Round 5 and Round 6 kits for sale!

[7bit]

Do any stepped caps have centered stems?

I think there was some attempt about this, but I'm quite sure it was not an SA-family key cap.

[jefferai]

Do any stepped caps have centered stems?

I think there was some attempt about this, but I'm quite sure it was not an SA-family key cap.

Oh bless you for taking me seriously when I was just trolling you.

[vivalarevolución]

I have received emails that instruct me to send payment to two different email addresses. Which email should I send payment to?

[7bit]

I can only see one e-mail address in you last invoice.

Please pay to jefferai, because megnin can't take any more money.

And while we are at it: I need a 3rd one to collect PayPal money!

[tjweir]

Do any stepped caps have centered stems?

I think there was some attempt about this, but I'm quite sure it was not an SA-family key cap.

Oh bless you for taking me seriously when I was just trolling you.

They certainly exist.

http://techkeys.us/collections/keys/pro ... d-capslock
and
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o71 ... e3fd55.jpg

[jefferai]

I think there was some attempt about this, but I'm quite sure it was not an SA-family key cap.

Oh bless you for taking me seriously when I was just trolling you.

They certainly exist.

http://techkeys.us/collections/keys/pro ... d-capslock
and
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o71 ... e3fd55.jpg

Still was trolling...

[7bit]

Can't see the photobucket, but the techkeys site lists only DCS key caps and says error about them, so I expect center-stemmed, stepped CapsLocks are not right!

[tjweir]

I apologize for asking then.

[vivalarevolución]

I can only see one e-mail address in you last invoice.

Please pay to jefferai, because megnin can't take any more money.

And while we are at it: I need a 3rd one to collect PayPal money!

Sorry, I was accounting for all the emails. Will pay shortly.

[7bit]

I got the price quote today.


I've changed some prices (some went up and some went down). The main problem are kits which do not meet the 25 orders per key cap.


I've got to wait for the tooling costs which I will get on Monday to know if I can lower the prices a bit or not.


One good thing: If this would have been the order, the deficite would be only ~$10,000 with a lot of leftover keys to be sold afterwards. With 200 users, it is only a $50 deficite per user.

[lefthandedspatula]

I got the price quote today.


I've changed some prices (some went up and some went down). The main problem are kits which do not meet the 25 orders per key cap.


I've got to wait for the tooling costs which I will get on Monday to know if I can lower the prices a bit or not.

Which kits in particular are suffering? I might try to pick some up.

[7bit]

Anything in red or black and all language, FUNCTION and MODEXTRA stuff.

I've changed these prices:

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old: BLANK/R3U100C/BLACK   |  1|  $2|blank key center nub (black)
new: BLANK/R3U100C/BLACK   |  1|  $3|blank key center nub (black)

old: BLANK/R3U100C/GREY    |  1|  $2|blank key center nub (grey)
new: BLANK/R3U100C/GREY    |  1|  $3|blank key center nub (grey)

old: BLANK/R3U100C/RED     |  1|  $2|blank key center nub (red)
new: BLANK/R3U100C/RED     |  1|  $3|blank key center nub (red)

old: BLANK/R3U100C/WHITE   |  1|  $2|blank key center nub (white)
new: BLANK/R3U100C/WHITE   |  1|  $3|blank key center nub (white)

old: BLANK/R3U100D/BLACK   |  1|  $2|blank key deep dish (black)
new: BLANK/R3U100D/BLACK   |  1|  $3|blank key deep dish (black)

old: BLANK/R3U100D/GREY    |  1|  $2|blank key deep dish (grey)
new: BLANK/R3U100D/GREY    |  1|  $3|blank key deep dish (grey)

old: BLANK/R3U100D/RED     |  1|  $2|blank key deep dish (red)
new: BLANK/R3U100D/RED     |  1|  $3|blank key deep dish (red)

old: BLANK/R3U100D/WHITE   |  1|  $2|blank key deep dish (white)
new: BLANK/R3U100D/WHITE   |  1|  $3|blank key deep dish (white)

old: BLANK/R3U125/BLACK    |  1|  $2|blank key (black)
new: BLANK/R3U125/BLACK    |  1|  $3|blank key (black)

old: BLANK/R3U125/RED      |  1|  $2|blank key (red)
new: BLANK/R3U125/RED      |  1|  $3|blank key (red)

old: BLANK/R3U125/WHITE    |  1|  $2|blank key (white)
new: BLANK/R3U125/WHITE    |  1|  $3|blank key (white)

