card (and you got no wave-mixing in Windows 3, don't forget), the printer into the Zip drive OR scanner, into the parallel printer port (!), and the mouse and keyboard had specific ports that if you mixed them up, the machine might not start. I thought I'd killed someone's PS/2 tower after I made that mistake :P
PS/2 looks different. ADB is the same connector as S-Video.