Watching the vote roll in

[Chyros]

GREAT.[/b]

Ah OK I see. Ironic brown font... We do have some pro-Trump people here though. We will have a "trump-free" DTA6 I can guarantee that much.

I'm a foreign liberal scientist intellectual who embraces equality, tolerance, emancipation and personal freedom. That means the only way I could go even lower in Trump's eyes if I were a woman and/or Mexican :p . So no, I can't exactly identify with the man or his policies xD .

[seebart]

But you also like to swear like a sailor!

[n__dles]

I guess Trump sees tariffs and a trade war as the only way to revitalize the American manufacturing sector. "Make foreign labor so expensive that we need to build shit here." I don't think he's wrong, but I am concerned about the fallout from such a decision.

I'm not huge into politics, so I might be wrong on this, but isn't this what Brazil has done? And consequently things like iPhones, PS4, clothes, cost 2 to 4 times their price in the US?

I live in Florida, the shopping malls in greater Miami are full of Brazillians with luggage. They put stuff in their suitcases as they buy it.

[ohaimark]

Oh yes, prices will skyrocket. Some Americans went into this knowing that a huge price hike was in the works.

On the other hand, a bunch of the non-college educated white population who voted for Trump will be utterly shocked if prices rise like mad. Next election cycle they'll be voting for someone who wants to reinstate every free trade agreement possible.

[Wodan]

The problem with the US is that it can't really compete with other nations' manufacturing costs, particularly in the Asian sphere.

Workers here demand more money and benefits, leading companies to move overseas. I thought that rising oil costs would drive work back here, but then the barrel price dropped under Obama.

I guess Trump sees tariffs and a trade war as the only way to revitalize the American manufacturing sector. "Make foreign labor so expensive that we need to build shit here." I don't think he's wrong, but I am concerned about the fallout from such a decision.

There are high wage countries that still do well on the global market. Look at Japan for example ... but the mentality is fundamentally different. Japanese mentality is to never stop improving in the pursuit of perfection where the American mentality is more like "Never touch a running system"
Closing your market makes you own industry lazy ... in a race where some American industries are behind the competition, instead of trying to catch up, the current course seems to be to take a rest. One day you have to open to the global market again ...

The growing global markets are in Asia and the biggest one is China. I don't want to appear naive about the potential of
China, long road ahead to become as big a market as the US, but they react very hostile in economical conflicts. And we have a popular proverb in Germany: "When two people fight, a third person will benefit"

Basically saying, no matter what conflict it is - the involved parties will all loose compared to someone not involved in the conflict.

[n__dles]

But you also like to swear like a sailor!

Since this has come up.. The swearing in your videos is really jarring. They're well made and have an academic feel, then unexpected f-bomb.

I had some raised eyes from my family when I was watching, I believe, the tactile green alps video. I only watch your videos with headphones on now.

Of course, they're your videos and it's not my place to tell you how to make them. I know you're probably aware of this, but I thought I'd give you feedback just in case.

edit: spelling

[ohaimark]

Japan also has an entirely different cultural background. America would do well to emulate some of their culture, though keeping the suicide rate down is worthwhile.

The problem with the American market is that many people care more about price than they do quality. To get manufacturing back into an economy that has become complacent and service based, some serious wrangling will need to occur.

In other words, our manufacturing industry isn't lazy. It's nonexistent. And even if we do bring manufacturing back to the US, it's going to be robots + people. I very much doubt that job creation levels will be worth the pain and loss of profits.

Hopefully Congress keeps Trump from doing anything too idiotic.

[n__dles]

I mean, why would Trump do that anyway? He said he would release his tax returns before November 8 and didn't*. He's already not keeping his promises. I think the only reason he said he'd bring manufacturing back to America, and many other things, is to appeal to uneducated white males.

Unless bringing manufacturing back to America is good for him personally I'm pretty sure he won't do it. To me, granted I'm fairly ignorant about business and globalization, it's not in his benefit for that to happen.

* Which is absurd since he went nut's over Obama's birth certificate.

[ohaimark]

Yep. I think he also scrubbed his pro-life stance from his website... Hmmmm. Wouldn't it be a shocker if he lied to his constituency about that?