old: HONEY/APPLE125        |  4|  $3|APPLE kit (1.25 units)
new: HONEY/APPLE125        |  4|  $4|APPLE kit (1.25 units)

old: HONEY/APPLE125/BLACK  |  4|  $3|APPLE kit (1.25 units)
new: HONEY/APPLE125/BLACK  |  4|  $5|APPLE kit (1.25 units)

old: HONEY/APPLE125/RED    |  4|  $3|APPLE kit (1.25 units)
new: HONEY/APPLE125/RED    |  4|  $5|APPLE kit (1.25 units)

old: HONEY/APPLE150/BLACK  |  4|  $5|APPLE black kit (1.5 units)
new: HONEY/APPLE150/BLACK  |  4|  $6|APPLE black kit (1.5 units)

old: HONEY/ASTQUOTE150     |  1|  $1|ast quote (row 2; white)
new: HONEY/ASTQUOTE150     |  1|  $2|ast quote (row 2; white)

old: HONEY/ASTQUOTE150/GREY|  1|  $1|ast quote (row 2; grey)
new: HONEY/ASTQUOTE150/GREY|  1|  $2|ast quote (row 2; grey)

old: HONEY/ASTQUOTE150/RED |  1|  $1|ast quote (row 2; red)
new: HONEY/ASTQUOTE150/RED |  1|  $2|ast quote (row 2; red)

old: HONEY/CURSOR/R24      |  8|  $8|Cursor row 2/4 kit
new: HONEY/CURSOR/R24      |  8|  $7|Cursor row 2/4 kit

old: HONEY/CURSOR/R24/BLACK|  8|  $8|Cursor row 2/4 black kit
new: HONEY/CURSOR/R24/BLACK|  8|  $7|Cursor row 2/4 black kit

old: HONEY/CURSOR/R24/RED  |  8|  $8|Cursor row 2/4 red kit
new: HONEY/CURSOR/R24/RED  |  8|  $7|Cursor row 2/4 red kit

old: HONEY/CURSOR/R3       |  8|  $8|Cursor row 3 kit
new: HONEY/CURSOR/R3       |  8|  $7|Cursor row 3 kit

old: HONEY/CURSOR/R3/BLACK |  8|  $8|Cursor row 3 black kit
new: HONEY/CURSOR/R3/BLACK |  8|  $7|Cursor row 3 black kit

old: HONEY/CURSOR/R3/RED   |  8|  $8|Cursor row 3 red kit
new: HONEY/CURSOR/R3/RED   |  8|  $7|Cursor row 3 red kit

old: HONEY/CURSOR/R34      |  8|  $8|Cursor row 3/4 kit
new: HONEY/CURSOR/R34      |  8|  $7|Cursor row 3/4 kit

old: HONEY/CURSOR/R34/BLACK|  8|  $8|Cursor row 3/4 black kit
new: HONEY/CURSOR/R34/BLACK|  8|  $7|Cursor row 3/4 black kit

old: HONEY/CURSOR/R34/RED  |  8|  $8|Cursor row 3/4 red kit
new: HONEY/CURSOR/R34/RED  |  8|  $7|Cursor row 3/4 red kit

old: HONEY/CURSOR/R4       |  8|  $8|Cursor row 4 kit
new: HONEY/CURSOR/R4       |  8|  $7|Cursor row 4 kit

old: HONEY/CURSOR/R4/BLACK |  8|  $8|Cursor row 4 black kit
new: HONEY/CURSOR/R4/BLACK |  8|  $7|Cursor row 4 black kit

old: HONEY/CURSOR/R4/RED   |  8|  $8|Cursor row 4 red kit
new: HONEY/CURSOR/R4/RED   |  8|  $7|Cursor row 4 red kit

old: HONEY/CURSORBASE      |  9|  $9|Cursor base black kit
new: HONEY/CURSORBASE      |  9|  $8|Cursor base black kit

old: HONEY/CURSORBASE/BLACK|  9|  $9|Cursor base black kit
new: HONEY/CURSORBASE/BLACK|  9|  $8|Cursor base black kit

old: HONEY/CURSORBASE/RED  |  9|  $9|Cursor base black kit
new: HONEY/CURSORBASE/RED  |  9|  $8|Cursor base black kit

old: HONEY/CURSORS         | 21| $18|Cursors kit
new: HONEY/CURSORS         | 21| $15|Cursors kit

