My boss doesn't like mechanical keyboards
- macharius
- Location: Barcelona - Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech G3
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Today I decided to bring my IBM Model M2 but a few minutes later my boss has banned my IBM Model M2 keyboard because of the noise, and he said that I have to use the same keyboard that all people, a rubber-dome 1€ value. I have in the office another ACER 6312-ta but the touch is very very bad for the ACER switch ...
What to do now?
What to do now?
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
It may be his office, but they are your hands. Imagine if he pulled a stunt like that on someone using one of these:
The DataHand may look like something from science fiction (indeed, they used one in Contact) but some people really do need them and other ergonomic keyboards because of RSI.
Objecting to the noise of buckling springs is one thing, but if your boss is truly serious about forcing the same crap keyboards onto everybody, he deserves to come face to face with the expensive issue of injured employees. RSI is not pretty. And with an attitude like that, one day he will be culpable.
Everyone has a right to choose their own keyboard. Honestly, their employers should be paying for it. It's a health thing, plain and simple.
The DataHand may look like something from science fiction (indeed, they used one in Contact) but some people really do need them and other ergonomic keyboards because of RSI.
Objecting to the noise of buckling springs is one thing, but if your boss is truly serious about forcing the same crap keyboards onto everybody, he deserves to come face to face with the expensive issue of injured employees. RSI is not pretty. And with an attitude like that, one day he will be culpable.
Everyone has a right to choose their own keyboard. Honestly, their employers should be paying for it. It's a health thing, plain and simple.
- Halverson
- Location: Ontario, Canada
- Main keyboard: F660c or HHKB
- Main mouse: Steelseries sensei
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
Between all my MX boards, I would say brown or black, depending on how hard you bottom out. O-rings help a lot for noise as well.
The new matias quiet switches are quite nice and quiet as well.
The new matias quiet switches are quite nice and quiet as well.
- macharius
- Location: Barcelona - Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech G3
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Man, have you ever worked in Spain? The workers work without a helmet, taxi drivers drunk driving, honestly in Spain we are years of European countries in occupational health issues.Muirium wrote:It may be his office, but they are your hands. Imagine if he pulled a stunt like that on someone using one of these:
The DataHand may look like something from science fiction (indeed, they used one in Contact) but some people really do need them and other ergonomic keyboards because of RSI.
Objecting to the noise of buckling springs is one thing, but if your boss is truly serious about forcing the same crap keyboards onto everybody, he deserves to come face to face with the expensive issue of injured employees. RSI is not pretty. And with an attitude like that, one day he will be culpable.
Everyone has a right to choose their own keyboard. Honestly, their employers should be paying for it. It's a health thing, plain and simple.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
True. But the law is still the law. Europe wide, too.macharius wrote: Man, have you ever worked in Spain? The workers work without a helmet, taxi drivers drunk driving, honestly in Spain we are years of European countries in occupational health issues.
I've an old friend here in Scotland who does gardening with loud equipment and, as this is for local government, he and his teammates are issued ear protectors. They just never, ever, use them. Don't want to look daft to the other guys. So they are all going deaf.
My friend thinks he can take up suing the authorities for a hobby when he retires. But the appropriate gear was always there for him to use. He chose not to. Bloody idiot.
Now imagine if they were forced to go without instead. Whole different story.
- guilleguillaume
- Location: Barcelona, Spain
- Main keyboard: Kmac Mini
- Main mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
No se como se te ocurre llevarl el IBM al trabajo. Sabías de sobra que hace mucho ruido
I don't know what lead you to think it was a good idea to use the IBM at work. You knew it was loud as hell.
I don't know what lead you to think it was a good idea to use the IBM at work. You knew it was loud as hell.
- macharius
- Location: Barcelona - Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech G3
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
guilleguillaume wrote:No se como se te ocurre llevarl el IBM al trabajo. Sabías de sobra que hace mucho ruido
I don't know what lead you to think it was a good idea to use the IBM at work. You knew it was loud as hell.
