KB Paradise V60 Mini

[matt3o]

dual back-lit 60% keyboard NOT compatible with Poker case. Caps are ABS and pretty thin, but the selection of switches is very good: blue, green, red, black, brown, white, clear. It seems a version with Matias Alps switches will be available later.







Backlight demo

Layers






Unboxing
http://imgur.com/a/yMWqX#0

[Muirium]

Looks like you can't configure Command (GUI key) immediately on both sides of the space bar. That would drive me barking at the ceiling in 30 seconds or less…

Well, then I'd use this.

[matt3o]

FN in lieu of caps lock is good enough for me.

[Muirium]

Nuts. The function layer looks all wrong as well. The only non-programmable 60% I could ever bear is the HHKB, just because it gets it right in the first place!

[matt3o]

I give you that pgup/dn are impossible to find.

[Muirium]

I've tried WASD and ESDF arrow keys before (still got the latter as a left handed backup) but the HHKB arrow key diamond is so far ahead there's no comparison. It needs a short right shift to really fly, mind, but that's what I expect of every 60%, and a 1.5u Backspace where it ought to be instead of wasting two keys at the top!

[matt3o]

I use the FN to much to be comfortable on the little finger. ESDF quite works if FN is on the left. I should get one of these soon, I'll see how it works.

[Hypersphere]

I've tried WASD and ESDF arrow keys before (still got the latter as a left handed backup) but the HHKB arrow key diamond is so far ahead there's no comparison. It needs a short right shift to really fly, mind, but that's what I expect of every 60%, and a 1.5u Backspace where it ought to be instead of wasting two keys at the top!

Agreed. Although the present model is not my cup of tea, I look forward to seeing the Matias-switch versions. It is good to see a vendor in addition to Matias using the Matias-tactile/click and Matias silent switches.

[bazh]

Look at the back side of the pcb, I think it will fit in a Poker case, but it will also need some modding on the plate to do so

[matt3o]

the screw position seems right to be honest, but the dip switch is too big

[vivalarevolución]

Saw this before and following them on Facebook. Will it be programmable? If a 60% is not programmable out of the box, I figure that it is not worth the trouble. I know there are various solutions to make it programmable, but if I pay for a finished 60%, I want it programmable.

[Muirium]

Non-programmable USB keyboards are worse news than PS/2 ones, because they don't work with Soarer's Converter. You're stuck without going for software. More bother than its worth for me.

[matt3o]

the controller is reprogrammable. I hardly believe they would release the firmware source though...

[Muirium]

To be persnickety: whenever I say programmable, I mean "end user programmable" without hacking around. Theoretical programmability is about as useful as theoretical keys…

[matt3o]

that never stopped us. if the controller is programmable via USB there's always hope for a reverse engineered firmware. you just need time and dedication.

[QWERTim]

I believe someone said on Reddit that they are compatible with Poker 2 cases, however some of the screws do not align and part of the DIP switches are covered.

[JBert]

Does it send PS/2 keycodes if you connect it through a passive PS/2 adapter?

[QWERTim]

For your perusal!

http://www.qwerkeys.co.uk/downloads/V60 ... %201.0.pdf
http://www.qwerkeys.co.uk/downloads/V60 ... ersion.pdf

[SL89]

I haven't ever been exited for a 60% board until i saw everything about the V60. I keep seeing conflicting reports regarding its availability with MX White AND MX Clear. Will this be compatible with most 'Poker' style cases?

[QWERTim]

I haven't ever been exited for a 60% board until i saw everything about the V60. I keep seeing conflicting reports regarding its availability with MX White AND MX Clear. Will this be compatible with most 'Poker' style cases?

Will be available in both! And it will fit in Poker cases, just some screws will not align fully and 2 of the 6 DIP switches are covered. We'll be stocking Green and Clear.

[SL89]

I haven't ever been exited for a 60% board until i saw everything about the V60. I keep seeing conflicting reports regarding its availability with MX White AND MX Clear. Will this be compatible with most 'Poker' style cases?

Will be available in both! And it will fit in Poker cases, just some screws will not align fully and 2 of the 6 DIP switches are covered. We'll be stocking Green and Clear.

Good to hear, thanks for clarifying!

[maxrunner]

Who sells this?

[matt3o]

will be available at the end of july methinks

[Grond]

Dual backlit = manual christmas tree mode included.

[Daniel Beardsmore]

Hm, I've just realised that you can't hit Pg Up and Pg Dn with the V60 single-handed.

It's also got a menu key and Fn+/ as menu, which is silly. That would be a nice place to have Pg Dn :(

[matt3o]

yeah they always get the FN layer wrong.

[vivalarevolución]

yeah they always get the FN layer wrong.

If most of the important FN functions cannot be completed with one hand, the 60% keyboard layout is a failure in my view.

[DerpyDash_xAD]

Solution to all fn problems: fn lock.

[Muirium]

So you can do a dance to enter the layer, then select the key? That's fine for less used stuff, like an embedded numpad, but for crucial navigation keys it's plain crazy.

[DerpyDash_xAD]

So you can do a dance to enter the layer, then select the key? That's fine for less used stuff, like an embedded numpad, but for crucial navigation keys it's plain crazy.

you should have both. I want a kb with a space splint into 3 - two 2,5 u keys, space and fn, and a 1u fn lck in the middle.

I belive in external numpads tho