Let's have a look at the T̶a̶i̶-̶H̶a̶o̶ Aruz switch!

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Dra

07 May 2016, 00:11

Alright, so since I got lucky and have 2 Aruz boards in my hand (one of which was bought just to send off the keycaps) I decided to do what I do best: Be THAT guy.

Here's some what I found out about the Tai-Hao HIMAKE! Aruz switch

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So as it turns out the switch was NOT manufactured by Tai-Hao, but rather by Himake, which makes sense seeing that at the time the Aruz boards popped (1992) up Himake wasn't owned by Hua-Ji.

Popping off the switch reveals the mass-produced PCB that was, unlike the plate, compatible with both, Aruz switches (outer pins) as well as Alps (inner pins).

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The reason I only say mass-produced PCB is that the Aruz plate cutouts don't match the Alps cutout. In fact, the Alps cutout is wider but not as tall, the Aruz switches loosely fit into a Cherry MX plate (with a little bit of free space on the sides)

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Coming to the back, you can clearly see how different the switches are in form and pin placement. Also note how the Himake branding is aligned sideways rather than upside down like on the Alps as well as the plastic not being nearly as shiny on the Aruz.

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The internals are what really makes this switch different from Alps, you get an almost straight slider, thinner spring, wider click leaf (I tried putting it in the Alps housing, it wouldn't fit) and, most importantly, a housing with compartments which makes reassembling these way easier.

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Personally, typing on my FAME TH-5539 right now I like the switch, the reduced travel is a thing you need to get used to but there's one flaw I've noticed: The keys activate before the tactile bump happens, so it can happen that you press a button you didn't mean to press by tapping it lightly.

Opinions? Questions? Send them my way :D
I may have to revive Wodan's Vulture GB for the switches since I doubt I'll be getting a custom plate and handwire these beauties anytime soon.

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seebart
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07 May 2016, 00:20

Oh Himake? Good work. I must say I did like the switch when I had it here, if only that keyboard had a metal backplate. More data for our wiki.

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E3E

07 May 2016, 06:37

Glad to finally see who made these. I hope you can end up wiring up a custom build for yourself eventually, Dra.

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Chyros

07 May 2016, 10:24

Himale eh? How are they related to Tai-Hai? And could they have made the mysterious keycaps perhaps?

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Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere

07 May 2016, 10:30

so a Cherry plate would work with the Aruz switch?

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Dra

07 May 2016, 10:36

Redmaus wrote: so a Cherry plate would work with the Aruz switch?
Not exactly, with a cherry plate you still have a fair amount of wobble since the Aruz switch is still a little smaller

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itzmeluigi

07 May 2016, 11:49

It looks like they might fit in a Omron plate.

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seebart
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07 May 2016, 14:32

Chyros wrote: Himale eh? How are they related to Tai-Hai? And could they have made the mysterious keycaps perhaps?
May well be that Tai-Hao commissioned Himake to manufacture this series or Himake already had this series switch and Tai-Hao simply bought them for their Aruz/Fame boards. Himake was acquired by Hua-Jie in 2001.

wiki/Himake

wiki/Hua-Jie

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Dra

07 May 2016, 19:11

itzmeluigi wrote: It looks like they might fit in a Omron plate.
Well then, I'll try getting an Omron board and try this out!

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snuci
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12 May 2016, 02:09

While the Wiki states that the Aruz switch was made by Tai Ho and Himake, this sounds like the Aruz switches are all made by Himake, which could be considered misleading.

I'd be happy to take more pics if requested.
FAME 5539 keyboard - Aruz switch identification
FAME 5539 keyboard - Aruz switch identification
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FAME keyboard - Aruz blue switch topside
FAME keyboard - Aruz blue switch topside
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snuci
Vintage computer guy

14 May 2016, 01:09

I'll post some pics in case there are any differences from the Himake clicky blue versions to these Aruz versions:
Aruz Clicky Blue - top
Aruz Clicky Blue - top
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Aruz Clicky Blue - bottom
Aruz Clicky Blue - bottom
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Aruz Clicky Blue - slider removed
Aruz Clicky Blue - slider removed
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Aruz Clicky Blue - spring removed
Aruz Clicky Blue - spring removed
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Aruz Clicky Blue - parts
Aruz Clicky Blue - parts
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Aruz Clicky Blue - parts profile
Aruz Clicky Blue - parts profile
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Aruz Clicky Blue - PCB holes
Aruz Clicky Blue - PCB holes
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Aruz Clicky Blue - solder removed
Aruz Clicky Blue - solder removed
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Aruz Clicky Blue - resoldered
Aruz Clicky Blue - resoldered
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Chyros

14 May 2016, 01:24

Excellent, should buff up the wiki article on it nicely :D .

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Dra

14 May 2016, 23:59

I'll be taking more pictures of the Himake version to compare tomorrow!

terrycherry

31 May 2016, 09:52

Great to correct the wiki. I just call it to Himake Aruz(Alps mount).
But you guys don't remember of alps.tw photo showing this two variants: Blue(No logo) and white(JL CSC logo)
(Clicky)Blue(No logo), (Clicky)White(JL CSC logo).jpg
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seebart
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31 May 2016, 09:56

Great work snuci, terrycherry and Dra, we really have quite a bit on the Himake Aruz switch for our wiki by now. Thanks.

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