It will be interesting to see what his *actual* policy decisions are. Maybe he'll reform himself and rise to the office, as he certainly doesn't deserve the position now. In my opinion, anyways.

[Wodan]

Lol yeah he's like the dog chasing a car and catching it

It's going to be a similair phase like the post-Brexit phase. Uncertainty is bad and will do damage no matter what the outcome is in the end. Until we all get a good idea what to expect from Trump, it will be negative for the economy/market in the US.

[fohat]

I think he also scrubbed his pro-life stance from his website.

Maybe he'll reform himself and rise to the office,

This would be an ideal and rational hope, but the flip side of the coin is the likelihood that he will shun any actual work and, like Reagan, only come to life to function in the spotlight.

My greatest fear is that he will hand off all the functions and proceedings to Pence, a truly hateful and horrible ideologue. And Ryan, and in his speech this morning, made a specific point about pressing forward the party platform, which includes complete immediate repeal of the Affordable Care Act without anything to replace it, total unconditional abortion ban, and "The Wall" along with a lot of other cheerful stuff such as permanent elimination of capital gains and inheritance taxes.

though keeping the suicide rate down is worthwhile.

I don't know whether daily suicide statistics are available in the US, but I would be curious whether they are spiking today.

[Chyros]

But you also like to swear like a sailor!

[seebart]

But you also like to swear like a sailor!

Since this has come up.. The swearing in your videos is really jarring. They're well made and have an academic feel, then unexpected f-bomb.I had some raised eyes from my family when I was watching, I believe, the tactile green alps video. I only watch your videos with headphones on now.

Uhh...best tone it down a bit for your north american audience Tom, you wouldn't want to upset the new Trump administration.

[ohaimark]

On a positive note, I think CNN did a surprisingly good job of covering the voting.

[n__dles]

he certainly doesn't deserve the position now. In my opinion, anyways.

He deserves it because he won. We live in a democracy, the American public is who to blame.

For me, him winning is far from the worst part. Even if he'd lost, as we all expected, I was ashamed at how primal this election was. Chants like 'lock her up' and 'jew-s.a.', dog whistles to the antisemites, having no realistic policy whatsoever, and not knowing anything: he couldn't name the leaders of any of the Islamic Terroist groups and couldn't differentiate between Hezbollah and Hamas, he didn't really understand what Brexit was 1 day before the vote.

I wasn't a big fan of Bush, but at least he was a rational, level headed adult. This is more than a silly Republican has won. This is about how gullible and lacking of critical thought Americans are.

[ohaimark]

Undeserving winners are a thing.

This is about how gullible and lacking of critical thought Americans are.

^ ^ ^ This. ^ ^ ^

[webwit]

This is about how gullible and lacking of critical thought Americans are.

If that was the case they would have elected Clinton. I don't think you understand why so many voted Trump.

[ohaimark]

Regardless of who was elected, I stand by the fact that Americans lack critical thinking skills.

[webwit]

Sure. But it was an anti-establishment vote of course.

[ohaimark]

Completely in agreement with you there. If this doesn't signal to Washington that they need to change how they're operating, I don't know what will.

[n__dles]

But you also like to swear like a sailor!

Since this has come up.. The swearing in your videos is really jarring. They're well made and have an academic feel, then unexpected f-bomb.I had some raised eyes from my family when I was watching, I believe, the tactile green alps video. I only watch your videos with headphones on now.

Uhh...best tone it down a bit for your north american audience Tom, you wouldn't want to upset the new Trump administration.

Trump swears at inappropriate moments, it's all good.

When I watch the AVGN or a Crime movie I expect to hear lots of swearing. When I watch a pop-science on Youtube, nevermind actual lectures, or a video on early early computing I don't.

Which do you think his videos are closest to?

No need to make broad sweeping generalizations about people. I would have thought people from your country had figured out why that's not a good idea; that's not a nice thing to say, and I normally wouldn't, but it illustrates my point about broadstroked comments.

[webwit]

But I like the fucks.Don't take away the fucks. Should it have more killing and nudity in these videos instead, which seems to be more acceptable in your culture?

[seebart]

When I watch the AVGN or a Crime movie I expect to hear lots of swearing. When I watch a pop-science on Youtube, nevermind actual lectures, or a video on early early computing I don't.

