The *Ping*
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
- Contact:
- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
I'm not sure you have understood what the *Ping* Award is
ohaimark wrote: ↑[…]
Nomination rules:
Use this category to name the worst keyboard or input device related experience after Thursday 3 December, 2015. Anything goes. You must provide a short explanation for each suggestion. This category is named after the infamous Summer of Ping. […]
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
Sweet... I'm just excited that I finally have an excuse to try this "Foe" feature out. Thank you for that.
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
- Contact:
- PollandAkuma
- Location: London
- Main keyboard: keyboard
- Main mouse: mouse
- Favorite switch: switch
- DT Pro Member: -
how could a berserk fan do this >:( he's not a true berserk fan!davkol wrote:I'd like to nominate the user berserkfan for his majestic scam sale.
- tentator
- Location: ZH, CH
- Main keyboard: MX blue tentboard
- Main mouse: Pointing Stick
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Blue and Model F BS
- DT Pro Member: -
the Fold2000!!!! I owned one and I know what I'm talking about.... teerrriiblleeee, how even to think about doingo something like that? Just buy a 5$ rubberdome per week if needed..
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- Location: NC, USA
- Main keyboard: Realforce RF87UB 45g/FC660C
- Favorite switch: Topre 45g
- DT Pro Member: -
I just realized that MX Silvers are a thing. Who looked at MX Reds and said "we need to make the actuation point higher"? Reds already require almost no effort to press and they're trying to reduce the actuation point by half?
http://www.cherry.de/cid/MX_Technology. ... lver-level
http://www.cherry.de/cid/MX_Technology. ... lver-level
- bhtooefr
- Location: Newark, OH, USA
- Main keyboard: TEX Shinobi
- Main mouse: TrackPoint IV
- Favorite switch: IBM Selectric (not a switch, I know)
- DT Pro Member: 0056
- Contact:
Probably because Razer was advertising higher actuation with their Kailh switches, so Cherry had to compete.
- PollandAkuma
- Location: London
- Main keyboard: keyboard
- Main mouse: mouse
- Favorite switch: switch
- DT Pro Member: -
lmao why did you even buy ittentator wrote:the Fold2000!!!! I owned one and I know what I'm talking about.... teerrriiblleeee, how even to think about doingo something like that? Just buy a 5$ rubberdome per week if needed..
- PollandAkuma
- Location: London
- Main keyboard: keyboard
- Main mouse: mouse
- Favorite switch: switch
- DT Pro Member: -
i knew it, he was an imposterohaimark wrote:I dunno... If you're Gatts you wouldn't do something like that. But if you're Griffith? Awh heck yeah. You'd lie, cheat, and be a jerk in a heartbeat.
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
- DT Pro Member: -
Well they must've used a stiffer spring or something, because otherwise the actuation point wouldn't still be on 45 g :p .Hking0036 wrote: ↑I just realized that MX Silvers are a thing. Who looked at MX Reds and said "we need to make the actuation point higher"? Reds already require almost no effort to press and they're trying to reduce the actuation point by half?
http://www.cherry.de/cid/MX_Technology. ... lver-level
Tbh this is actually an innovation I completely understand. I think ALL Cherries should have higher actuation points, it's one of the (many many) things I like about Alps.
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- Location: US
- Main keyboard: Omnikey 102 Blackheart
- Main mouse: Kensington Expert Mouse
- Favorite switch: White Alps
- DT Pro Member: 0174
A small *ping* suggestion to the i-Rocks Alps-alike switch and board.
You made a new unique switch, and decide to focus mostly on the Lego-style case as a selling point.
You proceeded to market it with an Indiegogo campaign which clearly implied nobody in your organization has English as a first, second, or third language. And you're surprised it only sold like four units that way?
Perhaps it was the right decision, because when it finally showed, it turned to feel and sound NOTHING like an ALPS switch.
Count me as a disappointed backer who dragged out his Tactile Pro again.
You made a new unique switch, and decide to focus mostly on the Lego-style case as a selling point.
You proceeded to market it with an Indiegogo campaign which clearly implied nobody in your organization has English as a first, second, or third language. And you're surprised it only sold like four units that way?
Perhaps it was the right decision, because when it finally showed, it turned to feel and sound NOTHING like an ALPS switch.
Count me as a disappointed backer who dragged out his Tactile Pro again.
- Halvar
- Location: Baden, DE
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M SSK / Filco MT 2
- Favorite switch: Beam & buckling spring, Monterey, MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: 0051
- IvanIvanovich | For a group buy scam that shocked GeekHack.
