I'm way too stupid to add the information to the wiki. It would be my honor if you could do that
IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
- jensma
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Classic IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- Contact:
- tactica
- Location: La Coruña, Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: MSI Clutch GM40
- Favorite switch: Buckling springs for now
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Heh. I was thinking of the ITW switch when I suggested you to add the info yourself. Identifying an Alps clone is beyond my abilities, so far I haven't found a match in the wiki either. In a worst case scenario it will have to be filed as another unknown.
- jensma
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Classic IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- Contact:
- thefarside
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F107
- Main mouse: Old, boring Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
They look like blue alps.jensma wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 18:28Yet another switch that need identification wiki/Codegen_Technology_CG-84A1
- tactica
- Location: La Coruña, Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: MSI Clutch GM40
- Favorite switch: Buckling springs for now
- DT Pro Member: -
You have to open at least one, and possibly the one under the space bar too as the spring something is likely to be different. External looks alone don't help identifying Alps clones, and the pictures you have submitted don't even provide complete details of the external looks either.jensma wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 18:28Yet another switch that need identification wiki/Codegen_Technology_CG-84A1
Then there's those random colours across the board that I hope are due to aging plastics and not mixed up switches...
- thefarside
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F107
- Main mouse: Old, boring Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
The switches and varied colors looks exactly like my Omni Key 102 and Focus FK-555 with blue alps, along with the stamps on the housing, but it couldn’t hurt to open them up
- jensma
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Classic IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- Contact:
Alrighty! I just added a stabilizer 3D model to the wiki since I broke three of them when disassembling the keyboard. They are extremely brittle Then I desoldered a switch to open it but it really seems to be an Alps? There was a logo on the bottom, pics are here: https://imgur.com/a/61H8e1Btactica wrote: ↑08 May 2024, 05:29You have to open at least one, and possibly the one under the space bar too as the spring something is likely to be different. External looks alone don't help identifying Alps clones, and the pictures you have submitted don't even provide complete details of the external looks either.jensma wrote: ↑07 May 2024, 18:28Yet another switch that need identification wiki/Codegen_Technology_CG-84A1
Then there's those random colours across the board that I hope are due to aging plastics and not mixed up switches...
I think the odd one is just discolored & the space bar feels exactly the same as the other switches.
Innards: https://imgur.com/a/ylgixcD
- thefarside
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F107
- Main mouse: Old, boring Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
Looks like blue alps! I have the same discoloration in the stems as you do:
- tactica
- Location: La Coruña, Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: MSI Clutch GM40
- Favorite switch: Buckling springs for now
- DT Pro Member: -
OK, my bad, they're the real thing. I'm sorry your stabilisers broke in the process...
The extra pictures would be useful in the Alps SKCM Blue article.
The extra pictures would be useful in the Alps SKCM Blue article.
- jensma
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Classic IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- Contact:
Feel free to use them =) As I said, I'm stupid when it comes to stuff like this. And no problem about the stabilisers, I just printed new ones.
- tactica
- Location: La Coruña, Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: MSI Clutch GM40
- Favorite switch: Buckling springs for now
- DT Pro Member: -
The keyboard with the unknown yellowish Alps clones is from a MicroOrchid PC3 portable. I have updated the wiki article and emailed MicroOrchid asking for details. Too bad the email link for most subsidiaries is the one and the same as for the original manufacturer in China, so in the end it will be up to them if they decide to share any details.
Edit: the email returned a DKIM failure. @jensma I suggest you try your luck with the German contact address, see here.
Never mind, the site no longer exists. It's strange they're keeping their homepage and pointing people to dead contact links.
Edit: the email returned a DKIM failure. @jensma I suggest you try your luck with the German contact address, see here.
Never mind, the site no longer exists. It's strange they're keeping their homepage and pointing people to dead contact links.
- jensma
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Classic IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- Contact:
Woah, thanks for the investigative work!tactica wrote: ↑10 May 2024, 22:37The keyboard with the unknown yellowish Alps clones is from a MicroOrchid PC3 portable. I have updated the wiki article and emailed MicroOrchid asking for details. Too bad the email link for most subsidiaries is the one and the same as for the original manufacturer in China, so in the end it will be up to them if they decide to share any details.
Edit: the email returned a DKIM failure. @jensma I suggest you try your luck with the German contact address, see here.
Never mind, the site no longer exists. It's strange they're keeping their homepage and pointing people to dead contact links.
Yeah, that German location is no more. There is another IT oriented company at it's place, but I highly doubt that hey know anything about the keyboard.
- jensma
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Classic IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- Contact:
any idea about this switch? just found in an olympia cd 102
- jensma
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Classic IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- Contact:
just disassembled the whole thing, seems to be an alps spring bridge with a rod mount. I'll take some pictures for the wiki later this day
edit: I just realised that the switch is already documented by pictures
edit: I just realised that the switch is already documented by pictures
- jensma
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Classic IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- Contact:
I just added another keyboard to the wiki (wiki/Siemens_AK/U6). It has a strange logo on the pcb, anybody recognizing this? https://i.imgur.com/EnRbeb9.png
- OleVoip
- Location: Hamburg
- Main keyboard: Tandberg TDV-5010
- Main mouse: Wacom Pen & Touch
- Favorite switch: Siemens STB 21
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That's a nice find, thank you for adding it. I've moved it to /wiki/Siemens_97801-132, as AK/U6 is not the model name but the production stamp.
