never seen anything like it, very interesting! Both look heavy.
Great/Interesting Finds
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
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- beltet
- Location: Stockholm Sweden
- Main keyboard: Custom NerD60
- Main mouse: Saitek cyborg R.A.T 7
- Favorite switch: Ergo MX Clear
- DT Pro Member: -
Thats an ABC computer and a ABC keyboard. Specifically ABC 800 and ABC 77. Not that uncommon in Sweden. But I have never owned one my self. See if I can afford these two. I'm quite interested in those and have a look at them.seebart wrote: ↑never seen anything like it, very interesting! Both look heavy.
Source:
http://pc-museum.com/luxor/index.htm
- Daniel Beardsmore
- Location: Hertfordshire, England
- Main keyboard: Filco Majestouch 1 (home)/Poker II backlit (work)
- Main mouse: MS IMO 1.1
- Favorite switch: Probably not whatever I wrote here
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/BELLA-Ge ... 71859.html
For anyone who wants to explore Omron switches: switches combined with a confirmed part number, B3G-S100N (one of the known part numbers in the B3G-S series).
For anyone who wants to explore Omron switches: switches combined with a confirmed part number, B3G-S100N (one of the known part numbers in the B3G-S series).
- Hypersphere
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Silenced & Lubed HHKB (Black)
- Main mouse: Logitech G403
- Favorite switch: Topre 45/55g Silenced; Various Alps; IBM Model F
- DT Pro Member: 0038
F77 for a mere $1999.99. Oh, and $24.85 shipping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321650836414?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321650836414?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
- Contact:
well he is more likely going to get his prices there than here...
- idollar
- i$
- Location: Germany (Frankfurt area)
- Main keyboard: IBM F or M
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: -
The good news is that now we know that the 4704 have the third type of flipper. (reference here)
The bad one is that if this keyboard sells at this price, it means that this planet is too crazy for me. I will need to go to a different one !
The bad one is that if this keyboard sells at this price, it means that this planet is too crazy for me. I will need to go to a different one !
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- Main keyboard: 6110668
- DT Pro Member: -
No 50% sale for the likes of you.7bit wrote: ↑Ellipse asked snoopy's post to be deleted. This was my answer!
here is how to do it:
IBM F-77 for sale!*
1999,- EUR 50% Sale 50% Sale 50% Sale 50% Sale 50% Sale 50% Sale
Now only 999,- EUR! You save 1000 EUR!!!!
50% Sale 50% Sale 50% Sale 50% Sale 50% Sale 50% Sale 50% Sale
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*) Only slightly broken, can be ordered with replacement controller**
**) Only 9.95 EUR per month***
***) After 12 months: 39.95 EUR per month
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- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Brand New Model F Keyboards
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Personally this F77 of mine and my F107 keyboards have had two types of flippers - one with kind of a 1 mm "bump" on the side of the flipper that touches the PCB, and one without the bump that often appears to be of a shinier type plastic. A majority of the older Model F's have those with the bump. Though most of my PC AT's have flippers without the bump.
Not sure if the type of flipper makes much of a difference in the sound. I think the weight of the materials making up the inner assembly, the condition of the foam, and the date of manufacture (earlier=pingier for the most part IME) have more to do with the sound of the keyboard.
seebart - I think you're right. Most of the guys buying from my IBM collection are DT/GH members who seem to do a good deal of buying on eBay based on what I know, so they know and appreciate the "real" prices of what things sell for in a free market And yes dzhoou, I always give DH and DT members discounts for outside of eBay transactions. Though 50% like you're saying there is a bit much!
Not sure if the type of flipper makes much of a difference in the sound. I think the weight of the materials making up the inner assembly, the condition of the foam, and the date of manufacture (earlier=pingier for the most part IME) have more to do with the sound of the keyboard.
seebart - I think you're right. Most of the guys buying from my IBM collection are DT/GH members who seem to do a good deal of buying on eBay based on what I know, so they know and appreciate the "real" prices of what things sell for in a free market And yes dzhoou, I always give DH and DT members discounts for outside of eBay transactions. Though 50% like you're saying there is a bit much!
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
- Contact:
yes posibly you are right Ellipse! Much more interesting to me is that you are providing IBM keyboard insights, which you yourself recently said yours were too limited to contribute here! Not at all the case!