old: HONEY/CURSORS/BLACK   | 21| $18|Cursors black kit
new: HONEY/CURSORS/BLACK   | 21| $16|Cursors black kit

old: HONEY/CURSORS/RED     | 21| $18|Cursors red kit
new: HONEY/CURSORS/RED     | 21| $16|Cursors red kit

old: HONEY/CURSYM125/BLACK |  4|  $4|Cursor triangle kit (1.25 units)
new: HONEY/CURSYM125/BLACK |  4|  $5|Cursor triangle kit (1.25 units)

old: HONEY/CURSYM125/RED   |  4|  $4|Cursor triangle kit (1.25 units)
new: HONEY/CURSYM125/RED   |  4|  $5|Cursor triangle kit (1.25 units)

old: HONEY/FUN125/BLACK    |  1|  $1|FUN key kit (1.25 units)
new: HONEY/FUN125/BLACK    |  1|  $2|FUN key kit (1.25 units)

old: HONEY/FUN125/RED      |  1|  $1|FUN key kit (1.25 units)
new: HONEY/FUN125/RED      |  1|  $2|FUN key kit (1.25 units)

old: HONEY/FUNCTION/R1/RED |  8| $12|Function row 1 red kit
new: HONEY/FUNCTION/R1/RED |  8|  $8|Function row 1 red kit

old: HONEY/FUNCTION/R2     | 12| $15|Function row 2 kit
new: HONEY/FUNCTION/R2     | 12| $12|Function row 2 kit

old: HONEY/FUNCTION/R3     | 24| $25|Function row 3 kit
new: HONEY/FUNCTION/R3     | 24| $19|Function row 3 kit

old: HONEY/FUNCTION/R4     | 12| $15|Function row 4 kit
new: HONEY/FUNCTION/R4     | 12| $12|Function row 4 kit

old: HONEY/FUNCTION/RED    | 23| $22|Function and modifier red kit
new: HONEY/FUNCTION/RED    | 23| $23|Function and modifier red kit

old: HONEY/FUNCTION2       | 16| $16|Function facetsesame kit (rows 1-4)
new: HONEY/FUNCTION2       | 16| $12|Function facetsesame kit (rows 1-4)

old: HONEY/FUNCTION7       | 40| $35|Function 7bit kit (row 3)
new: HONEY/FUNCTION7       | 40| $29|Function 7bit kit (row 3)

old: HONEY/FUNMOD/BLACK    | 30| $28|Function and mod. kit in black$MOB
new: HONEY/FUNMOD/BLACK    | 30| $36|Function and mod. kit in black$MOB

old: HONEY/ISO             |  4|  $7|ISO kit in grey
new: HONEY/ISO             |  4|  $9|ISO kit in grey

old: HONEY/ISO/BLACK       |  4|  $7|ISO kit in black
new: HONEY/ISO/BLACK       |  4|  $9|ISO kit in black

old: HONEY/ISO/RED         |  4|  $7|ISO kit in red
new: HONEY/ISO/RED         |  4|  $9|ISO kit in red

old: HONEY/JRET            |  1|  $4|J-Return key (grey)
new: HONEY/JRET            |  1|  $6|J-Return key (grey)

old: HONEY/JRET/BLACK      |  1|  $4|J-Return key (black)
new: HONEY/JRET/BLACK      |  1|  $6|J-Return key (black)

old: HONEY/JRET/RED        |  1|  $4|J-Return key (red)
new: HONEY/JRET/RED        |  1|  $6|J-Return key (red)

old: HONEY/MOD125          | 19| $14|Modifier 1.25 units kit
new: HONEY/MOD125          | 19| $19|Modifier 1.25 units kit

old: HONEY/MOD150          | 12| $14|Modifier 1.5 units kit
new: HONEY/MOD150          | 12| $15|Modifier 1.5 units kit

old: HONEY/MOD150/BLACK    | 12| $14|Modifier 1.5 units black kit
new: HONEY/MOD150/BLACK    | 12| $17|Modifier 1.5 units black kit

old: HONEY/MOD150/RED      | 12| $14|Modifier 1.5 units red kit
new: HONEY/MOD150/RED      | 12| $17|Modifier 1.5 units red kit

old: HONEY/MODEXTRA100     | 22| $16|Modifier Extra 1 unit kit
new: HONEY/MODEXTRA100     | 22| $15|Modifier Extra 1 unit kit

