the topre keymount is patented afaikjabar wrote:SP doesn't have Topre tooling. Could be lack of demand considering Topre has no industry presence in the US.hsu wrote:There is a flipside: we will have fucking amazing spherical keycaps!
[Off-topic: why no love for keycaps in Topre world?]
Round 4 / packing (99.8%) / shipping (99.7%)
- sth
- 2 girls 1 cuprubber
- Location: US
- Main keyboard: hhkb1
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there is that too. patents don't last forever though, so I didn't comment on that possibility since that switch style has been around a whilesth wrote:the topre keymount is patented afaikjabar wrote:SP doesn't have Topre tooling. Could be lack of demand considering Topre has no industry presence in the US.hsu wrote:There is a flipside: we will have fucking amazing spherical keycaps!
[Off-topic: why no love for keycaps in Topre world?]
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The way patent laws are twisted don't bet on itjabar wrote:there is that too. patents don't last forever though, so I didn't comment on that possibility since that switch style has been around a whilesth wrote:the topre keymount is patented afaikjabar wrote: SP doesn't have Topre tooling. Could be lack of demand considering Topre has no industry presence in the US.
- blighty
- Location: New York, USA
- Main keyboard: LZ ergo (mx silent red)
- Main mouse: Logitech G Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Silent Red
- DT Pro Member: 0037
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41637.0
R4 hasn't finished yet, but there is an interest check on GH to rerun just the Retro R4 caps, but only as ANSI and TKL. Curious what fellow R4 participants think of this? My only thought was "what a bunch of impatient asshats." As if sets won't start showing up in market/classifed at inflated prices once R4 concludes. Or am I not seeing the bigger picture?
R4 hasn't finished yet, but there is an interest check on GH to rerun just the Retro R4 caps, but only as ANSI and TKL. Curious what fellow R4 participants think of this? My only thought was "what a bunch of impatient asshats." As if sets won't start showing up in market/classifed at inflated prices once R4 concludes. Or am I not seeing the bigger picture?
- blighty
- Location: New York, USA
- Main keyboard: LZ ergo (mx silent red)
- Main mouse: Logitech G Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Silent Red
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The only reason they are on "hold" is they need 7bit's permission to use his legends. The lad trying to rerun it didn't know he needed permission at first. I think the guy's attitude about it is what pisses me off, like he's entitled to it. Or how I perceive GB mentalities in general these days. /rant
- zulios
- Location: France
- Main keyboard: Tipro matrix (mx black) USB
- Main mouse: Kensington slimblade / Microsoft SideWinder X5
- Favorite switch: Ergo clears / MX black
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These GB organizers should remember that the people ordering in R4 paid for legend fees, tooling etc.
Therefore, it would seem fair to me if they could include a small fee to help cover 7bit's money loss.
Therefore, it would seem fair to me if they could include a small fee to help cover 7bit's money loss.
- blighty
- Location: New York, USA
- Main keyboard: LZ ergo (mx silent red)
- Main mouse: Logitech G Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Silent Red
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When did Germans start being so nice? I swear the last time I was in Warszawa (Poland), the locals talked up how you guys were evil pricks!Just go ahead!
Almost everything is sold out, so no problem for me if you start a new group buy.
It must come from having such a sexy Chancellor. She puts my former favorite world leader to shame: Anyway, hopefully R4 pops before their GB gets run (If only to make the 100 or so orders of the RETRO kit feel better)
- aggiejy
- Location: US
- Main keyboard: Filco tenkeyless with browns
- Main mouse: Logitech Performance MX
- Favorite switch: Blues/Browns depending on the day
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I added a couple white on yellow 1.25x mods to my (paid) order. The amount due is 1.62, but the invoice says
"Please order more to make it worth to do another payment!!!!"
Only problem is I'm not sure there's much of anything left that I could use.
"Please order more to make it worth to do another payment!!!!"
Only problem is I'm not sure there's much of anything left that I could use.
- Acanthophis
- Location: Germany
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Payment/"shipping" update
Post-post-Closing/Leftovers/??? payment from bnp70kr (2013-04-02,yy-mm-dd) has been received and marked as shipped for PP (although we all know that we are looking at SP finishing the production mid February 2013 (read: never), then caps being shipped for sorting, then shipped to their final destination, i.e. you). That is to avoid PP account lock ups, that they like to do. Invoices may or may not reflect the change, but they will. Please keep in mind I only account for payments made to me via paypal.
Note: Addresses on the Paypal invoices are not the addresses 7bit uses to ship your keycaps to. He uses whatever address that is listed on your invoice.
Post-post-Closing/Leftovers/??? payment from bnp70kr (2013-04-02,yy-mm-dd) has been received and marked as shipped for PP (although we all know that we are looking at SP finishing the production mid February 2013 (read: never), then caps being shipped for sorting, then shipped to their final destination, i.e. you). That is to avoid PP account lock ups, that they like to do. Invoices may or may not reflect the change, but they will. Please keep in mind I only account for payments made to me via paypal.
Note: Addresses on the Paypal invoices are not the addresses 7bit uses to ship your keycaps to. He uses whatever address that is listed on your invoice.
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why does SP delay this continuously... it's not a huge order for them but they ought to have established a deadline from the get-go instead of a whenever, floating due date.
e: this is more of an observation not a complaint, most have waited longer than I have for R4
e: this is more of an observation not a complaint, most have waited longer than I have for R4
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
Not a huge order? I'm quite sure it is the hugest ever!