- scottc
- ☃
- Location: Remote locations in Europe
- Main keyboard: GH60-HASRO 62g Nixies, HHKB Pro1 HS, Novatouch
- Main mouse: Steelseries Rival 300
- Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black
- DT Pro Member: -
Definitely agree, there's no need to turn this into a witch hunt. I'd like to think we're above that. The text comes across as a bit sensationalist.Halvar wrote: ↑Could you please edit this slightly derogatory summary? There's no reason to tag it as a GH problem IMHO. Lysol/IvanIvanovich was an active member of many years also on DT, and also quite an expert on vintage Cherry keyboards. A good part of his interest checks took place on DT, and his GBs had quite a lot of participants from all the community, including DT, Reddit and Asian boards.
- IvanIvanovich | For a group buy scam that shocked GeekHack.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0000
- Contact:
It wasn't a group buy scam, it didn't shock, and wasn't on GH?
What about this?
What about this?
IvanIvanovich | For a group buy scam unfortunate miscommunication in financial transactions that shocked that mildly interested GeekHack keyboard people, some of who may or may not visit particular sites.
- ohaimark
- Kingpin
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Siemens G80 Lookalike
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: Blue Alps
- DT Pro Member: 1337
I thought that the "abscond" primarily affected GH, as Ivan was a global mod at the time. I went with webwit's post because it preserves the original wording I chose in a snarky manner.
And as to The *Ping* being a witch hunt... This year it was inevitable and fair, to an extent. Some individual users seriously screwed over the community, either maliciously or through raw incompetence.
I'm not afraid of calling things how I see them, and I understand what IvanIvanovich did as a scam. I'm also not afraid to say that berserkfan's sale may have been a scam. At the very least it was a poorly executed mess.
See this for a fairly accurate picture of what went down:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84178.0
And as to The *Ping* being a witch hunt... This year it was inevitable and fair, to an extent. Some individual users seriously screwed over the community, either maliciously or through raw incompetence.
I'm not afraid of calling things how I see them, and I understand what IvanIvanovich did as a scam. I'm also not afraid to say that berserkfan's sale may have been a scam. At the very least it was a poorly executed mess.
See this for a fairly accurate picture of what went down:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=84178.0
- XMIT
- [ XMIT ]
- Location: Austin, TX area
- Main keyboard: XMIT Hall Effect
- Main mouse: CST L-Trac Trackball
- Favorite switch: XMIT 60g Tactile Hall Effect
- DT Pro Member: 0093
[ troll ] The Ping Award is still an award. [ / troll ]
Though, I'm somewhat offended to be on the same list as some of the others, given my work on the Hall boards and Secret Santa.
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- Location: CZ
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Advantage2, JIS ThinkPad,…
- Main mouse: I like (some) trackballs, e.g., L-Trac
- Favorite switch: #vintage ghost Cherry MX Black (+ thick POM caps)
- DT Pro Member: -
Wait until 7bit arrives and nominates himself for every award as usual. You'll be in good company then.
- ohaimark
- Kingpin
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Siemens G80 Lookalike
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: Blue Alps
- DT Pro Member: 1337
This category is meant as good fun. There's a bit of anger associated with it this year, so I'll take the tease down if you're truly offended.
I'm leaving the troll up there, though.
I'm leaving the troll up there, though.
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- Location: Germany
- DT Pro Member: -
I'm nominating iss and his 62/60. A great concept for a keyboard, which sadly was dropped without ANY sort of communication and with two of the pre-production/alpha boards waiting to be shipped.
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
- Contact:
Not sure that's a valid nomination, but your attitude is correct. I mean that, no irony.chuckdee wrote: ↑I nominate removing these two entries!92u | Hes memes r 2 dank foar us.
XMIT | For flouting the rules in DTA6 categories.
- XMIT
- [ XMIT ]
- Location: Austin, TX area
- Main keyboard: XMIT Hall Effect
- Main mouse: CST L-Trac Trackball
- Favorite switch: XMIT 60g Tactile Hall Effect
- DT Pro Member: 0093
As always I'll nominate Key Tronic Foam and Foil for being a miserable key switch. It has all the hallmarks of a great switch - featured on many great vintage boards, some with really nice spherical caps, moderate weight linear switches and capacitive sensing. It is ruined by an extremely brittle key cap mount and of course the notorious degrading foam.
Now, they are perfectly possible to repair - Apple Lisa enthusiasts have done this successfully many times:
http://lisa.sunder.net/Lukes_LISA_keyboard_repair.pdf
http://lisafaq.sunder.net/single.html#l ... -kb_repair
But, since I've been disappointed by them so many times - and have shot down so many hopes and dreams on the Great Finds thread by locating the FTxx sticker on many boards - these get the Ping.
Now, they are perfectly possible to repair - Apple Lisa enthusiasts have done this successfully many times:
http://lisa.sunder.net/Lukes_LISA_keyboard_repair.pdf
http://lisafaq.sunder.net/single.html#l ... -kb_repair
But, since I've been disappointed by them so many times - and have shot down so many hopes and dreams on the Great Finds thread by locating the FTxx sticker on many boards - these get the Ping.