Model MF - GB CLOSED
- E TwentyNine
- Main keyboard: AT Model F w/ Tenkeyless mod
- Main mouse: Logitech M310
- Favorite switch: Beam spring
- DT Pro Member: -
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Is that newline and extra quote intentional on the Soarer sticker?
(Edit: see the extra quote is outside the bound box, so that doesn't matter....)
(Edit: see the extra quote is outside the bound box, so that doesn't matter....)
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
It is... -ing it up a bit. The one to the left (outside the red line) is a mirror image of the image in every direction they must be using to eliminate any screw-ups with white space on the user's end. Ignore it.E TwentyNine wrote: ↑Is that newline and extra quote intentional on the Soarer sticker?
But yes... "On the Shoulders of Giants.\n"; was the desire
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
Can I ask a favor... as much as anything so that it is not me doing it... can someone make i$ an avatar? I have put something together as a fun little gift to everyone that participated in the GB, but I need everyone to have an avatar to make it work. I would make him something, but would prefer someone else did it "just cuz". Doesn't have to be legendary or anything, and I doubt he will ever use it, but since he is tied up for a while... he is either going to be left out (I don't want), or he needs an avatar. Just something simple that makes it obvious who it is.
If you feel more comfortable PMing me with whatever you come up with, that is fine too. I appreciate the help in advance.
If you feel more comfortable PMing me with whatever you come up with, that is fine too. I appreciate the help in advance.
- Darkshado
- Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
- Main keyboard: WASD V2 MX Clears (work); M, F, Matias, etc (home)
- Main mouse: Logitech G502 (work), G502 + CST L-Trac (home)
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring, SKCM Cream Dampened, MX Clear
- DT Pro Member: 0237
Didn't have one either, took a quick photo of one of my red «Échap» (Esc) keycaps, if you need something with more contrast let me know. (I have a yellow Pause cap with more punch.)lot_lizard wrote: ↑I need everyone to have an avatar to make it work.
FWIW, I vaguely recall a series of logo sketches from a project I$ was involved in, but couldn't find them using the DT search engine.
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
hahaha... I have never spoken with i$ on the phone, but this is my impression... am I close?!?
Playing. The reason for the avatar request is a couple of fold. I have one little sticker to celebrate our accomplishments as a group (think it turned out nice thanks to chzel). The second... I want to experiment a little. I want to use this opportunity to play a little more in the laser engraving space: other-f61/laser-engraving-key-caps-t148 ... ilit=laser
Each of you that participated in the GB will get an etched cap with your avatar similar to the following on the left (likely a 1u though). Not sure the color just yet, could be random. It gives me an excuse to experiment with numerous images and let me really dial that process in. Hopefully they produce nice results.
Playing. The reason for the avatar request is a couple of fold. I have one little sticker to celebrate our accomplishments as a group (think it turned out nice thanks to chzel). The second... I want to experiment a little. I want to use this opportunity to play a little more in the laser engraving space: other-f61/laser-engraving-key-caps-t148 ... ilit=laser
Each of you that participated in the GB will get an etched cap with your avatar similar to the following on the left (likely a 1u though). Not sure the color just yet, could be random. It gives me an excuse to experiment with numerous images and let me really dial that process in. Hopefully they produce nice results.
- Techno Trousers
- 100,000,000 actuations
- Location: California
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F-122
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Spring (Model F)
- DT Pro Member: 0159
Wow, that is super cool!! Even if it doesn't turn out perfectly, it'll be a unique little piece of keyboard bling.lot_lizard wrote: Each of you that participated in the GB will get an etched cap with your avatar similar to the following on the left (likely a 1u though). Not sure the color just yet, could be random. It gives me an excuse to experiment with numerous images and let me really dial that process in. Hopefully they produce nice results.
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
If it turns out completely ghetto for a given avatar, I'll reach out to that person asking if they would like to try something else. Again, when I thought about it... this was a great way to dial in that engraving process. It is currently SUPER close, but 5% differences in several areas I could tweak might make improvements, and I appreciate the opportunity to dial it in.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑Even if it doesn't turn out perfectly, it'll be a unique little piece of keyboard bling.
- Darkshado
- Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
- Main keyboard: WASD V2 MX Clears (work); M, F, Matias, etc (home)
- Main mouse: Logitech G502 (work), G502 + CST L-Trac (home)
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring, SKCM Cream Dampened, MX Clear
- DT Pro Member: 0237
That means I've got roughly the same problem as ohaimark... I'll try to think of something.
- Techno Trousers
- 100,000,000 actuations
- Location: California
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F-122
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Spring (Model F)
- DT Pro Member: 0159
You'll be allowed to put it anywhere on your MF. Except in the "A" position.ohaimark wrote:Funny thing... You'll be dying an IBM style cap and lasering an IBM XT A onto it.
- E TwentyNine
- Main keyboard: AT Model F w/ Tenkeyless mod
- Main mouse: Logitech M310
- Favorite switch: Beam spring
- DT Pro Member: -
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Wow. Great idea, thanks for doing it!
- micrex22
- Location: Canada
- Main keyboard: UltraNav
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: -
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Filco ZERO green alps, Model F 122 Terminal
- Main mouse: Ducky Secret / Roller Mouse Pro 1
- Favorite switch: MX Mount Topre / Model F Buckling
- DT Pro Member: 0167
Clear type did help on early poor quality LCD screens.
With a modern display or the kind of hardware smoothing a CRT does its pointless.
With a modern display or the kind of hardware smoothing a CRT does its pointless.
