A new US Republican thread 2016

[002]

Umm did you just _assume_ Trump's colour, shitlord?
And yeah I saw some of that stuff...not sure what to think about that right now without sounding like a conspiracy theorist whack-job. The latest Podesta dump has some interesting stuff about a "Hot Dog" party...
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/12/1 ... iday-.html

[adhoc]

Umm did you just _assume_ Trump's colour, shitlord?

It's TWENTUH SIX TEEN AFTER ALL! *le epic current year may may*

I like this one:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/10052

"Bonnie will be >> Uber Service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Luzzatto (11, 9, and >> almost 7) so you’ll have some further entertainment, and they will be in >> that pool for sure."

[seebart]

You two just go on with the jive, but for some reason I have a feeling we will see "key flaws in public polling" and at least one election recount like Florida 2000.

[002]

Honestly, if that's the worst of the drama that we see before this show is over then I'd be very surprised.

[cookie]

lets just be real, the next 4 years will be super shitty. The best we can hope is that they won't nuke us all.

[002]

I don't think either of them are going to be haphazardly launching nukes around like it's some stupid game. I honestly can't believe that people think this is going to be the case...but if I'm wrong I don't give a fuck because we'll all be dead and no-body will be able to rub it in my face.

[adhoc]

lets just be real, the next 4 years will be super shitty.

This.

[seebart]

lets just be real, the next 4 years will be super shitty. The best we can hope is that they won't nuke us all.

The next 4 years will be super shitty either way, no nukes though IMO.

[Findecanor]

In this morning's newspaper: a financial institute has calculated that if Trump wins then USA would be in for a long recession ...
Who could have guessed?

[adhoc]

In this morning's newspaper: a financial institute has calculated that if Trump wins then USA would be in for a long recession ...
Who could have guessed?

Yeah, fearmongering would be really a hard guess after several months of it.

[cookie]

I despise them both so much, I can't understand how a person like Trump can gain that much popularity with all the crap he drops on a daily basis. I can't understand how media has managed to kill Bernie.
I can't understand how people can consider such an evil, manipulative, untrustworthy bitch as president.
The whole election backs my opinion about USA having tremendously stupid inhabitants.

It's all about cock sucking behind the scenes, manipulating voters and placing the best candidate in interest for the puppet masters in the back. Basically like every other election but this time it is too obvious.

[andrewjoy]

I despise them both so much, I can't understand how a person like Trump can gain that much popularity with all the crap he drops on a daily basis. I can't understand how media has managed to kill Bernie.
I can't understand how people can consider such an evil, manipulative, untrustworthy bitch as president.
The whole election backs my opinion about USA having tremendously stupid inhabitants.

It's all about cock sucking behind the scenes, manipulating voters and placing the best candidate in interest for the puppet masters in the back. Basically like every other election but this time it is too obvious.

The media campaign against Bernie was organised and carried out by the democratic party and people within Clintons circle , there is loads of money behind her getting into the job from lobby groups and big business.

So well done the only decent human being who was in the race got stabbed in the back by his own party.

Genius

Don't forget , its necessary to get behind somone before you can stab them in the back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q9etev ... u.be&t=688

In this morning's newspaper: a financial institute has calculated that if Trump wins then USA would be in for a long recession ...
Who could have guessed?

Yeah, fearmongering would be really a hard guess after several months of it.

Beacuse that worked so well for the remain campaign.

[adhoc]

Didn't say it worked well, I was just pointing it out. I hate fear mongering and both candidates are doing it.

[cookie]

Well it worked for Hitler, why not for Giant Douche and Turd Sandwich?

[adhoc]

Well it worked for Hitler, why not for Giant Douche and Turd Sandwich?

