KBC 75

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KBC 75

[wt136]

kbc

[The Solutor]

Fantastic

[mtl]

WTB

[hoggy]

Now if that's programmable...

[db_Iodine]

Sexy.

[CeeSA]

what kinds of keycaps?

could you place a led in the whole to make all light?
Or is something more necessary?
Esc lights normaly only if you press fn and q.

[The Solutor]

what kinds of keycaps?

They look like the Xarmor, Qpad, Mionix, ones...

[webwit]

These keyboards are fugly as hell, but come in very handy during the night shift when you are driving around town in your policecar with no lights inside.

Concerning people who are into this but are not police officers, I wonder how far they will take it. Why stop with the LED illuminated keyboard? I for one like to see them modding their toilet seats with 100 LEDS, so when you go to the toilet but don't want to turn on the light, you still remain on target. The possibilities for people who want to live in the dark and want to operate kitch object in the dark at the same time, are endless. Your mouse, your seat, your zipper. How can we operate these things in the dark without LED backlighting?

[mintberryminuscrunch]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=toilet+led

[The Solutor]

These keyboards are fugly as hell

I can't disagree more, is just a shame that after 30 years of PCs backlight is not a default feature, like happen even on a 9 € chellphone, in the car's instrumentation, in the car stereos and so on.

But finally something is changed, and be sure that in less than two years the retroillumonation will become mainstream.

Since April the number microswitch keyboards available is growing constantly, and even the average Joe that normally don't ask for a baklit keyboard simply because unaware they exist, is starting to realize that sometime a little thing can made the life easier.

[webwit]

If you have to look at your input device you're doing it wrong. Do you see people driving around looking not at the road but at their LED invested steering wheels?

[The Solutor]

If you have to look at your input device you're doing it wrong.

Opinions.

I can reply that If you employed your time to learn how type blindly, a lot of other people were more concerned about what type.

Who is more wrong who spend a life to build an high end HIFI, and knows very little about music, or who use a cheap cube but has an huge musical collection and culture ?

The day I want to be a secretary I'll dress a short skirt and I'll learn to touchtype properly, for now i prefer to use my abilities for something more productive.

[mintberryminuscrunch]

In my opinion leds are just an gimmic like lcds on logitech boards.
And since i opose writing in the dark and dont like flashy kbds its not for me...

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[mtl]

I touch type and prefer backlight for finding the more obscure keys (Function keys, 3-key chords, etc.) in the dark. Speaking of, this keyboard would be better if the ninja-style legends on the media/Fn layer were lit as well.

[The Solutor]

I touch type and prefer backlight for finding the more obscure keys

Indeed the world is not black or white, there are an infinite numbers of shades between the two extremes.

Speaking of, this keyboard would be better if the ninja-style legends on the media/Fn layer were lit as well.

Could be also better to have the second function legends backlit too, like happen on my qpad and bl82.

Instead they choose the Black widow way

[webwit]

Learning how to touch type is the best thing you can do for productivity. I can't imagine going back to looking at keyboard, look at screen, look at keyboard, look at screen. Of course if you don't use your keyboard professionally, carry on. I advise a rubber dome keyboard. They are cheap.

[The Solutor]

Of course if you don't use your keyboard professionally, carry on.

IT is my life since 1982, and is my main job since the end of 90's.

And flexibility is my main pro, you can find my works in almost every sector, from the linux kernel to palmos, from windows to os2, from windows mobile to android.

And no proper touch typing can't improve anything, but I'm sure that there are more low level jobs where the fingers are more important than brain.

They aren't for me, thanks

I advise to use any good keyboard, keeping any form of fanboysm aside, you will resemble Ripster less, which is a good thing.

[webwit]

OK, keep carrying on staring at your driving wheel, while accusing people who look at the road to be lowly truck drivers, while you know they are not.

[The Solutor]

OK, keep carrying on staring at your driving wheel, while accusing people who look at the road to be lowly truck drivers, while you know they are not.

Driving wheel is the most obvious system to drive a car, you don't have to learn it, the instructions are already written in your "firmware", the same is applicable to a trackaball a mouse or a joystick.

