[COMPLETED] Laser Cut Prototyping mini-GB

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matt3o
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09 Sep 2013, 12:55

Muirium wrote:Don't forget stabs. I need most / all of the above, plus those. Thanks for the links, I'll do some picking.
good catch, thanks! post updated.

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matt3o
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09 Sep 2013, 14:55

Does anyone know a source for stabilizers in EU? I can only find them in US.

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Muirium
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09 Sep 2013, 15:05

Have you always sourced them from WASD?

And as for the other components: who are you ordering those from? I'll try to be convenient.

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Broadmonkey
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09 Sep 2013, 15:10

I could be in for some nylon spacers and a full set of stabilizers. I have earlier looked for Costar stabilizers in EU, but couldn't find any, so I think WASD is our best bet.

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matt3o
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09 Sep 2013, 15:15

Muirium wrote:Have you always sourced them from WASD?
yes. Or other keyboards.
Muirium wrote:And as for the other components: who are you ordering those from? I'll try to be convenient.
I'll have to place two orders, one from farnell and one from mouser.
Broadmonkey wrote:I could be in for some nylon spacers and a full set of stabilizers. I have earlier looked for Costar stabilizers in EU, but couldn't find any, so I think WASD is our best bet.
Okay, here's the catch about stabilizers. I have to buy them from WASD and they will probably reach me in 3-4 weeks, meaning that I will receive the plates before the stabs. Unless we can find a source for them in EU I guess it would wiser to buy the stabs individually. Everything else can be found here very fast, so no problem.

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Muirium
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09 Sep 2013, 15:27

For a fairly generous order I just priced up, WASD wants as much for shipping as for stabs:
Grand Total $14.05
Subtotal $7.50
Shipping & Handling (USPS - First-Class International) $6.55
Fortunately it's not exactly fantastically expensive. But I'm half temped to join Matt3o on this as my caps are coming via him in a while too.

I'm starting out from zero available stabs, by the way. I'm after enough stabs for my 60% plus the Round 4 SPH set, as there's no harm in a few spares.

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matt3o
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09 Sep 2013, 15:42

I'll take enough stabs to build a dozen keyboards I think, so I'll have plenty of spares.

PS: steel cuts are ready :)

Zifle

09 Sep 2013, 15:43

matt3o wrote:I'll take enough stabs to build a dozen keyboards I think, so I'll have plenty of spares.

PS: steel cuts are ready :)
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Muirium
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09 Sep 2013, 15:51

Lickety split!

By the way, are you still contemplating your Matias switch WhiteFox project, Matt? Stabs were the limiting factor there because there is no source for new ones, as I recall.

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matt3o
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09 Sep 2013, 15:55

Muirium wrote:By the way, are you still contemplating your Matias switch WhiteFox project, Matt? Stabs were the limiting factor there because there is no source for new ones, as I recall.
I need to find a Focus fk2001 and they seem impossible to source here in EU. I got an SGI granite though that has similar stabs except for the return key. When the HHFox will be finished I'll look back at the whitefox.

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Muirium
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09 Sep 2013, 17:33

Having looked through the list, I really do need a bit of everything (besides standoffs). A mini USB socket, the neat stackable feet you used before, heat shrink cables, a good pack of diodes, stabs and even nuts and bolts. Speaking of which, what bolts did you use for your bolt mod? I have this ahead of me on the 122 key:

http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8 ... t6077.html

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matt3o
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09 Sep 2013, 17:46

Muirium wrote:Speaking of which, what bolts did you use for your bolt mod?
those were simple M2.

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Muirium
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09 Sep 2013, 18:01

I'm a bolt noob, obviously, so bear with me! Were they a certain length, and were they self-tapping? I might be confusing wood and metalwork of course…

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Muirium
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09 Sep 2013, 18:05

ماء wrote:Nice Muri,I like combination colour
What feel on SA than Other Keycap family of your experience?
Well, they do feel different. They're tall so your fingers get more leverage on the switch. It's tricky to describe. Like so many things, you've got to try for yourself.

They remind me of Honeywell Hall Effect caps:
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Some are the originals, some are the SA replicas. More pictures here:
http://deskthority.net/photos-videos-f8 ... ml#p125228

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matt3o
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09 Sep 2013, 18:07

Muirium wrote:I'm a bolt noob, obviously, so bear with me! Were they a certain length, and were they self-tapping? I might be confusing wood and metalwork of course…
My idea is that the Model M must be bolted with screw+nut, in fact that's what I've done. I used 2M screw + 2M bolt and cut the excess. You can use self-tapping screws with no bolt and a dip of threading paste (which is silicone I guess), but it simply doesn't feel good to me. If the plastic is from a very old keyboard it will be very brittle and threading it might be dangerous.

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Muirium
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09 Sep 2013, 19:34

Right. Sounds the best way to go. The keyboard in question is from 1990 so I'll play it safe. Could you add the appropriate nuts and bolts to my order? Cheers.

Reading up on the bolt mod (this is my first) I'm seeing stuff about using conic head bolts for the front row of holes, so the outer case fits. Did you encounter this?

http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/repair_model_m.html

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matt3o
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09 Sep 2013, 19:53

you don't really need to bolt 100% of the plastic rivets. I believe that 50% is more than enough, I rebolted ~70% of them just to be sure and the keyboard is rock solid. The screws/nuts hold the plate very tight and way better than the plastic ones. You can safely skip the whole 1st row. So no need for conic heads.

I'll add some M2 to your order.

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Muirium
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09 Sep 2013, 19:55

Excellent! Nuts and bolts, please.

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Muirium
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10 Sep 2013, 14:44

matt3o wrote: I need to find a Focus fk2001 and they seem impossible to source here in EU.
This any good?
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... ID=EBAY-GB
New, apparently.

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matt3o
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10 Sep 2013, 16:24

Muirium wrote:
matt3o wrote: I need to find a Focus fk2001 and they seem impossible to source here in EU.
This any good?
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... ID=EBAY-GB
New, apparently.
thanks for checking but unfortunately it's not the same board (i'd need the one with 1.5u mods)... actually the stabs maybe are similar. I might try to get it anyway.

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Muirium
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10 Sep 2013, 16:28

Reusing model numbers for different products? Bad, Focus, bad!

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matt3o
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10 Sep 2013, 16:33

this would be it

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Muirium
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10 Sep 2013, 16:36

As you've been searching for quite a while, it could be the time to post a wanted for it. Someone might have one spare.

(This is the bit where Matt3o posts a link to the exact [WANTED] he already posted some months ago, that I've completely forgotten about, yet probably commented on!)

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matt3o
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11 Sep 2013, 15:15

I received a box full of electronics and misc stuff. UBS sockets, cables, wires, screws (cone and pan headed), nuts, grommets, shrinking tubes, standoff.

If you are interested a bag with misc stuff and usb sockets would be €15-20. Without usb €5-10.

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Muirium
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11 Sep 2013, 16:55

I'm in for a bit of everything but the standoffs I think. Even a grommet could be useful for another project.

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matt3o
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12 Sep 2013, 17:55

my body is ready

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Muirium
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12 Sep 2013, 18:05

Pics of everything the cutter sends you, when it arrives!

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matt3o
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12 Sep 2013, 18:10

I hope they'll be ready by next Mon (crossing all fingers)

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matt3o
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13 Sep 2013, 17:26

The keyboards are ready and will be shipped to me probably today.

I should get them this Monday or Tuesday!

Zifle

13 Sep 2013, 19:04

:O!

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