Raytheon 6104-04
- HaaTa
- Master Kiibohd Hunter
- Location: San Jose, California, USA
- Main keyboard: Depends the day
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So, Ima try something. Let's see if I can post one new keyboard everyday, until...well, when I can't anymore?
So, first off, something from one of those companies that likes to make missiles: Raytheon.
OEM'd by that Cortron company (with the older style of the ITW Magnetic Valve/Pulse switches).
Looks to be from sometime in 1979 (though it's basically in new condition).
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So many layers...
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Also, that plastic is sharp, definitely cut myself on it :/
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Yay! A clicker. Now this particular Deltrol clicker has been incorrectly called a solenoid. It's not!
It's an electromagnet with a spring. There's a difference! (no shaft that moves within the coil)
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Locking switch.
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Which says lock
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So, first off, something from one of those companies that likes to make missiles: Raytheon.
OEM'd by that Cortron company (with the older style of the ITW Magnetic Valve/Pulse switches).
Looks to be from sometime in 1979 (though it's basically in new condition).
DSC_1644
DSC_1642
DSC_1639
DSC_1627
So many layers...
DSC_1620
Also, that plastic is sharp, definitely cut myself on it :/
DSC_1610
Yay! A clicker. Now this particular Deltrol clicker has been incorrectly called a solenoid. It's not!
It's an electromagnet with a spring. There's a difference! (no shaft that moves within the coil)
DSC_1580
DSC_1578
DSC_1582
DSC_1575
DSC_1572
Locking switch.
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Which says lock
DSC_1569
DSC_1533
Flickr Album
- HaaTa
- Master Kiibohd Hunter
- Location: San Jose, California, USA
- Main keyboard: Depends the day
- Main mouse: CST L-TracX
- Favorite switch: Fujitsu Leaf Spring/Topre/BS/Super Alps
- DT Pro Member: 0006
- Contact:
- HaaTa
- Master Kiibohd Hunter
- Location: San Jose, California, USA
- Main keyboard: Depends the day
- Main mouse: CST L-TracX
- Favorite switch: Fujitsu Leaf Spring/Topre/BS/Super Alps
- DT Pro Member: 0006
- Contact:
It's ITW Magnetic Valve. Which uses magnetism to stop the flow of current (which signals a press).
A Hall Effect switch detects the strength of the magnetic field directly.
Unfortunately, ITW keycaps are not compatible with Honeywell Hall Effect switches (even though they look really really close). Size is a bit different.
A Hall Effect switch detects the strength of the magnetic field directly.
Unfortunately, ITW keycaps are not compatible with Honeywell Hall Effect switches (even though they look really really close). Size is a bit different.
- HaaTa
- Master Kiibohd Hunter
- Location: San Jose, California, USA
- Main keyboard: Depends the day
- Main mouse: CST L-TracX
- Favorite switch: Fujitsu Leaf Spring/Topre/BS/Super Alps
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Mechanicals are very similar so I'd rate them about the same.
Sense mechanism, you could argue that magnetic valve uses passive rather than active components so it's actually more reliable in that respect.
But tbh, it's the spring that'd wear out first by a long shot if the same electrical environment.
Sense mechanism, you could argue that magnetic valve uses passive rather than active components so it's actually more reliable in that respect.
But tbh, it's the spring that'd wear out first by a long shot if the same electrical environment.
- JanitorJoe
- Location: BC, Canada
- Main keyboard: HHKB
- Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Springs/45g Topre/65g Ergo Clears
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I bought one of these a month ago when it was posted in the interesting finds thread. I really like it, the switches feel nice and it's definitely my prettiest board. Is there any way to go about actually making it usable?
- HaaTa
- Master Kiibohd Hunter
- Location: San Jose, California, USA
- Main keyboard: Depends the day
- Main mouse: CST L-TracX
- Favorite switch: Fujitsu Leaf Spring/Topre/BS/Super Alps
- DT Pro Member: 0006
- Contact:
Might be possible, but would need to be reverse engineered, then if the protocol looks good a protocol converter could be made.
Worst case, a new controller would be necessary, which is a bit tricky as I'm not sure anyone has made a magnetic valve controller in the community yet.
I'm super swamped, so I'm not the person to ask unless you can show up to my place with a case of beer and get me to focus on it (this has been done to some success in the past)
Worst case, a new controller would be necessary, which is a bit tricky as I'm not sure anyone has made a magnetic valve controller in the community yet.
I'm super swamped, so I'm not the person to ask unless you can show up to my place with a case of beer and get me to focus on it (this has been done to some success in the past)
- vivalarevolución
- formerly prdlm2009
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM Beam spring
- Main mouse: Kangaroo
- Favorite switch: beam spring
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Christ, HaaTa, where do you find this stuff.
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I knew they were ITW magnetic valve! From the first look at those keycaps over a year ago, that's what I thought.
Here's the terminal they're from:
Raytheon was a defence contractor who also made terminals from 1972 to around 1984. From what I can see, their terminals always used Licon/ITW magnetic valve switches.
Here's the terminal they're from:
Raytheon was a defence contractor who also made terminals from 1972 to around 1984. From what I can see, their terminals always used Licon/ITW magnetic valve switches.