It is not so much the quantity of key caps, but the quantity of different size/row/legend/color combinations.
BTW: Rumors say, they already shipped them ...
It is not so much the quantity of key caps, but the quantity of different size/row/legend/color combinations.
BTW: Rumors say, they already shipped them ...
- matt3o
- -[°_°]-
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- Main mouse: Anywhere MX
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are you F)@&@&^K kidding me?!7bit wrote:BTW: Rumors say, they already shipped them ...
this is great!
- matt3o
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I really wish I could grab some of those sphericals...
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
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Sphericals
SPH/SPACEUNI | 38| 1|1 left | $4|7 units (SA-family only!)
SPH/SPACEUNI/BLUE | 17| 1|2 left | $4|7 units (SA-family only!)
SPH/SPACEUNI/VIOLETT | 9| 1|5 left | $4|7 units (SA-family only!)
SPH/LOTUSESC | 33| 1|1 left | $2|Lotus key (1 unit, row 3)
SPH/LOTUS125 | 17| 1|3 left | $2|Lotus key (1.25 units, row 3)
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Round 3
ROUND3/SPACENEW/GREY | 5| 1|9 left | $12|6 units (114;38,57)
ROUND3/FR | 3| 30|4 left | $28|French language kit
ROUND3/PT | 3| 21|1 left | $24|Portuguese language kit
ROUND3/MUSIC/ORANGE | 6| 12|1 left | $24|Music Function kit
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Retro
RETRO/SPACENEW | 6| 1|5 left | $12|6 units (114;38,57)
RETRO/SPACEOLD/RED | 5| 1|2 left | $6|7 units Cherry no Windows
RETRO/ES | 2| 24|1 left | $24|Spanish language kit
RETRO/DVORAK | 2| 25|2 left | $32|Dvorak language kit
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Noir
NOIR/SPACENEW | 9| 1|5 left | $12|6 units (114;38,57)
NOIR/FR | 2| 31|3 left | $16|French language kit
NOIR/UK | 2| 7|1 left | $16|UK language kit
NOIR/DVORAK | 4| 25|1 left | $24|Dvorak language kit
NOIR/PHANTOMESC | 37| 1|1 left | $2|Phantom Escape (1 unit, row 1)
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Blanks (ABS)
BLANK/R1U100/BLACK | 13| 1|1 left | $1.2|Blank 1 unit key (row 1 / Function row)
BLANK/R3U175/BLACK | 5| 1|2 left | $4|Blank 1.75 units (row 3 / ASDFGH row)
BLANK/R4U150/BLACK | 10| 1|1 left | $3|Blank 1.5 units (row 4 / ZXCVBN row)
BLANK/R4U200H/BLACK | 5| 1|2 left | $4|Blank 2 units horizontal (row 4)
BLANK/R3U225/VERYDARKGREY | 1| 1|6 left | $5|Blank 2.25 units (row 3, Return)
BLANK/R4U200H/VERYDARKGREY | 1| 1|6 left | $4|Blank 2 units horizontal (row 4)
BLANK/R4U200V/VERYDARKGREY | 2| 1|5 left | $3|Blank 2 units vertical (row 4)
BLANK/R4U275/VERYDARKGREY | 3| 1|4 left | $5|Blank 2.75 units (row 4, Shift right)
BLANK/SPACEOLD/CLEAR | 4| 1|3 left | $5|7 units Cherry no Windows
BLANK/R3U200V/LIGHTGREY | 6| 1|1 left | $4|Blank 2 units vertical (row 3)
BLANK/R4U225/LIGHTGREY | 3| 1|4 left | $6|Blank 2.25 units (row 4, Shift left)
BLANK/R4U225/VERYDARKGREY | 5| 1|2 left | $3|Blank 2.25 units (row 4, Shift left)
BLANK/R4U275/LIGHTGREY | 5| 1|2 left | $6|Blank 2.75 units (row 4, Shift right)
BLANK/R1U125/BLACK | 4| 1|3 left | $4|Blank 1.25 units (row 1 / Function row)
BLANK/R4U275/CLEAR | 1| 1|6 left | $8|Blank 2.75 units (row 4, Shift right)
BLANK/R1U200H/VERYDARKGREY | 1| 1|6 left | $5|Blank 2 units horizontal (row 1)
BLANK/R3U175/VERYDARKGREY | 1| 1|6 left | $5|Blank 1.75 unit key (row 3 / ASDFGH row)
BLANK/R1U100/LIGHTGREY | 1| 1|3 left | $1.5|Blank 1 unit key (row 1 / QWERTY row)
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Blanks (sphericals)
BLANKSPH/R4U175/SPHBLUE | 6| 1|1 left | $3|Blank 1.75 units (row 4 / ZXCVBN row)
BLANKSPH/R3U175/SPHBLUE | 4| 1|3 left | $3|Blank 1.75 units (row 3 / ASDFGH row)
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Single kits
DIAMONDWY125 | 13| 1|37 left |$0.78|White on Yellow Diamond (row 4)
DIAMONDBY125 | 11| 1|189 left |$0.78|Black on Yellow Diamond (row 4)
DIAMONDBY100 | 13| 1|37 left |$0.65|Black on Yellow Diamond (row 4)