oh I wish we were already at that stage. MY samples got lost... meaning the ones that I sent them to make the quote. We had to send them a new set of spacebars. Now they got them and made the quote.
The cost per spacebar is lower but I really want to see a test run first... That will cost something and will impact on the final pricing. So now they make a test run (it shouldn't take long), they send it to me, we decide if they are good enough, and then we go production.
A long way to go, but you gotta start from somewhere.
Topre PBT Spacebars
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Thanks for sticking with it, for all us Matt!
Losing Topre spacebars in the mail… yikes. How did you replace those? Topre caps are horribly overpriced, as we all know.
Losing Topre spacebars in the mail… yikes. How did you replace those? Topre caps are horribly overpriced, as we all know.
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Especially because I have never seen a spare spacebar outside of a full set...
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elitekeyboards fortunately sell them... but we also had to give them color samples for blue and red.Stabilized wrote: ↑Especially because I have never seen a spare spacebar outside of a full set...
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Are they colour-matching based on Topre's coloured ABS spacebars?
Would it have been possible to colour-match from a single unit PBT cap? I think that would actually result in more accurate colour overall because Topre's ABS coloured spacebars are not very close to the PBT caps, especially with the blue set this is noticeable.
Would it have been possible to colour-match from a single unit PBT cap? I think that would actually result in more accurate colour overall because Topre's ABS coloured spacebars are not very close to the PBT caps, especially with the blue set this is noticeable.
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yes, black and white are color matched on the 1u keys
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I actually don't know! I feel like the Realforce white is a bit brighter but can't say for certain.
Why don't you grab a $154 Realforce and find out for us, Mu
Why don't you grab a $154 Realforce and find out for us, Mu
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unfortunately they don't ship to Italy otherwise I would probably grab one
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Muirium
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I've already got a 55g white Realforce 87U waiting for me in California as it happens! (Interesting story. Unplanned. Can wait until I write a comparison about it and the HHKB I'll have with me.) I can check in a couple of weeks…
Something else I should proxy from America? Can't really justify it for myself now!matt3o wrote: ↑unfortunately they don't ship to Italy otherwise I would probably grab one
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Damn it! After months of not visiting DT...I check this thread and buy a Realforce less than 5 minutes after logging in002 wrote: ↑I actually don't know! I feel like the Realforce white is a bit brighter but can't say for certain.
Why don't you grab a $154 Realforce and find out for us, Mu
Not sure if I should be mad or appreciate that you posted it
EDIT: Oh and I have a black and a white HHKB keycap set so I can try and see if there are any differences in color.
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Haha! Welcome back
I am interested to know how this keyboard feels, too. The NG0100 was introduced in 2004 and it looks like these ones on eBay are early models as they have the old logo plate. I'd say it's probably close to 9-10 years old and NIB, so curious to know if the rubber still feels snappy. It should be fine though as I have the Just Systems re-brand of this board and it feels great.
I am interested to know how this keyboard feels, too. The NG0100 was introduced in 2004 and it looks like these ones on eBay are early models as they have the old logo plate. I'd say it's probably close to 9-10 years old and NIB, so curious to know if the rubber still feels snappy. It should be fine though as I have the Just Systems re-brand of this board and it feels great.
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When it comes to Topre I can only compare it to my 2 year old HHKB Pro 2 which I've been using exclusively and easily for 5000h+ by now. But iirc there was a thread on GH with some experiments regarding the feeling and pressure needed and heavy use didn't really have a big impact.
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I've been able to check HHKB white with the realforce 002 sent to me few months ago. They are very (very) close, but there seems to be a tiny color difference (being the realforce a pinch warmer white).
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That sounds plausible to me. My HHKB is a paler shade in reality than I expected. The mods are the real reason, but their low contrast with the alphas is possibly enhanced by a cooler shade on those. Anyway, I can see the ABS spacebar's hint of yellowness in comparison (ABS never seems to have that natural PBT whiteness) so if you can beat that I'm happy!
Good luck with the JIS layout, Neo. I might got for it myself someday, do love a tiny little spacebar, and those ones are natural PBT!
Good luck with the JIS layout, Neo. I might got for it myself someday, do love a tiny little spacebar, and those ones are natural PBT!
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Manufacturer has being paid to start production of the mold.
Today I received the 3D model they will be building the spacebars on.
hold tight!
Today I received the 3D model they will be building the spacebars on.
hold tight!
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They are shipping the prototypes today! I should get them in 2-3 days!
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Guys... All hands on the table please...
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2-3 days and I'll know
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Yummy, my Realforce waits for a serious spacebar!
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why anyone makes spacebars / caps out of ABS on premium boards is beyond me, i just don't get it. The trouble you topre boys have had to go to to get a decent spacebar is crazy.
They look loverly , nothing better than a clunking great spacebar.
They look loverly , nothing better than a clunking great spacebar.