old: HONEY/MODEXTRA150     | 20| $24|Modifier Extra 1.5 units kit
new: HONEY/MODEXTRA150     | 25| $27|Modifier Extra 1.5 units kit

old: HONEY/MODEXTRA175     |  8| $15|Modifier Extra 1.75 units kit
new: HONEY/MODEXTRA175     |  8| $12|Modifier Extra 1.75 units kit

old: HONEY/MODSYM100       |  8|  $8|Modifier 1 unit kit
new: HONEY/MODSYM100       |  8|  $7|Modifier 1 unit kit

old: HONEY/MODSYM150       |  8| $12|Modifier 1.5 units kit
new: HONEY/MODSYM150       |  8| $10|Modifier 1.5 units kit

old: HONEY/MODSYM200POS    |  4|  $9|Modifier 2 units POS keys
new: HONEY/MODSYM200POS    |  4|  $8|Modifier 2 units POS keys

old: HONEY/NUMERIC/BLACK   | 28| $21|Numeric black kit
new: HONEY/NUMERIC/BLACK   | 28| $20|Numeric black kit

old: HONEY/NUMERIC/GREY    | 28| $21|Numeric grey kit
new: HONEY/NUMERIC/GREY    | 28| $19|Numeric grey kit

old: HONEY/NUMERIC/RED     | 28| $21|Numeric red kit
new: HONEY/NUMERIC/RED     | 28| $20|Numeric red kit

old: HONEY/NUMERIC/WHITE   | 28| $21|Numeric white kit
new: HONEY/NUMERIC/WHITE   | 28| $19|Numeric white kit

old: HONEY/NUMPAD          | 24| $16|Numpad white/grey kit$NUM
new: HONEY/NUMPAD          | 24| $19|Numpad white/grey kit$NUM

old: HONEY/NUMPAD/BLACK    | 24| $20|Numpad kit in black$NUB
new: HONEY/NUMPAD/BLACK    | 24| $21|Numpad kit in black$NUB

old: HONEY/NUMPAD/GREY     | 24| $20|Numpad grey kit$NUG
new: HONEY/NUMPAD/GREY     | 24| $21|Numpad grey kit$NUG

old: HONEY/NUMPAD/RED      | 24| $20|Numpad red kit$NUR
new: HONEY/NUMPAD/RED      | 24| $21|Numpad red kit$NUR

old: HONEY/POS             | 32| $65|POS (2 units; row3)
new: HONEY/POS             | 32| $49|POS (2 units; row3)

old: HONEY/RETURN175       |  1|  $3|Return (1.75 units; grey)
new: HONEY/RETURN175       |  1|  $2|Return (1.75 units; grey)

old: HONEY/SHIFT150        |  1|  $2|SHIFT key 1.5 units (row 3)
new: HONEY/SHIFT150        |  1|  $1|SHIFT key 1.5 units (row 3)

old: HONEY/SHIFT150/R4     |  1|  $2|SHIFT key 1.5 units (row 4)
new: HONEY/SHIFT150/R4     |  1|  $1|SHIFT key 1.5 units (row 4)

old: HONEY/SHIFT225        |  1|  $3|SHIFT key 2.25 units (row 3)
new: HONEY/SHIFT225        |  1|  $2|SHIFT key 2.25 units (row 3)

old: HONEY/SHIFT275/BLACK  |  1|  $3|SHIFT key 2.75 units (row 3; black)
new: HONEY/SHIFT275/BLACK  |  1|  $4|SHIFT key 2.75 units (row 3; black)

old: HONEY/SHIFT275/RED    |  1|  $3|SHIFT key 2.75 units (row 3; red)
new: HONEY/SHIFT275/RED    |  1|  $4|SHIFT key 2.75 units (row 3; red)

old: HONEY/SPACE300        |  1|  $3|Space (3 units; white)
new: HONEY/SPACE300        |  1|  $4|Space (3 units; white)

old: HONEY/SPACE300/BLACK  |  1|  $3|Space (3 units; black)
new: HONEY/SPACE300/BLACK  |  1|  $4|Space (3 units; black)

old: HONEY/SPACE300/GREY   |  1|  $3|Space (3 units; grey)
new: HONEY/SPACE300/GREY   |  1|  $4|Space (3 units; grey)

old: HONEY/SPACE300/RED    |  1|  $3|Space (3 units; red)
new: HONEY/SPACE300/RED    |  1|  $4|Space (3 units; red)