Which do you think his videos are closest to?

No need to make broad sweeping generalizations about people. I would have thought people from your country had figured out why that's not a good idea; that's not a nice thing to say, and I normally wouldn't, but it illustrates my point about broadstroked comments.

Chyros is not "from my country" and I am as usual (which you cannot know) being ironic. If Chyros wants to swear in his videos so be it, nothing wrong with that IMO.

[n__dles]

Chyros is not "from my country" and I am as usual (which you cannot know) being ironic. If Chyros wants to swear in his videos so be it, nothing wrong with that IMO.

Of course, they're your [Chyros's] videos and it's not my place to tell you how to make them. I know you're probably aware of this, but I thought I'd give you feedback just in case.

I know that he's English and your German.

I figured you were being ironic, but I guess I'm a little sensitive. I don't like how it's generally acceptable for people to mock Americans and hold them responsible for their governments choices even if the individual is opposed to those choices. Imagine, justly I must say, how people would react if comments like that were made about Blacks or Muslims.

I came down a bit harshly on you, and I regret that. But my reality is that I'm constantly judged for being an American. I travel abroad regularly, I know the next time I do that people will ask me who I voted for. I don't mind if it's a friendly discussion on politics. But people will be asking me this for years, it will be one of the first questions some will ask, and they'll be asking so they'll know if I'm one of the good ones or bad ones. Imagine someone asking a Muslim if they are against terrorism, which is the very same thing.

P.S.
Some might think I'm saying for being an American I suffer the same prejudice as minority groups, which I'm definitely not.

[Khers]

Chyros is not "from my country" and I am as usual (which you cannot know) being ironic. If Chyros wants to swear in his videos so be it, nothing wrong with that IMO.

Of course, they're your [Chyros's] videos and it's not my place to tell you how to make them. I know you're probably aware of this, but I thought I'd give you feedback just in case.

I know that he's English and your German.

He's Dutch though

[fohat]

signal to Washington

But it won't change. Signals get mixed and crossed and twisted.

The realistic signal is that the ultra-wealthy need to stop siphoning off the quality of the US and sending our jobs and money overseas. To accomplish this, they invest a portion of their wealth in purchasing (overwhelmingly Republican) politicians who give them a free ride to vacuum up all the money and have no social responsibilities.

The signal that will be spun out of this election is: Republicans = good and Democrats = bad

All camouflaged in a massive smoke screen of gays and guns and God and race.

[n__dles]

But I like the fucks.Don't take away the fucks. Should it have more killing and nudity in these videos instead, which seems to be more acceptable in your culture?

Your bias towards America is pathological, so normally I wouldn't waste my time replying. However, some of the things you said are so unorthodox and detached from reality that I have to point them out.

Should it have more .. nudity .. which seems to be more acceptable in your culture?

That's the opposite of both the stereotype (we're prudes remember?) and reality. The first sentence of the Wikipedia entry for Nudity in American television is "Nudity in American television has always been a controversial topic. Aside from a few exceptions, nudity in the United States has traditionally not been shown on terrestrial television."

Page 3 girls haven't been gone for long, and on British television, standard television you get by paying the TV tax, regularly has nudity on it. Never mind continental Europe, some countries show hardcore porn after midnight.

Aside from living and working with Britishers and maintaining friendships with some for more than a decade, the cumulative time I've spent in England adds up to the better part of a year. I've also lived 2/3rds of my life in America. I'm not trying to share my personal life with you, but the above is because I don't have any citation for the next point.

Without empirical evidence, but without any doubt whatsoever, 'fuck', especially when used as an adjective is incredibly more common in the US. There's not even a comparison, 'fucking' is as quintessentially American as 'Have a good day.'

You did get the violence part right.

Now baby don't be sad
don't be sad
Cuz one out of three aint bad
- Meatloaf (a stereotypical fat American!) with noodles

[webwit]

I could troll you more, but it's too easy with the "victim" type, especially when in tantrum. Although you do deserve it for this random rant against imagined anti-American racism. What the fuck.

[Chyros]

I really don't see what's so jarring about swearing. I don't understand why anyone would take the time and effort to get offended by something as trivial as that.

[webwit]

Also we mock everyone here, especially the Scottish and the French. *ducks*