New Cherry (Silver) "Speed Switches"? Thoughts or opinions?
- Redmaus
- Gotta start somewhere
- Location: Near Dallas, Texas
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I wonder if these will be good for faster typing? I doubt it will really improve gaming all that much.
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
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- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
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It's from Cherry Corp., the MOST widely used mechanical switch on the planet hence it needs MAXIMUM exposure, even on DT .Khers wrote: ↑@Ace why 4 threads for the same thing?
- bhtooefr
- Location: Newark, OH, USA
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Looks like it's a MX red with the actuation point moved up. Useful for gaming, may make typing harder (more accidental keystrokes) given the force curve.
- shreebles
- Finally 60%
- Location: Cologne, Germany
- Main keyboard: FaceW 45g Silent Red /NerD60 MX Red
- Main mouse: Logitech G303 / GPro (home) MX Anywhere 2 (work)
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Typing without mistakes on Reds is difficult enough as it is.
Not sure it's entirely an advantage for gaming. Reds are so light you bottom out when gaming anyways. So when you move the actuation point up, you also move the reset point higher! That means it takes longer to re-actuate a switch after you have bottomed out, making spamming a movement key more difficult.
It's all just dumb marketing I guess, and I will never understand Cherry. But I'm open to try it once it's available.
Not sure it's entirely an advantage for gaming. Reds are so light you bottom out when gaming anyways. So when you move the actuation point up, you also move the reset point higher! That means it takes longer to re-actuate a switch after you have bottomed out, making spamming a movement key more difficult.
It's all just dumb marketing I guess, and I will never understand Cherry. But I'm open to try it once it's available.
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All skilled rhythm gamers I know replied more or less with "If you want shallow actuation, get scissor switches" and "just give me a consistent switch and I'll take care of the APM". On the other hand osu players are claiming that this is the next big thing besides 144Hz monitors. But that was to be expected since Razer is popular in there.
- Touch_It
- Location: Nebraska, United States.
- Main keyboard: Unicomp Classic USB 103 key (work) IBM F 4704 107
- Main mouse: Logitech g502 Proteus Core
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring (yet to try Beam Spring)
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I found it ironic they say faster click action, when it is a linear switch.
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
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- c2lknt
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: As if i could limit myself to one.
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: Topre
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Gaming switches just seem crazy to me. Are there such malnourished and frail gamers for whom 10cN difference is going to make the difference between extreme fatigue and super amazing long-session performance? Just seems like a switch for people who really want to bottom out every press, but somehow can't do that with reds.
I'm a guitarist, so I roll with greens/whites and I want something even firmer. Light switches make me, a skinny nerd in my 30s, want to go all drill sargent with some finger strengtheners. (..That's how much of a wuss I am: I don't even know how to spell sargent.)
I'm a guitarist, so I roll with greens/whites and I want something even firmer. Light switches make me, a skinny nerd in my 30s, want to go all drill sargent with some finger strengtheners. (..That's how much of a wuss I am: I don't even know how to spell sargent.)
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
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If you play guitar and like MX greens you're not a total wuss. Gaming switches are all about marketing and Cherry got some strong competition by now. I barely use any "new" switches with the exception of Topre. I do own a Ducky Zero with MX blues that I've been trying to sell for years.c2lknt wrote: ↑Gaming switches just seem crazy to me. Are there such malnourished and frail gamers for whom 10cN difference is going to make the difference between extreme fatigue and super amazing long-session performance? Just seems like a switch for people who really want to bottom out every press, but somehow can't do that with reds.
I'm a guitarist, so I roll with greens/whites and I want something even firmer. Light switches make me, a skinny nerd in my 30s, want to go all drill sargent with some finger strengtheners. (..That's how much of a wuss I am: I don't even know how to spell sargent.)
- cookie
- Location: Hamburg, Germany
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
- Main mouse: MX Master
- Favorite switch: Topre
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Cherry under pressure, I've heard that MX switches have dropped a lot in quality and that Gaterons are taking over right now. The pictures looked very promising but I am not very fond of counterfeit products.
I think cherry is a bit late after Razer did this "marketing joke" a year ago... Now people have realized that it actually makes no difference.
Pictures like this look very tempting:
The cherry.... well not so much :/
I think cherry is a bit late after Razer did this "marketing joke" a year ago... Now people have realized that it actually makes no difference.
Pictures like this look very tempting:
The cherry.... well not so much :/
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
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- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
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Don't see how these could compete with linearised black Alps, which already have a high actuation point and which are much smoother than modern Cherry switches :p .
- Redmaus
- Gotta start somewhere
- Location: Near Dallas, Texas
- Main keyboard: Unsaver | 3276 | Kingsaver
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I have no problem with this
Also, shouldn't they just make some analog switches if they really want to market to the gamer community? I think it would work well.
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
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- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
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Ugh, what do you want, dyesub PBTs? Doubleshot ABS caps? They can all be found in the Alps world no problem .cookie wrote: ↑Caps my friend, caps are the problems
- cookie
- Location: Hamburg, Germany
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ABS? No please god no. PBT? Ohh yes, blanks, even more yes!!!
Also I only type on 60% keyboards and I highly prefere the HHKB style shift/fn combination. I can't remember to ever saw such caps on an Alps board.
Also I only type on 60% keyboards and I highly prefere the HHKB style shift/fn combination. I can't remember to ever saw such caps on an Alps board.
- Redmaus
- Gotta start somewhere
- Location: Near Dallas, Texas
- Main keyboard: Unsaver | 3276 | Kingsaver
- Main mouse: Kensington Slimblade
- Favorite switch: Capacitative Buckling Spring
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You can get an apple board with dyesubs easy in 60% just look at the alps party
- E3E
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Blue, Neon Green, Striped Amber, Cream Alps, Topre
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cookie wrote: ↑ABS? No please god no. PBT? Ohh yes, blanks, even more yes!!!
Also I only type on 60% keyboards and I highly prefere the HHKB style shift/fn combination. I can't remember to ever saw such caps on an Alps board.
I have one. These are Alps SKCL Green.
You could find PBT caps that would fit an HHKB layout. You need either an old logo US-made Dell AT101 or SGI Granite for the ANSI portion, and an IBM 5140 for the short right shift, and you'd be right as rain.
For this one, I use grey doubleshots made by Alps that were on a Visual board (traded with sth) and the DCS mod pack that Badwrench hosted a while back.
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- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Almost the first thing he tests here:
"Feels like Cherry MX Red"
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- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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A Corsair rep on another forum confirmed that they use the same springs as in Cherry MX Red.