- Hypersphere
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Silenced & Lubed HHKB (Black)
- Main mouse: Logitech G403
- Favorite switch: Topre 45/55g Silenced; Various Alps; IBM Model F
- DT Pro Member: 0038
@Ellipse: Sorry you got badly flamed recently on GH. I chalk it up several things, including a lack of maturity, jealousy, and a naive sense of altruism that stems in part from a fundamental lack of understanding or appreciation for something approaching a free-market economy. In addition, it seems that some people's sense of ethics fails to take into account a person's right to do as he wishes with his property, as long as it does not harm or unduly hinder others. Whereas you can expect some good-natured tongue-in-cheek comments on your high-profile sales, you don't deserve the bitter ad hominem attacks that some have launched against you.
Good luck with your sales, and thanks for contributing to the preservation of some of the world's greatest vintage keyboards. We can surely expect that anyone who could pay such premiums would keep these prizes from falling into the hands of the recyclers who would crush them into rubble for the landfill.
Good luck with your sales, and thanks for contributing to the preservation of some of the world's greatest vintage keyboards. We can surely expect that anyone who could pay such premiums would keep these prizes from falling into the hands of the recyclers who would crush them into rubble for the landfill.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0000
- Contact:
"I chalk it up several things, including a lack of maturity, jealousy, and a naive sense of altruism that stems in part from a fundamental lack of understanding or appreciation for something approaching a free-market economy."
Ironically you're countering a perceived ad hominem attack, with an ad hominem attack. Technically, this would make you susceptible to your own comments.
Ironically you're countering a perceived ad hominem attack, with an ad hominem attack. Technically, this would make you susceptible to your own comments.
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- Main keyboard: 6110668
- DT Pro Member: -
And which specific comments led you to that conclusion, mind if I ask?Hypersphere wrote: ↑@Ellipse: Sorry you got badly flamed recently on GH. I chalk it up several things, including a lack of maturity, jealousy, and a naive sense of altruism that stems in part from a fundamental lack of understanding or appreciation for something approaching a free-market economy.
So far I'm only seeing satirical comments on his sales pitch and pricing from a lot of DT members. That leads us to another question. Why only our friend Ellipse? Why not some other seller like elec or orihalcon? Because they are either sans the pitch, or the high pricing, or both.
If you think a free-market economy cannot contain a little satire for a high-profile, shrewd seller, then you're the one who's having issues.
- guk
- 1896 Vintage Reds
- Location: Hannover, Germany
- Main keyboard: SSK,Novatouch
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: -
http://www.ebay.de/itm/271751287724 Bondwell B200, supposedly MX Blues. 2hrs left.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/271748649363 Toshibar T5100 Alps DS
http://www.ebay.de/itm/361198364046 Compaq 11800 potentially cheap MX Browns
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Data911-RoboVu- ... 0936348764
red backlit MX Black board. Not bad if you're located in the US I guess.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321650714366 Lexmark made and branded SSK
http://www.ebay.de/itm/301504413453 No clue, oracle hasn't replied yet. But I like its looks.
www.ebay.de/itm/281576308551 No idea either.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/271748649363 Toshibar T5100 Alps DS
http://www.ebay.de/itm/361198364046 Compaq 11800 potentially cheap MX Browns
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Data911-RoboVu- ... 0936348764
red backlit MX Black board. Not bad if you're located in the US I guess.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321650714366 Lexmark made and branded SSK
http://www.ebay.de/itm/301504413453 No clue, oracle hasn't replied yet. But I like its looks.
www.ebay.de/itm/281576308551 No idea either.
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- ramnes
- ПБТ НАВСЕГДА
- Location: France
- Main keyboard: KMAC LE
- Main mouse: Zowie AM
- Favorite switch: GPL 104 lubed 62g nixies
- DT Pro Member: -
Vintage blues... Tempting...guk wrote: ↑http://www.ebay.de/itm/271751287724 Bondwell B200, supposedly MX Blues. 2hrs left.
