Seems a complex matrix of options for stems and springs, too. I might grab some MX greens and a yellow, just to try it out.CHERRY 樱桃 茶轴 青轴 绿轴 灰轴 蓝轴 黄轴 黑轴 白轴 透明黑轴，拆机货，原厂货
价格分别是：
透明黑轴8元一个，普通黑轴1元一个，黑轴弹簧0.5员一个
赤茶轴：1.5元一个，焦茶轴2.5元一个，茶轴弹簧1元一个
白轴：2元一个。白轴弹簧1元一个
青轴：1元一个，青轴弹簧0.5元一个
绿轴：20元一个。灰轴：20元一个。蓝轴：5元一个。黄轴：8元一个（台湾产）
No, they are not, but I just like those old IBMs.Muirium wrote:That's cool by me!
After the Space Unsaver incident, I have to ask: are they definitely buckling spring?
Oh, *slaps forehead* of course. I was primed to expect disappointment. Beam spring is fine by me. Very much so.7bit wrote:As far as I know, these are beam spring keyboards.
He has my thanks again.lucky for you I know exactly what those are!
They are both keyboards for an IBM model C terminal. I recently got a model C3 keyboard in "data entry" layout (and therefore missing the extra PF keys on the block on the right) Both are model F (flip plate, or capacitive buckling spring)
If you notice the design is similar to the PC / XT keyboard, though there are some differences. DO not attempt to remove the spacebar without further instruction. note the location of modifiers near spacebar as well as the location of the right shift and enter key.
I can tell you exactly the model and model numbers for these keyboards when I get home and check my user manual (there is a slot in the back for the terminal user manual, luckily mine came with one)
These key boards likely have a solenoid in them that can be set to click on keypresses.
I don't know what a good price is, but I got mine for $35 shipped on the US eBay recently. They are not currently easily convertible to USB or PS2, though I think some kbdbabel code exists for them right now. The connector between the controller and the KB matrix PCB is the same as on the 122 and 104 (unsaver) models, so you could probably swap a 122 controller over to it to make it work.Note: not all keys send upcodes, so it can't detect if they are held down or not (and they are less useful. Almost all keys do have repeat action (according to the manual that came with mine) so this is a "not bad"candidate to convert the protocol)
Note we are currently working on a Teensy based capacitive controller matrix for model F's. There are currently a few working prototypes. I will be building a few soon.
Hope this helps!
Thanks to anyone who helps me out 
Thanks for that it's cleared a lot upMuirium wrote:I know the feeling, Luke.
Exchange rate is correct. Remember to add tax (we pay 19% by going through Germany, which more importantly has cheaper shipping).
SSKs are indeed already claimed and Tinlong's always warned us about them anyway. Very likely none actually in stock.
The other Model Ms are a better bet. The one you linked is the cheapest and (hopefully the site is right in saying) the seller has several of them. I've ordered one too.
The two most expensive Model M industrials have been claimed. I actually have first dibs on the best one but it'll cost £100 plus shipping! So I guess not…
So this was for 15 kg ... not sure if that's still enough atm. We'll know more when we know what's available and what's not.tinlong117 wrote:... So, the package will come to me and all the way to Europe.
I will estimate the package is 15 kg.
Shipping to me, around 30€.
To EUROPE, INT'L PRIORITY PARCEL, take around 2-3weeks.
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DE, €122,50
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The day we get these great beasts singing with custom controllers is one to savour, all right. I'd like to see what people made of my writing with one on my iPad.7bit does have something, as the layout is the same as some (many actually) beam spring keyboards. If you notice, though, the keycaps are cylindrical dyesub PBT of flip plate instead of the thick spherical doubleshot ABS of beam spring. The beam springs also colour the modifiers differently. Fun fact: beam spring keycaps are selectric typewriter compatible!
about the 104 "space unsaver" model F keyboards, you can take a 122 controller to make them work. We are still working on a general model F controller. This is made somewhat easier by the fact that it seems that all model F keyboards seem to use the same pinout to connect the capacitive matrix to the controller.
About terminology: IBM's term for beam spring key boards is "fly plate" their term for capacitive buckling spring keyboards (what we call model F) is "flip plate" and I don't know if they had an official term for the buckling spring over membrane "model M" technology.
Long story short: the "F" in model F stands for "Flip plate". I believe the M is for membrane.
.I think I should do it in this way. This will close on next Tuesday (11 Jun 2013, no matter which time zone are you in). And I will ask the seller probably on 12 Jun or 13 Jun. Then, I will tell what's available and what's not. However, I will give 2 days for people who ordered out of stock goods to change their order or cancel it. After that, I will collect the first payment and order those goods. And the first payment do not include the shipping from me and shipping from your proxy in DE/BE/ES/AUS/AT/CA/US/SU/RU/PL/NZ/WHATEVER. As well as the TAXXX in your country.gulfar wrote:tinlong, when we know what's available and what's not?tinlong117 wrote:DOLCH IS OUT OF STOCK!
should be 4.7bit wrote:OK, I made a decision:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=15164586185 (Dolch ¥488)
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10805167996 (Xerox Alps ¥488)
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10281372718 (IBM ¥328)
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=10281582740 (IBM ¥328)
plus 2 Nikon 90th anniversary neck straps!
Total: (488+488+328*2)/8/0.54 == 378 Cherry MX preorder switches.
