Trump v Clinton: who do you support?

[seebart]

Yes. Trump is English slang for Loud Fart.

That's great I did not know that.

[photekq]

However, he is a successful businessman.

No.

Yet another empty statement! Back it up and then I'll start listening.

Also, him being a big-businessman (successful or not) is a negative in my mind, as I said in the rest of my post.

[Muirium]

His dad was. Trumpet is more of a successful heir. Pivoting his dad's money into his own public notoriety.

[fohat]

However, he is a successful businessman.

In a bit more detail:

https://www.quora.com/Did-Donald-Trump- ... kable-rate

[Muirium]

Donald Trump isn't rich because he's a great investor. He's rich because his dad was rich.
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/2/9248963/don ... index-fund

Lifestyle pro tip: have richer parents.

[Halvar]

Or with a bit less detail:

[Findecanor]

However, he is a successful businessman.

No.

Yet another empty statement! Back it up and then I'll start listening.

There is so much info floating around right now about his business failures that I felt that I did not have to.
John Oliver's video (which I already posted in another thread) is one source.

[seebart]

His dad was. Trumpet is more of a successful heir. Pivoting his dad's money into his own public notoriety.

Yes and from what I have read he got very "lucky" in the late 1970's in buying real esate that x10 in value a decade later. He's also had quite a few business disasters and was almost broke at one point. If you put his current wealth in perspective to what Bill Gates is worth for example it's little.

[Redmaus]

Or with a bit less detail:

Ugh I can't stand this guy. Does anyone really think his stuff is funny, I liked him at first but now its just dry humor.

[Matt_]

Yeah after a while the guy becomes a total bore. If only there was something more substantial than humor to his show.

[photekq]

Information to back up statements in an argument about Trump! Bloody hell! Never thought I'd see the day..

Alright, after looking at your sources and looking into it myself I withdraw the word "successful" from my original post. The remainder of my post goes unchanged though

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I also can't stand John Oliver.

[Muirium]

I can't stand Jamie Oliver. I'll assume, for comic purposes, it's just the same bloke.

[seebart]

All these TV cooks, we have tons of them here in Germany. Half of everything on German TV is cooking shows, the rest is soccer. Some of these guys are making $$$ with their names, books, DVD's etc. I'm sure Jamie Oliver is doing very well.

[kbdfr]

[…] Half of everything on German TV is cooking shows, the rest is soccer. […]

I would say one third cooking shows, one third soccer, one third talent shows.

[seebart]

[…] Half of everything on German TV is cooking shows, the rest is soccer. […]

I would say one third cooking shows, one third soccer, one third talent shows.

Yes that sounds about right, but of course many viewers want that content which is why I watch almost no television at all anymore, if so online. Much more flexible.

[Matt_]

Alright, I was being ironical, I actually quite like John Oliver. He has a fun way of reminding you in what kind of fucked-up world/society we live.

[Muirium]

That pukka fucker.

[Redmaus]

I really don't like oliver. He only advocates for liberal policies and agendas. But that's not even the reason I don't like him. He is just annoying to listen to.

[photekq]

Indeed. Him and Trudeau share the same problem!

[seebart]

Super PAC Spends $2 Million To Take Down Donald Trump

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-d ... -ads/?_r=0

[Muirium]

To be honest, I can't stand watching pundits in general, whether they're on my wavelength or far off. Turned off the political tv many years ago.

Besides, when I read, I can make them sound just as dumb as their ideas, or just as pedantic as their choice of words.

[seebart]

To be honest, I can't stand watching pundits in general, whether they're on my wavelength or far off. Turned off the political tv many years ago.

Besides, when I read, I can make them sound just as dumb as their ideas, or just as pedantic as their choice of words.

Let's just say there are very few really good ones. Aside from that John Oliver is pretty boring IMO. His shorter bits on the Jon Stewart show were better.

[Redmaus]

I have been thinking, and at this point Donald Trump will most likely be America's next president.

Bernie will not be the nominee due to the black vote and superdelegates, so that leaves Hillary vs Trump.

In that situation, I see more people voting for trump than Hillary.

[seebart]

We shall see Redmaus, I think your right about Bernie though. There are what like six months to go?

[Matt_]

Never doubt the ability of the GOP to scuttle their own ship. See:

Super PAC Spends $2 Million To Take Down Donald Trump

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-d ... -ads/?_r=0

[Redmaus]

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[seebart]

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[sth]

I think I generally agree with fohat on this one.

as a rule i find this to be a good course of action for most discussions, along with kbdfr

[Muirium]

We shall see Redmaus, I think your right about Bernie though.

Bernie was the one who had me worried. He was the George McGovern of this race. The radical leftie that excited young democrats in 1972 and won the nomination. Real change! But then America said this in November:



Nixon. Nixon! As dull and crooked as presidents got, but he won the greatest landslide in American history. Because socialism is political suicide.

Trump would have won against Sanders. Hillary spared us that scenario. I think we'll see something more like 2008: non-white voters turning out for the democrats in record numbers. In 2008 it was for Obama's hope. In 2016 it will be to oppose Trump's terror.

[Halvar]

45% "refuse to vote because you despise them both". Well that will work great.