old: HONEY/SPACE400        |  1|  $3|Space (4 units; white)
new: HONEY/SPACE400        |  1|  $4|Space (4 units; white)

old: HONEY/SPACE400/BLACK  |  1|  $3|Space (4 units; black)
new: HONEY/SPACE400/BLACK  |  1|  $4|Space (4 units; black)

old: HONEY/SPACE400/GREY   |  1|  $3|Space (4 units; grey)
new: HONEY/SPACE400/GREY   |  1|  $4|Space (4 units; grey)

old: HONEY/SPACE400/RED    |  1|  $3|Space (4 units; red)
new: HONEY/SPACE400/RED    |  1|  $4|Space (4 units; red)

old: HONEY/SPACE450        |  1|  $3|Space (4.5 units; white)
new: HONEY/SPACE450        |  1|  $4|Space (4.5 units; white)

old: HONEY/SPACE450/BLACK  |  1|  $3|Space (4.5 units; black)
new: HONEY/SPACE450/BLACK  |  1|  $4|Space (4.5 units; black)

old: HONEY/SPACE450/GREY   |  1|  $3|Space (4.5 units; grey)
new: HONEY/SPACE450/GREY   |  1|  $4|Space (4.5 units; grey)

old: HONEY/SPACE450/RED    |  1|  $3|Space (4.5 units; red)
new: HONEY/SPACE450/RED    |  1|  $4|Space (4.5 units; red)

old: HONEY/STANDARD/BLANK  |150|$119|Standard blank kit
new: HONEY/STANDARD/BLANK  |150| $99|Standard blank kit

old: HONEY/TENKLESS/BLANK  |115| $85|Tenkeyless blank kit
new: HONEY/TENKLESS/BLANK  |115| $79|Tenkeyless blank kit

old: HONEY/TKL/BLANK       | 93| $69|TKL blank kit
new: HONEY/TKL/BLANK       | 93| $59|TKL blank kit

old: HONEY/VERTBSL150      |  1|  $1|vertical backslash (row 2; white)
new: HONEY/VERTBSL150      |  1|  $2|vertical backslash (row 2; white)

old: HONEY/VERTBSL150/BLACK|  1|  $1|vertical backslash (row 2; black)
new: HONEY/VERTBSL150/BLACK|  1|  $2|vertical backslash (row 2; black)

old: HONEY/VERTBSL150/GREY |  1|  $1|vertical backslash (row 2; grey)
new: HONEY/VERTBSL150/GREY |  1|  $2|vertical backslash (row 2; grey)

old: HONEY/VERTBSL150/RED  |  1|  $1|vertical backslash (row 2; red)
new: HONEY/VERTBSL150/RED  |  1|  $2|vertical backslash (row 2; red)

old: HONEY/WINDOWS125      |  3|  $2|WINDOWS kit (1.25 units)
new: HONEY/WINDOWS125      |  3|  $3|WINDOWS kit (1.25 units)

old: HONEY/WINDOWS125/BLACK|  3|  $2|WINDOWS kit (1.25 units)
new: HONEY/WINDOWS125/BLACK|  3|  $4|WINDOWS kit (1.25 units)

old: HONEY/WINDOWS125/RED  |  3|  $2|WINDOWS kit (1.25 units)
new: HONEY/WINDOWS125/RED  |  3|  $4|WINDOWS kit (1.25 units)

These went down significantly:

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old: HONEY/POS             | 32| $65|POS (2 units; row3)
new: HONEY/POS             | 32| $49|POS (2 units; row3)

old: HONEY/STANDARD/BLANK  |150|$119|Standard blank kit
new: HONEY/STANDARD/BLANK  |150| $99|Standard blank kit

old: HONEY/TKL/BLANK       | 93| $69|TKL blank kit
new: HONEY/TKL/BLANK       | 93| $59|TKL blank kit

[BimboBB]

Anything in red or black and all language, FUNCTION and MODEXTRA stuff.

....all the good stuff.

[7bit]

Just spend ~$50 more everybody on whatever you like and we are good.

[lefthandedspatula]

Just spend ~$50 more everybody on whatever you like and we are good.

Added about $100 in keys.



Now to get some way to turn my Bitcoins into PayPal....

[7bit]

If there are more people like you, maybe someone can collect bitcoin money ...

[matt3o]

Regarding language: Why not just trash all the language kits except HONEY/INTER, HONEY/INTER/RED and HONEY/INTER/BLACK - possibly extending them a bit? I fully realize I would get a lot of keys I have no use for but I would be subsidizing the various different (european) languages which I think is good in it self.