Eh? Hitler didn't fear monger people into voting him. Hitler actually came to power with nearly identical promises as Bernie Sanders, which is also why I am dumbfounded when people say Trump sounds like Hitler, because it's not true at all. Hitler came to power when Germany was poor with promises to break the power of the banking elite that is keeping Germany in an iron fist, to help all Germans, to bring economical prosperity, to bring social justice, etc. That is why it was called national socialism (=nazi). Hitler was left winged by pretty much every aspect of his politics at the time.

... and it worked. He DID bring economical prosperity to Germany, he did propel the country from poverty and famine into a world superpower in a matter of couple of years! He did a lot of great things for his country. It's really a shame what his politics turned into, however

[fohat]

On the other hand, groups are openly advocating for violent rebellion if Hillary wins.

This a very real and present concern. The heavily-armed nut cases have been empowered to disregard the rule of law and civil decency.

Given the absolute choice between Clinton and Trump, I take Clinton.

Don't flush your vote down the toilet. It *IS* an absolute choice.

And most importantly, vote Democratic all the way down-ticket.

[kbdfr]

[…] Hitler actually came to power with nearly identical promises as Bernie Sanders, which is also why I am dumbfounded when people say Trump sounds like Hitler, because it's not true at all. Hitler came to power when Germany was poor with promises to break the power of the banking elite that is keeping Germany in an iron fist, to help all Germans, to bring economical prosperity, to bring social justice, etc. That is why it was called national socialism (=nazi). Hitler was left winged by pretty much every aspect of his politics at the time. […]

I wonder where you picked up such a daring, clearly wrong interpretation of widely known facts.

Hitler’s central promises, clearly and explicitely expressed in the party program ("25-Punkte-Programm") of the NSDAP, were (put in modern words) "making Germany great again" (point 1 and 2), "getting rid of the Jews" (point 4), and "banning all non-German immigrants" (point 8):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_ ... st_Program

Perhaps you recognize why "people say Trump sounds like Hitler": because he does.

[adhoc]

Please explain to me how does a pro-israel, pro-jewish politician sound just like Hitler. Also, please explain to me how does capitalism sound just like socialism. I would love to see that connection, but I am uncapable of the mental gymnastics to jump through these loops.

Can't wait to hear your personal interpretation of everything as objective truth and any contest to your ideologies as false. And by that I mean how does penalizing ILLEGAL immigrants sound like banning ALL immigrants.

[kbdfr]

Of course Trump doesn’t attack the Jews, things have changed.
I just wanted to point out that he clearly attacks a certain group. Now it’s the Hispanics.

Today the "illegal immigrants have no rights" stance is common to a lot of countries.
You deny people substantial rights (e.g. family reunification) and then blame them for being illegal,
even if they have lived in the country 10 years or more without committing any other infraction than their illegal status,
and even if they have founded families and if their children, having been born in the US, are US citizens (14th Amendment).

[irony] Throw them out, those nasty illegal immigrants! [/irony]

[adhoc]

I know social marxism is basically a cult which you're part of, but I liked you Germans better when you had the "Ordnung muss sein" mentality. Defending someone for not registering his living in a foreign country is definitely not in accordance to order. There's multiple problems that can arise from this, and I'm sure I don't have to spell them out for you. Give them a chance to live a better life, to work and prosper, yes. But not in an illegal manner.

[kbdfr]

[…] social marxism […]

[…] you Germans […]

Sorry if I disappoint you: I’m a (legal) migrant.

[…] not registering his living in a foreign country is definitely not in accordance to order […]

Silly argumentation, as registering when you’re illegal means immediate expulsion.

Give them a chance to live a better life, to work and prosper […]

A good starting point would be not ruining them in the first place.

As an example,
exporting cheap poultry to Africa and then blaming ruined African poultry farmers and their families for heading to rich Europe (where at least they won’t starve even if they are "illegal", while they would if "legally" staying in their country) is pure hypocrisy.

[irony] Throw them out, those nasty illegal immigrants! [/irony]
After all, they threaten our societies, our prosperity, our security, our sleep or whatever
(in your words: "There's multiple problems that can arise from this").

