IC/Discussion on beige set

[matt3o]

Source Pro is a pretty good one too. And I am rather attached to hokey old Monaco. But keep these off our keyboards, please!!!

of course (even though if SP let me, I would love one set with a fixed width font, just for me )

[Muirium]

Aaargh! You had to introduce my mind to the idea of bespoke individual key sets with our own choice of fonts! Sound the alarm.

[jdeblese]

Now to introduce it to the mind of SP

[Eszett]

Experience says, that fancy fonts may look ugly in smaller font sizes. Let’s stick to Caviar Dreams as example:

Some fonts look nice on screen, but ugly when printed. Gotham Rounded however shines especially when printed, because of its even proportions, high legibility and rounded ends. Good choice, matteo!

[drrtyrokka]

Yea I also think it is not as compatible with the people's taste as matt3o's gotham rounded. But was nice to look at, really like the 20's style
A keyboard with lower case letters would be awesome too, but I think it's really hard to get it look good because of the differences between letter widths and heights.
(I really like DejaVu Sans and SourceCode Pro for coding, they look so well designed!)

Gotham is a good choice, no doubt!

[matt3o]

I fixed the @

before and after

[Muirium]

I see what you did — thickened the tail to match the centre — but I don't know how you did it. Inkscape? Well done, that's for sure!

[matt3o]

I see what you did — thickened the tail to match the centre — but I don't know how you did it. Inkscape? Well done, that's for sure!

Thanks.

yes, inkscape. Also the "a" is slightly smaller so when reduced it doesn't get mangled with the circle.

[Muirium]

Subtle! I was simply wowed by how you managed to keep the taper in the tail just right.

You'll be designing your own fonts someday…

[matt3o]

More updates. Notably the break/pause icon. As always... feedback welcome.

[imbattable]

Yay, a comma in the numpad

Is the single legend comma "dot-part" centered on the cap, so it looks like a dot with a protruding tail or are both characters centered with their respective centers on the cap?

[matt3o]

Yay, a comma in the numpad

Is the single legend comma "dot-part" centered on the cap, so it looks like a dot with a protruding tail or are both characters centered with their respective centers on the cap?

It's centered to the keycap and then slid down a pinch.

[Muirium]

Looking good to me. Although the PGDN debate may well continue.

How are the mono legend sets? My next axe to grind is that period key in exile. What about people doing full size keyboards with a mono legend theme?

[imbattable]

Buy two numpads?

[matt3o]

Looking good to me. Although the PGDN debate may well continue.

How are the mono legend sets? My next axe to grind is that period key in exile. What about people doing full size keyboards with a mono legend theme?

yes, that might be a problem. But if you are going mono-legend you also need the numbers, so you have to buy 2 numpads anyway.

[Muirium]

Depends which kind of mono legend. I'd go for !@# along row 1 instead of 123…

[imbattable]

You could have my dot for the cost of shipping

[Muirium]

Shh! I'm trying to persuade him!

[imbattable]

ok, I'll be reeeeeeaaaaaly quiet

[Muirium]

That's much better. Thanks! Hopefully this will work…

[matt3o]

So you'd like to have , and . in the monolegend if I get it right

[Muirium]

Yes! (As well as in the numpad, not to screw around with those guys.) Does it upset the numbers?

[matt3o]

Yes! (As well as in the numpad, not to screw around with those guys.) Does it upset the numbers?

I don't know... mmmh

[Kurk]

It's me, nagging about the tilde / grave again. It seems that the line thickness is greater than on other legends. Only my imagination?

[matt3o]

the grave is very hard to reduce in thickness, reducing the thickness makes the symbol actually smaller, so you have to find a sweet spot. The tilde is very close to alpha thickness. I think I will outline all nums/symbols just a bit to reach the same alpha thickness (or at least very close to it)

[Muirium]

It's me, nagging about the tilde / grave again. It seems that the line thickness is greater than on other legends. Only my imagination?

the grave is very hard to reduce in thickness, reducing the thickness makes the symbol actually smaller, so you have to find a sweet spot. The tilde is very close to alpha thickness. I think I will outline all nums/symbols just a bit to reach the same alpha thickness (or at least very close to it)

It looks fine to me. But these things are highly subjective. What does the alternative look like? Pictures are worth more here than words.

[matt3o]

This might be close to final



line width seems pretty coherent all over the board

[matt3o]

More keys...

[fifted]

The shift keys would benefit from the "FT" glyph/ligature; I know this was an issue for doubleshot keys since SP doesn't have the molding, but we should be able to get it on our dye subs.

Edit: also, Super keys' reduced font size is a little unfortunate.

[Muirium]

The shift keys would benefit from the "FT" glyph/ligature; I know this was an issue for doubleshot keys since SP doesn't have the molding, but we should be able to get it on our dye subs.

Great idea. Gotham's surely chock full of ligatures, let me look…

Edit: also, Super keys' reduced font size is a little unfortunate.

Well, it's better than SUPR. And shrinking them all for the benefit of a single legend in 1u is quite a sacrifice I think.

Edit: Oh well, I can't find any ligatures in Gotham Rounded at all. And unlike its dynamic sibling Hoefler Text, they don't mention them in its features either, so I guess not.

http://www.typography.com/fonts/gotham- ... /features/