- snoopy
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: IBM SSK '93
- Main mouse: Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: 0022
very very dirty square label Model M
http://kleinanzeigen.ebay.de/anzeigen/s ... ref=search
http://kleinanzeigen.ebay.de/anzeigen/s ... ref=search
- guk
- 1896 Vintage Reds
- Location: Hannover, Germany
- Main keyboard: SSK,Novatouch
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: -
There are already two DT members after that one, it's in the german section.snoopy wrote: ↑very very dirty square label Model M
http://kleinanzeigen.ebay.de/anzeigen/s ... ref=search
- ramnes
- ПБТ НАВСЕГДА
- Location: France
- Main keyboard: KMAC LE
- Main mouse: Zowie AM
- Favorite switch: GPL 104 lubed 62g nixies
- DT Pro Member: -
For those who like G84:
http://www.ebay.es/itm/Cherry-G84-4100- ... 1c4d32437c
http://www.ebay.es/itm/Cherry-G84-4100- ... 1c4d32437c
- ramnes
- ПБТ НАВСЕГДА
- Location: France
- Main keyboard: KMAC LE
- Main mouse: Zowie AM
- Favorite switch: GPL 104 lubed 62g nixies
- DT Pro Member: -
No one took it?ramnes wrote: ↑Vintage blues... Tempting...guk wrote: ↑http://www.ebay.de/itm/271751287724 Bondwell B200, supposedly MX Blues. 2hrs left.
- ramnes
- ПБТ НАВСЕГДА
- Location: France
- Main keyboard: KMAC LE
- Main mouse: Zowie AM
- Favorite switch: GPL 104 lubed 62g nixies
- DT Pro Member: -
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
- Contact:
that works both ways dzhoou. The seller should also be able to take criticism of his sales. MInd you a few of those (mine) "satirical comments" were not meant satirical at all! I don`t follow GH so I cannot comment on that.dzhoou wrote: ↑And which specific comments led you to that conclusion, mind if I ask?Hypersphere wrote: ↑@Ellipse: Sorry you got badly flamed recently on GH. I chalk it up several things, including a lack of maturity, jealousy, and a naive sense of altruism that stems in part from a fundamental lack of understanding or appreciation for something approaching a free-market economy.
So far I'm only seeing satirical comments on his sales pitch and pricing from a lot of DT members. That leads us to another question. Why only our friend Ellipse? Why not some other seller like elec or orihalcon? Because they are either sans the pitch, or the high pricing, or both.
If you think a free-market economy cannot contain a little satire for a high-profile, shrewd seller, then you're the one who's having issues.
- Ratfink
- Location: North Carolina, USA
- Main keyboard: IBM Displaywriter
- Main mouse: CST L-Trac
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
3 IBM System/23 Datamasters. Local pickup only; does anyone live near San Francisco?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-5322-System ... 43d66580e7
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-5322-System ... 43d66580e7
- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
As far as I know, quite a few million people do.Ratfink wrote: ↑[…] does anyone live near San Francisco? […]
But of course not all of them read here
- ramnes
- ПБТ НАВСЕГДА
- Location: France
- Main keyboard: KMAC LE
- Main mouse: Zowie AM
- Favorite switch: GPL 104 lubed 62g nixies
- DT Pro Member: -
Amiga 2000 with Cherry MX switches:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/131410062704?_tr ... EBIDX%3AIT
http://www.ebay.de/itm/131410062704?_tr ... EBIDX%3AIT
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- Main keyboard: Phantom Custom
- Main mouse: RAT7
- Favorite switch: Panda Clear
- DT Pro Member: -
I do. While I realize that the /23 is the first F, how usable are these keyboards?Ratfink wrote: ↑3 IBM System/23 Datamasters. Local pickup only; does anyone live near San Francisco?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-5322-System ... 43d66580e7
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Filco ZERO green alps, Model F 122 Terminal
- Main mouse: Ducky Secret / Roller Mouse Pro 1
- Favorite switch: MX Mount Topre / Model F Buckling
- DT Pro Member: 0167
if you lived close it would be worth it for the higher quality old caps and spare flippers and stuff just take the assembly out and junk em
not worth shipping tho
i guess you could remove the CRT and floppy drives and mod in a modern widescreen LCD for a retro look all in one even put a mac mini in there for a iMac like experience.
gah dont tempt yourself
not worth shipping tho
i guess you could remove the CRT and floppy drives and mod in a modern widescreen LCD for a retro look all in one even put a mac mini in there for a iMac like experience.
gah dont tempt yourself