I had to try... after fixing the capacitor and clean the keyboard I was excited to take it to work.
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
It is fully OK, to use IBM at work. That's what they are made for!
Also: You never get fired for buying IBM!
So, just carry on and ignore your boss.
Also: You never get fired for buying IBM!
So, just carry on and ignore your boss.
- Halvar
- Location: Baden, DE
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M SSK / Filco MT 2
- Favorite switch: Beam & buckling spring, Monterey, MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: 0051
I also first brought my Model M2 to work because I liked it so much. My coworkers never said anything negative, but it was clear they didn't like the sound. It' really loud, you have to admit that. I then switched to MX browns (without O-rings), which I think was ok with them. Now I'm using dampened Alps (SGI Granite) at work, which are not really any louder than rubberdomes but still feel much better.
I don't actually think that mechanical keyboards help to prevent RSI. Surely not buckling spring keyboards like the M2.
I don't actually think that mechanical keyboards help to prevent RSI. Surely not buckling spring keyboards like the M2.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Neither do I. It was the bit about "use this company issued crap or get outta here!" that got me going.Halvar wrote:I don't actually think that mechanical keyboards help to prevent RSI. Surely not buckling spring keyboards like the M2.
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- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
- DT Pro Member: 0011
I agree that the Model M2 is a little bit too loud for an open-plan workplace. It must be one of the very loudest keyboards available, I think even louder than the Model M.
I have used MX Browns, MX Blacks, MX Clears and Topre at work with no complaints. (only some "Ooh"s and "Aah"s )
However none of them feels close to buckling springs of a Model M2. My favourite switch is the MX Clear -- the tactile point is a bit higher than the buckling spring but the spring is hard. Like it, it does cushion the stroke at the bottom which makes it easier not to bottom out.
I would install O-rings if I used Blue, Brown or Red.
I have used MX Browns, MX Blacks, MX Clears and Topre at work with no complaints. (only some "Ooh"s and "Aah"s )
However none of them feels close to buckling springs of a Model M2. My favourite switch is the MX Clear -- the tactile point is a bit higher than the buckling spring but the spring is hard. Like it, it does cushion the stroke at the bottom which makes it easier not to bottom out.
I would install O-rings if I used Blue, Brown or Red.
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- Location: Belgium, land of Liberty Wafles and Freedom Fries
- Main keyboard: G80-3K with Clears
- Favorite switch: Capacitative BS
- DT Pro Member: 0049
I use MX clears at the office and people haven't complained. It's heavy and tactile enough to keep your hands trained for buckling springs, yet it's not all too loud (it only makes some noise on the return).
- Peter
- Location: Denmark
- Main keyboard: Steelseries 6Gv2/G80-1501HAD
- Main mouse: Mx518
- Favorite switch: Cherry Linear and Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
'It's to loud, it's to noisy' ..
People are such cry-babies nowadays
I'm thinking of trying this stuff on a Model M
A 'ghetto-Silent Touch 8184692' or *7 in my case, because it is true,
they are LOUD by modern standards .
People are such cry-babies nowadays
I'm thinking of trying this stuff on a Model M
Code: Select all
Super Lube®
Silicone Lubricating Grease
they are LOUD by modern standards .
- cookie
- Location: Hamburg, Germany
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
- Main mouse: MX Master
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
I use a board with cherry MX Blues at work and noone complained yet.
Before that I used my QFR with reds and I liked it a lot but I missed the tenkeyless at home for gaming so I swapped them.
A Model M is really loud, I would never use such one or any clicky alps at work, if someone would complain about the noise of the blues I would swap them with a quieter board.
jsut my 2 cent.
Before that I used my QFR with reds and I liked it a lot but I missed the tenkeyless at home for gaming so I swapped them.
A Model M is really loud, I would never use such one or any clicky alps at work, if someone would complain about the noise of the blues I would swap them with a quieter board.
jsut my 2 cent.