We've already got a successor of it in the wiki, which is rubberdome, though (/wiki/Siemens_Nixdorf_97371-132)
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Something really big ass, origin unknown, I got it here https://t.me/klavaorgwork/570135
Upd. looks like it's wiki/Marquardt_Mini but with a humongous ass set.
Upd. looks like it's wiki/Marquardt_Mini but with a humongous ass set.
- jensma
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Classic IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- Contact:
Thanks a lot! Keyboards by Siemens are pretty easy to find over here. Whenever I see one I grab it for the wiki.OleVoip wrote: ↑10 Jul 2024, 00:39That's a nice find, thank you for adding it. I've moved it to /wiki/Siemens_97801-132, as AK/U6 is not the model name but the production stamp.
We've already got a successor of it in the wiki, which is rubberdome, though (/wiki/Siemens_Nixdorf_97371-132)
- jensma
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Classic IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- Contact:
- TNT
- Location: Germany, Karlsruhe
- Main keyboard: Ellipse Model F77 / Zenith Z-150
- Main mouse: Logitech G203 Prodigy
- Favorite switch: It's complicated
- DT Pro Member: 0250
Probably Nixdorf Magnetic Valve. Maybe check the site of the nixdorf museum
Edit: I also found this: https://www.ebay.at/itm/284236957089
Edit: I also found this: https://www.ebay.at/itm/284236957089
- jensma
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Classic IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- Contact:
Ah yup, seems to be right! Thanks!TNT wrote: ↑20 Jul 2024, 21:24Probably Nixdorf Magnetic Valve. Maybe check the site of the nixdorf museum
Edit: I also found this: https://www.ebay.at/itm/284236957089
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- Location: The Netherlands
Came across an ASCII keyboard without any identification.
The keyboard matrix is made in Japan. The X and Enter are a lighter color, that seems original. The encoder is a KR2376 on a separate PCB below. There is also some sort of conversion PROM after the encoder chip, with 7 bit input and 8 bits output. There is even a clicking relay on that board. The connector is a 2 x 13 pin 3M. IC year markings around 1979 - 1983, the conversion IC is date marked 15-11-84.
Any thoughts? Thanks!
The keyboard matrix is made in Japan. The X and Enter are a lighter color, that seems original. The encoder is a KR2376 on a separate PCB below. There is also some sort of conversion PROM after the encoder chip, with 7 bit input and 8 bits output. There is even a clicking relay on that board. The connector is a 2 x 13 pin 3M. IC year markings around 1979 - 1983, the conversion IC is date marked 15-11-84.
Any thoughts? Thanks!
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- amigastar23
- Main keyboard: Monterey MTek K104
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: White Alps
They look rather like Monterey Alps Switches to me.thefarside wrote: ↑08 May 2024, 14:25Looks like blue alps! I have the same discoloration in the stems as you do:
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- Polecat
- Location: Downstream from Silicon Valley
- Main keyboard: Monterey K104 Industrial Gray
- Main mouse: Logitech Optical
- Favorite switch: Early Alps SKCM
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No, they are genuine blue SKCM Alps, confirmed by the two Imgur photo links.
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: i-Rocks compact
- Main mouse: Logitech Trackman
- Favorite switch: IBM buckling spring
Televideo 995-65, according to the Reddit thread the picture is from. But you probably knew that already.
Interesting variant of the DEC layout. Separate Line Feed and Return keys, 20 function keys, 4 PF keys,
separate Backspace and Delete keys, Control key on middle row (and offset to the left, nice), Compose key to the left of leftAlt, "Lock" is presumably Caps Lock, "Help" and "Do" keys, part of the stupid nav-pad is repurposed for Find, Select, Prev Screen, etc.
All the extra keys get me all excited.
Interesting variant of the DEC layout. Separate Line Feed and Return keys, 20 function keys, 4 PF keys,
separate Backspace and Delete keys, Control key on middle row (and offset to the left, nice), Compose key to the left of leftAlt, "Lock" is presumably Caps Lock, "Help" and "Do" keys, part of the stupid nav-pad is repurposed for Find, Select, Prev Screen, etc.
All the extra keys get me all excited.
- mcmaxmcmc
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Boring Box
- Main mouse: Endgame Gear XM1
- Favorite switch: Hirose Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
Not sure about where the keyboard came from, but it looks like FLS 1st Gen8bitflux wrote: ↑26 Jul 2024, 16:53Came across an ASCII keyboard without any identification.
The keyboard matrix is made in Japan. The X and Enter are a lighter color, that seems original. The encoder is a KR2376 on a separate PCB below. There is also some sort of conversion PROM after the encoder chip, with 7 bit input and 8 bits output. There is even a clicking relay on that board. The connector is a 2 x 13 pin 3M. IC year markings around 1979 - 1983, the conversion IC is date marked 15-11-84.
Any thoughts? Thanks!
- The Keyboard Oracle
- The Answer Lies Within The Question
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