I tried to suggest that a while back and I've been brutalized.

[Ichigo87]

Uncool for French people...

[matt3o]

we are on the same page here Incognito, but most seem not to think like us.

I'm working on a PBT set. Be sure that all languages will be together

[Ichigo87]

I think i support this group buy by ordering a lot (more than 1 000 keycaps). I will do my best to keep supporting it. Like you i really want to see every language represented in this group buy. If this means that i have to buy an extra set for 50 USD, i will try to do it.
And i would love to see more european-friendly group buy like this in the future.

The uncool was only about the "scratching every language kits" because French Azerty cannot be integrated in Inter kit.

[Muirium]

I'm working on a PBT set. Be sure that all languages will be together

Exactly!

A white PBT SA set, by any chance? I'd better make sure my Round 5 order covers all my crazy bases, so I can match it with your alphas.

[matt3o]

I'm working on a PBT set. Be sure that all languages will be together

Exactly!

A white PBT SA set, by any chance? I'd better make sure my Round 5 order covers all my crazy bases, so I can match it with your alphas.

DSA prolly, to have all keys on the same row.

[Muirium]

I was one of the few guys in favour of an all row 3 red alpha set in this GB. I would gladly take an all row 3 SA white PBT alpha set, since I've got all the mods to go with them already. I'm fairly sure SP has the single mold needed to make all that! But the dye sub equipment is still an issue, right?

[pasph]

Regarding language: Why not just trash all the language kits except HONEY/INTER, HONEY/INTER/RED and HONEY/INTER/BLACK - possibly extending them a bit? I fully realize I would get a lot of keys I have no use for but I would be subsidizing the various different (european) languages which I think is good in it self.

I'm ok with this, i just need the time to decide what set i need to rollback from my order.

[7bit]

The prices I give on each kit are about what I got in the per keysize/color price quote with fixed costs like shipping and tooling added.

Things are not really bad. An FR kit is listed at $21 with only 9 orders. My automatic price calculation tells me $17.68 for it.
HONEY/BEPOALPHA is listed at $45 with only 4 orders, while in fact it would be $35.25 .

If there where no new tools (new legends and new row 1 2 units molding form) and no shipping and no import tax, an FR kit would cost $11.07 and a BEPO $22.59 . These are the raw key cap costs.

Long talk short: As long as the fixed costs are covered, some kits could have much lower prices while still contributing to pay for the fixed costs.

Here some calculation:
25x FR costs 11.07*25=$276.75 (25 is the qty to get those prices)
$276.75/9=$30.75 but I only take $21, so it would require 13 orders (4 more) to cover the production costs of all 25 FR kits.

25x BEPO costs $22.59*25=$564.75, so it would require 12.5 BEPO orders (8.5 more) to cover the costs.

I really don't want to take away all those little kits or push up their prices, so it would be great if some people order a little more to reduce the pain these low quatities cause.


Maybe, I could give a volume rebate, like:

HONEY/FR2 for $36
HONEY/FR3 for $49
HONEY/FR4 for $59

HONEY/BEPO2 for $79
HONEY/BEPO3 for $99
HONEY/BEPO4 for $109


ps: Thanks to the 9 HONEY/IT orders, there is no problem for Italian layout (one order mossing, but it shares some keys with the other kits, so no trouble). Same for DK and NO as they share quite a lot with SE and DE, which again are very similar and come to 20 orders in total.

[matt3o]

But the dye sub equipment is still an issue, right?

crossing fingers... I'll talk to SP next year.

and just to threadcrap a bit more... I heard new PBT sets from imsto are coming (spacebar included)

[7bit]

PBT looks cheap!*
PBT looks dirty!**

*) Because the legends are fuzzy!
**) Because they keep their roughness, they collect dirt, contrary to self-cleaning ABS double shots!

Great so language-wise we are all set - or most likely will be - as I interpret your post.

What about FUNCTION then - that was in a spot of trouble as well ... ?

Except for BEPO and FR. language kits are no trouble.

I will get through the list of these and let you know my thoughts and ideas about them ...

[Belfong]

I'm not sure about self cleaning part but for sure ABS gets shiny! Which is not a good thing.

[7bit]

Exactly this is what I mean with self-cleaning!

I like the polished sphericals. They don't look wrong to me.

[jdcarpe]

If you don't like shiny ABS, you're doing it wrong.