qHack Development

DanielT · 16 Jan 2015, 04:08

I would like to test a 60%

Have a teensy have some switches diodes

webwit · 16 Jan 2015, 04:15

7bit wrote: ↑The latest version:

Yes, yes!

But where's S3:1?

gogusrl · 16 Jan 2015, 08:38

I'm very interested as well.

matt3o · 16 Jan 2015, 08:57

send me one and I'll compile you the firmware

please add poker case compatible screw holes!

tlt · 16 Jan 2015, 09:58

I'm also interested in putting together a prototype. It's not going to fit a poker case with those mouse buttons is it?

7bit · 16 Jan 2015, 10:40

webwit wrote: ↑...

But where's S3:1?

Shit!

I hoped nobody would ever discover the dark secret of this keyboard!

matt3o wrote: ↑send me one and I'll compile you the firmware
please add poker case compatible screw holes!

tlt wrote: ↑I'm also interested in putting together a prototype. It's not going to fit a poker case with those mouse buttons is it?

What is a Poker case

This keyboard indeed is not designed to replace any PCB in any existing case.

7bit · 16 Jan 2015, 10:48

The bot has decided:
scottc
Muirium
DanielT
matt3o
and suka, because he must design a case for it!

scottc · 16 Jan 2015, 11:06

Excellent. Thank you 7bit.

The Poker form-factor case idea is a good one. There are lots of very nice after-market Poker cases. I think I remember matt3o having the measurements in a thread from the past few months but I can't find it...

matt3o · 16 Jan 2015, 11:37

7bit wrote: ↑This keyboard indeed is not designed to replace any PCB in any existing case.

completely forgot about the bottom row of switches!

7bit · 16 Jan 2015, 12:29

Little correction:

: qHACK_PCB_002_front.png (1.37 MiB) Viewed 4690 times

: qHACK_PCB_002_back.png (1.23 MiB) Viewed 4690 times

The mouse buttons are now as close to the switches as on the HyperMicro.

matt3o · 16 Jan 2015, 12:49

what is the exact width/height of the board and what switch spacing did you use (19mm)?

MrMen · 16 Jan 2015, 13:23

This 60% looks great ! I hope the bot will have testing one in stock soon.

7bit · 16 Jan 2015, 13:43

switch spacing: 1 unit = 0.75" = 19.05mm
dimensions:
5.35 units tall and 15 units wide, shifted by 0.3 units from bottom, ie 0.3 units gap to bottom edge and 0.05 units to top edge, 0 units to left and right edges.
4.0125" x 11.25" = 101.9175mm x 285.75mm

tlt · 16 Jan 2015, 13:47

So it's like a 61% board?

matt3o · 16 Jan 2015, 14:40

7bit wrote: ↑switch spacing: 1 unit = 0.75" = 19.05mm
dimensions:
5.35 units tall and 15 units wide, shifted by 0.3 units from bottom, ie 0.3 units gap to bottom edge and 0.05 units to top edge, 0 units to left and right edges.
4.0125" x 11.25" = 101.9175mm x 285.75mm

darn imperial system lover!

7bit · 16 Jan 2015, 14:48

Well, the definition (according to Cherry) of 1 unit is precisely 0.75" and 19.05 mm, so I have no other choice.

matt3o · 16 Jan 2015, 16:05

they have 2 specs: EU and US. For the US one they picked the closest value to 19mm which is 0.75". In fact in the EU specs the switch hole is exactly 14mm.

7bit · 16 Jan 2015, 16:14

Plate cut-outs are indeed 14mm but switches are 19.05mm apart!

There are not 2 specifications!

matt3o · 16 Jan 2015, 16:17

7bit wrote: ↑Plate cut-outs are indeed 14mm but switches are 19.05mm apart!

There are not 2 specifications!

don't make me search in the backups!

7bit · 16 Jan 2015, 16:26

There is a file Keymodule_MX.pdf that shows all information I needed to make the PCBs, including 1 units == 19.05mm!

matt3o · 16 Jan 2015, 16:33

that seems a rather old document. Anyway, it works for me!

I have two documents which are pretty close to that one, one entirely in inches the other in mm.

Muirium · 16 Jan 2015, 16:42

No chance of this fitting in Poker cases, like Pexon's cast metal ones, I assume? The extra PCB area for the buttons doesn't look forgiving.

7bit · 16 Jan 2015, 16:46

No, because of the mouse buttons.

It is from March 1994.

What do you mean "old"?

lowpoly · 16 Jan 2015, 16:50

Re Mousewheels: I just opened a cheap Dell mouse that had an optical wheel. Very fine spokes. Model number is M-UAN DEL1.

Dell creates detents by letting a spring wire reach into the spokes. Krrrk krrrk krrrrk. When you remove it the wheel runs smoothly but stops almost immediately due to low weight. Maybe put it in a lathe, reduce the diameter and press it into a metal ring.

Read Findecanor's comment (first post on page 2).

scottc · 16 Jan 2015, 17:06

I have several of those mice and I really quite like the scroll wheels on them. Very nice.

webwit · 16 Jan 2015, 17:10

Lowpoly's has those nice vertical mousebuttons which take no extra space...

gogusrl · 16 Jan 2015, 17:14

I want to use a Logitech G9(x) scroll wheel or even better one from a Microsoft Office Keyboard which I guess won't work with qHack.

7bit · 16 Jan 2015, 17:33

^^^ Microsoft products are always ugly, no matter if software, or keyboards!

^^^ The reason why the qHack must be a little bit larger is because there are regular switches in the way of these 2 mouse buttons!

edit:
Wait!

What about mounting the mouse buttons at the underside?

DanielT · 16 Jan 2015, 17:45

What about no such thing as mouse buttons ? I hate these kind of things ....

7bit · 16 Jan 2015, 17:47

Hint: This is the original qHack design, that webwit asked to be made.

As you can see, there are 3 mouse buttons that are below the bottom row.