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- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0000
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If you bring an M2 to work and are surprised they don't like it, there's something wrong with you and your emphatic capabilities. WTF...
- Compgeke
- Location: Fairfield, California, USA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M 1391401
- Main mouse: Coolermaster Recon
- Favorite switch: IBM Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0040
It might be that after using buckling springs for a while you don't notice the noise, I don't notice the noise anymore after using my Model M for a while.
- phirestarter
- Location: MS City, Portugal
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Ozone Radon
- DT Pro Member: -
Well macharius, my colleagues complained about my fk-2001, until i took a model M to work one day. Now everyone loves the focus...
Must be an "iberical" thing...
Must be an "iberical" thing...
- macharius
- Location: Barcelona - Spain
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Logitech G3
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
My boss is from Portugal LOLphirestarter wrote:Well macharius, my colleagues complained about my fk-2001, until i took a model M to work one day. Now everyone loves the focus...
Must be an "iberical" thing...
- bhtooefr
- Location: Newark, OH, USA
- Main keyboard: TEX Shinobi
- Main mouse: TrackPoint IV
- Favorite switch: IBM Selectric (not a switch, I know)
- DT Pro Member: 0056
- Contact:
Hmm, there's not many options here, for stealth.
The Acer 6312-TA looks like it's a white keyboard, and you need quiet.
How about a Realforce 104? Could blend in nicely.
But, really, bringing in buckling spring is just asking for trouble, unless you know the workplace well, and know you can get away with it. (Myself, I'm doing it, but not with an M2 - with a Unicomp EnduraPro.)
The Acer 6312-TA looks like it's a white keyboard, and you need quiet.
How about a Realforce 104? Could blend in nicely.
But, really, bringing in buckling spring is just asking for trouble, unless you know the workplace well, and know you can get away with it. (Myself, I'm doing it, but not with an M2 - with a Unicomp EnduraPro.)
- phirestarter
- Location: MS City, Portugal
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Ozone Radon
- DT Pro Member: -
That explains it !macharius wrote:My boss is from Portugal LOLphirestarter wrote:Well macharius, my colleagues complained about my fk-2001, until i took a model M to work one day. Now everyone loves the focus...
Must be an "iberical" thing...
I'm enjoying a G80 that i bought cheap, for work use, seems about as quiet as a typical rubberdome.
- Half-Saint
- Location: Slovenia, Europe
- Main keyboard: Raptor Gaming K1
- Main mouse: Logitech G5 Mk.2
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Blue
- DT Pro Member: 0058
I don't notice the noise my SSK makes.. but my co-workers noticed my MX Blue board and whined about it.. after I swapped it for a squishy logitech rubber dome, I noticed how hard some of them (my co-workers) bottom out and it started getting on my nerves I still prefer the clicky sound.
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- Location: Norway
- Favorite switch: Hall Effect
- DT Pro Member: -
Well, you got me looking into the datahand again, so far I have 2 things to say; Thank you, and fuck you!macharius wrote:Man, have you ever worked in Spain? The workers work without a helmet, taxi drivers drunk driving, honestly in Spain we are years of European countries in occupational health issues.Muirium wrote:It may be his office, but they are your hands. Imagine if he pulled a stunt like that on someone using one of these:
The DataHand may look like something from science fiction (indeed, they used one in Contact) but some people really do need them and other ergonomic keyboards because of RSI.
Objecting to the noise of buckling springs is one thing, but if your boss is truly serious about forcing the same crap keyboards onto everybody, he deserves to come face to face with the expensive issue of injured employees. RSI is not pretty. And with an attitude like that, one day he will be culpable.
Everyone has a right to choose their own keyboard. Honestly, their employers should be paying for it. It's a health thing, plain and simple.
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- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- Main mouse: Masamune Shirow
- Favorite switch: Buckling springs
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
HHKB Pro 2 Silent versionmacharius wrote:What to do now?