Tipro symmetric stagger
- Minskleip
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
- Main mouse: CM Sentinel Storm
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: -
This is one of the 122 key Tipro keyboards 7bit got, equipped with a symmetric stagger layout. This layout is super! I only would like it to be more like a square and less like a trapezoid. This is my work keyboard; desoldered the buzzer
The left lower 1.5 key shifts to layer 3 which has numbers under DELETE and M<>JKLUIO. SYMB and NUMB switches between layer 1 and 4, which has symbols and numbers on the ESC row respectively. FUN switches to layer 2 - the HHKB layer. \| and ] are not swapped, I just didn't have matching keycaps.
The funny v2 key is C-F which is my prefix key in Stumpwm
Highly recommended!
The left lower 1.5 key shifts to layer 3 which has numbers under DELETE and M<>JKLUIO. SYMB and NUMB switches between layer 1 and 4, which has symbols and numbers on the ESC row respectively. FUN switches to layer 2 - the HHKB layer. \| and ] are not swapped, I just didn't have matching keycaps.
The funny v2 key is C-F which is my prefix key in Stumpwm
Highly recommended!
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
Minskleip wrote:This is one of the 122 key Tipro keyboards 7bit got, equipped with a symmetric stagger layout. This layout is super! I only would like it to be more like a square and less like a trapezoid. This is my work keyboard; desoldered the buzzer
It would have been so easy: Just remove the black cap and remove the plate inside. shut the cap and it will never beep again.
I see you need more keys in the FUNCTION kit.
What was underneath the black squares? Are these hotkeys to pron sites?
Does FUN serve as RETURN?
So what is RETURN?Minskleip wrote: FUN switches to layer 2 - the HHKB layer. \| and ] are not swapped, I just didn't have matching keycaps.
Also, which key caps do you need?
Last edited by 7bit on 09 Feb 2012, 21:14, edited 1 time in total.
- Minskleip
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
- Main mouse: CM Sentinel Storm
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Oh! The best part of that adventure was when I realised that I didn't have to desolder anything after all to disconnect the controller7bit wrote:
It would have been so easy: Just remove the black cap and remove the plate inside. shupt the cap and it will never bep again.
Haha no. It's 'confidential information about work' - what they do is change groups in stumpwm.7bit wrote:
I see you need more keys in the FUNCTION kit.
What was underneath the black squares? Are these hotkeys to pron sites?
Most of the blank keys have functions (or will have when I'm finished writing my stumpwm interface for tmux ), I'm just too lazy to make labels ...
- Minskleip
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
- Main mouse: CM Sentinel Storm
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Select, between G and H, is return!7bit wrote: Does FUN serve as RETURN?
So what is RETURN?Minskleip wrote: FUN switches to layer 2 - the HHKB layer. \| and ] are not swapped, I just didn't have matching keycaps.
Also, which key caps do you need?
For this layout I'd need a 1.5 unit ]}, normal colour; 1 unit \|, normal colour; 1.5 unit /?, normal colour. I think there is a asdf layer return in what I've ordered.
I think I'll use one of the 1.5 square/circle for the number switcher. Is there anything that might be used for stumpwm prefix (v2)? I'll have to look!
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
I'm using ETC from row 2 as return key for row 3.Minskleip wrote:Select, between G and H, is return!
For this layout I'd need a 1.5 unit ]}, normal colour; 1 unit \|, normal colour; 1.5 unit /?, normal colour. I think there is a asdf layer return in what I've ordered.
I think I'll use one of the 1.5 square/circle for the number switcher. Is there anything that might be used for stumpwm prefix (v2)? I'll have to look!
I can't remember why I did not include a RETURN or RET key in Round 3.
1 unit \| for row 2, lets see ...
grep vert orders*.val | grep slash | grep R2
orders_BLOOD.val:R2U150 |42|(\myvert,\mybackslash) |1
orders_NOIR.val:R2U150 | 48|(\myvert,\mybackslash) |1
orders_ORANJE.val:R2U150 | 54|(\myvert,\mybackslash) |1
orders_RETRO.val:R2U150 | 99|(\myvert,\mybackslash) COLORTWO|1
orders_RETRO.val:R2U150 |100|(\myvert,\mybackslash) |1
orders_ROUND3.val:R2U150 | 93|(\myvert,\mybackslash) COLORTWO|1
orders_ROUND3.val:R2U150 | 12|(\myvert,\mybackslash) |1
orders_SPH.val:R2U150 | 69|(\myvert,\mybackslash) COLORTWO|1
orders_SPH.val:R2U150 | 1|(\myvert,\mybackslash) |1
Shit!
I've got it for row 1, 3 and 4. Why not for row 2?
Oh well ...
Last edited by 7bit on 09 Feb 2012, 21:31, edited 1 time in total.
- Minskleip
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
- Main mouse: CM Sentinel Storm
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: -
It's very possible that something like that was in R3, but without a 1.5 ]} ..7bit wrote:1 unit \| for row 2, lets see ...
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No reason to put in more keys and make it even more expensive!
- 7bit
- Location: Berlin, DE
- Main keyboard: Tipro / IBM 3270 emulator
- Main mouse: Logitech granite for SGI
- Favorite switch: MX Lock
- DT Pro Member: 0001
Just send me a list.Minskleip wrote:Or a 1 unit row 4 back space I'm using delete instead.
For SPH the 1 unit keys are no problem, but the 1.5 units }] will be.
- Minskleip
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
- Main mouse: CM Sentinel Storm
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Alright, I'll have a look at it and compare with the current sets.7bit wrote:Just send me a list.Minskleip wrote:Or a 1 unit row 4 back space I'm using delete instead.
For SPH the 1 unit keys are no problem, but the 1.5 units }] will be.
- Minskleip
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
- Main mouse: CM Sentinel Storm
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: -
No, it was not that hard. The worst part is the shift keys, and I sometimes press select instead of h. Should have a stiffer spring there.Jim66 wrote:Very nice, have you had a hard time adjusting to it?
Regarding the symmetric staggering, it's just like a matrix layout except that the keycaps are not turned so the finger travel is slightly increased. I like this much more than the regular asymmetric layout.
- Minskleip
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro 2
- Main mouse: CM Sentinel Storm
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Webwit's post about the μTron's shift placements was the inspiration for the shift keys. And I thought that it would be better to change it more than less, to avoid confusion with regular keyboards.
- sordna
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Advantage LF / Dvorak layout
- Main mouse: Logitech M500
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Red
- DT Pro Member: -
Very nice, I like the shifts in the middle too. Currently added keys to my Kinesis to shift with the thumbs, anything to relieve the pinkies is good!