A keyboard is the more unnatural input device, and the qwerty layout is a more unnatural layer on top of an already idiotic physical layout (we all know the historical reasons behind this), so the only commonalty with the steering wheel is that they are both input devices.

[sordna]

If I had to look at my shifter to change gears, I would be dead by now.

Solutor, while touch typing is not necessary to produce excellent code, it does increase productivity a lot, you cannot deny this.

[The Solutor]

To continue to be pedantic, I wrote "proper" touch typing for a reason.

Seem pretty obvious that after 30 years (almost 40 considering the typewriters) i don't type with two finger @0.5 cps

And btw where I wrote that I'm a coder ? The last proper program i wrote was was a driver to use an Okimate 20 with the sinclair QL in 1985.

In most cases like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=839492 was more matter to delete unneeded code than to write anything

[webwit]

Driving wheel is the most obvious system to drive a car, you don't have to learn it, the instructions are already written in your "firmware", the same is applicable to a trackaball a mouse or a joystick.

A keyboard is the more unnatural input device, and the qwerty layout is a more unnatural layer on top of an already idiotic physical layout (we all know the historical reasons behind this), so the only commonalty with the steering wheel is that they are both input devices.

This is an epitome of the concept of Cognitive Burden, and it is the reverse of what you say. Your brain has to cope with visually finding the keys, looking up, and the content you're writing. The part where you keep looking down and up is a burden for your brain, it will be less efficient in the content part. If you can touch type, all you brain needs to be occupied with is the writing (the thought process) itself. I'm glad I invested in it after doing it wrong for such a long time.

[The Solutor]

I'm glad I invested in it after doing it wrong for such a long time.

If you remember well I'm not criticizing your habits, your skill or your history.

It's webwit that is criticizing mine (an the ones of, likely, one billion of people).

[webwit]

Only one billion? I must work on my trolling skills!

[The Solutor]

Only one billion?

Likely a lot more, but I want to be cautious.

How many PC users in percentage are proper touch typist, according to your guess ?

I must work on my trolling skills!

Don't be too humble !!!

[webwit]

Likely a lot more, but I want to be cautious.

How many PC users in percentage are proper touch typist, according to your guess ?

What is your point? Seems like an offtopic logical fallacy, argumentum ad populum. Many people in the world cannot read and write. This is not a good reason to not learn to read and write.

[The Solutor]

Many people in the world cannot read and write. This is not a good reason to not learn to read and write.

Many people cannot read and write, and this is a big problem for them, where's the problem typing differently than a secretary ?

Likely you don't speak \Polish or Japanese, and me too, would be nice to speak those languages, but we haven't learned them because other priorities and or because the benefit wasn't enough to justify the effort.

Proper touchtyping is exactly like this, you feel is better for you to learn it, and it's fine.
Me and another billion of people have other priorities, and it's fine too.

[webwit]

You want it all. You don't want to learn how to touchtype. Yet you claim to know whether it is worth the effort. And people who can, are stupid secretaries. Also you are a professional. Riiiight. How convenient for you. This way you can remain as you are, while claiming equality or being better than people who improved themselves. It is fine if you don't want to invest in learning how to touchtype, for all the reasons you mentioned. These are all the reasons I used to delay learning how to touchtype. It gets embarrassing however if you go on and claim your way is just as effective and people who learned how to touchtype are doing stupid work.

[The Solutor]

You want it all. You don't want to learn how to touchtype. Yet you claim to know whether it is worth the effort. And people who can, are stupid secretaries. Also you are a professional. Riiiight. How convenient for you. This way you can remain as you are, while claiming equality or being better than people who improved themselves. It is fine if you don't want to invest in learning how to touchtype, for all the reasons you mentioned. It gets embarrassing however if you go on and claim your way is just as effective and people who learned how to touchtype are doing stupid work.

Reading skills are fine too btw

If you remember well I'm not criticizing your habits, your skill or your history.

It's webwit that is criticizing mine (an the ones of, likely, one billion of people).