Ever thought of the problems they have?

[adhoc]

No disappointment, it was clear as day to me you're an immigrant, because only immigrants show such clear lack of love for the hosting country.

No, it's not a silly argumentation, then there's a problem with the system. Solve that problem and you solve the problem with illegal immigrants. It's really simple.

Nah, I said no such thing as you, but then again, making shit up is in your constant vocabulary. You're either really stupid (I have a feeling you're not) or just trying to twist my words to suit your argument, which is something I'm getting used to when dealing with you anyway. Just in case you are really stupid, here's one of the problems that can arise from illegal immigrants; one of them gets injured, who pays the bill for the medical treatment? Just an example. Perhaps with more imagination and less shaming you'll think up of something that doesn't resemble North Korea.

[seebart]

Oh boy you two are really "giving this a go". As a german I'm not even going to get into this argument. Bottom line is Trump is a fraction as intelligent as Hitler, and hopefully only a fraction as evil. Want to see a live transformation of a country from democracy > dictatorship? Just look at Turkey right now.

[kbdfr]

[…] Just in case you are really stupid, here's one of the problems that can arise from illegal immigrants; one of them gets injured, who pays the bill for the medical treatment? […]

Obviously I am stupid: I fail to see the "immigrant" relevance of your example.
When any citizen who does not have an income gets ill or injured, who pays the bill for the medical treatment?

[…] because only immigrants show such clear lack of love for the hosting country.

Now that’s funny. I would have thought precisely immigrants would love their hosting country.
After all, they chose to live there for a reason and not because they just happened to be born there.

A pity you probably don’t understand French:

Here the lyrics with an English translation (which sadly does not really do justice to the verve of the original):
Brassens: La ballade des gens qui sont nés quelque part

However, for future discussion I would appreciate it if you tried to not attack me personally,
but rather rely on arguments.

[chuckdee]

You two just go on with the jive, but for some reason I have a feeling we will see "key flaws in public polling" and at least one election recount like Florida 2000.

A feeling? I thought it was a given at this point.

[adhoc]

However, for future discussion I would appreciate it if you tried to not attack me personally,
but rather rely on arguments.

You fail to see you were the one to first attack me personally, which is the only reason why I started doing it so...thanks, you too.

[chuckdee]

I don't think either of them are going to be haphazardly launching nukes around like it's some stupid game. I honestly can't believe that people think this is going to be the case...but if I'm wrong I don't give a fuck because we'll all be dead and no-body will be able to rub it in my face.

Trump said he might use nuclear weapons and questioned why we would make them if we wouldn’t use them

https://thinkprogress.org/9-terrifying- ... .fudywkyqq

That's only one of 9. It's pretty frightening that someone like this is close to the white house. Much more frightening than not knowing about Aleppo. At least GJ wouldn't be nuking Aleppo if he doesn't know about it.

[chuckdee]

Given the absolute choice between Clinton and Trump, I take Clinton. But I have more choices than that, and I will exercise them.

Same here, it's called "Schadensbegrenzung" in german.

Spoiler:

Damage control

Not that I am participating in this vote just to be clear.

I want to vote for someone, not against someone else. And I can't, in good conscience, vote for either.

[kbdfr]

However, for future discussion I would appreciate it if you tried to not attack me personally,
but rather rely on arguments.

You fail to see you were the one to first attack me personally, which is the only reason why I started doing it so...thanks, you too.

I attacked your arguments, not you as a person.
Sorry if you feel not agreeing with you is a personal offense.

[andrewjoy]

However, for future discussion I would appreciate it if you tried to not attack me personally,
but rather rely on arguments.

You fail to see you were the one to first attack me personally, which is the only reason why I started doing it so...thanks, you too.

I attacked your arguments, not you as a person.
Sorry if you feel not agreeing with you is a personal offense.

That is quite common now

disagreeing with argument = hate now

some people have even made a career out of it.