- livingspeedbump
- Not what they seem
- Location: North Carolina, USA
- Main keyboard: Realforce 87u 55g
- Main mouse: CST Trackball
- Favorite switch: 55g Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0122
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Well, it was time for a new avatar haha.
The only GB that gives you MORE than you ordered. No complaints about that haha.
The only GB that gives you MORE than you ordered. No complaints about that haha.
- tentator
- Location: ZH, CH
- Main keyboard: MX blue tentboard
- Main mouse: Pointing Stick
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Blue and Model F BS
- DT Pro Member: -
you see very nice avatars popping up very quickly!
anyway I also kind of find cleartype very funny especially with console fonts on a terminal window!!
I of course love 3270 terminal fonts.. one of my favourite fonts on terminals is the original amber on black of the old ampex terminals.. I thin the 210 series or so.. have to search.. most probably that font is now lost together with that term unfortunately..
of course not even close to some emulated ones try to simulate:
edit: found an ad of it
anyway I also kind of find cleartype very funny especially with console fonts on a terminal window!!
I of course love 3270 terminal fonts.. one of my favourite fonts on terminals is the original amber on black of the old ampex terminals.. I thin the 210 series or so.. have to search.. most probably that font is now lost together with that term unfortunately..
of course not even close to some emulated ones try to simulate:
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
- tentator
- Location: ZH, CH
- Main keyboard: MX blue tentboard
- Main mouse: Pointing Stick
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Blue and Model F BS
- DT Pro Member: -
I've a question, also to go back on topic..
The real plate will actually have at least one hole more than what I see on the picture on the first post, right? More or less where the red circle is, right?
Most probably also another hole under the space bar for that famous code key and maybe even a third for the space key next to the code key, am I right?
Basically I'd like to know if you have precise measurements of that bottom row, since I'm still fighting here with my unicomp based MF conversion (short space bar, menu key, 1.25 winkeys, actually also the alt keys are 1.25 unluckily!) that I'm doing in preparation for the real MF..
tent:wq
The real plate will actually have at least one hole more than what I see on the picture on the first post, right? More or less where the red circle is, right?
Most probably also another hole under the space bar for that famous code key and maybe even a third for the space key next to the code key, am I right?
Basically I'd like to know if you have precise measurements of that bottom row, since I'm still fighting here with my unicomp based MF conversion (short space bar, menu key, 1.25 winkeys, actually also the alt keys are 1.25 unluckily!) that I'm doing in preparation for the real MF..
tent:wq
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
There are actually three new holes. Before we had 1 key (spacebar) with 2 barrels. Now we have 3 keys with 2 needing stabilizers.
There are a lot of renders of the finals, but am purposely waiting until I can test our new controller with the revised PCBs I have in hand. I don't want to have to make further updates after announcing this next "final" round. I am literally holding my finger on the "buy 7 parts" button (not counting SSK/Full-Size variances), but I just need to verify the new the controller/PCB fit and function against everything.
We have refactored several things against the new controller since it is so nifty, but we want it right, and I don't like changing up things after announced as a "final". Sorry to be vague, but how I operate. Just know plans have been made to account for everything assuming it works (and we can be nimble as needed)... but won't be revealed until they are fully validated.
Again... there should be massive appreciation to WCass for turning this into something lovely (productized) on the tail end. Also, as a reminder, all unused holes in the top plate can be covered by 19mm sheet metal plugs
There are a lot of renders of the finals, but am purposely waiting until I can test our new controller with the revised PCBs I have in hand. I don't want to have to make further updates after announcing this next "final" round. I am literally holding my finger on the "buy 7 parts" button (not counting SSK/Full-Size variances), but I just need to verify the new the controller/PCB fit and function against everything.
We have refactored several things against the new controller since it is so nifty, but we want it right, and I don't like changing up things after announced as a "final". Sorry to be vague, but how I operate. Just know plans have been made to account for everything assuming it works (and we can be nimble as needed)... but won't be revealed until they are fully validated.
Again... there should be massive appreciation to WCass for turning this into something lovely (productized) on the tail end. Also, as a reminder, all unused holes in the top plate can be covered by 19mm sheet metal plugs
- fohat
- Elder Messenger
- Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
- Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
- Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
- Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0158
And to address tentator's question and to clarify (correct me if I'm wrong):
The space bar is the standard legacy 7u type, Right Shift and Code are 2.75u, Controls and Alts are legacy standard 1.5u, and the Windows keys that fit the gaps between Control and Alt are both 1u.
This is legacy Model M based gear, not those new-fangled Unicomp creations.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
All as it should be. This is an IBM restoration and evolution project!
For what it's worth: I'm going with the classic SSK layout for my MF. I know that layout well and it has proved itself many times in battle. As much as I like the look and concept of itty-bitty spacebars, I shine my spacebars on the right so I imagine I'd have a hard time adapting to the Code + 1.5u arrangement here. They meet right around my right thumb's hotspot. I did consider it though. Unlike those Windows keys!
As much as I appreciate the seamless bottom row layout on my Kishsaver, no way am I chopping an original SSK shell just to add extraneous modifiers. In my years on mechs, I've gotten so used to Control on Caps Lock (HHKB style, of course) that the winkeyless layout is second nature to me. Especially on the SSK. I even remap Caps Lock to Control on my modern boards so I don't drive myself nuts! It's a nice location for it.
But options are always nice. When I first got into IBMs, I'm sure I would have thought different.
For what it's worth: I'm going with the classic SSK layout for my MF. I know that layout well and it has proved itself many times in battle. As much as I like the look and concept of itty-bitty spacebars, I shine my spacebars on the right so I imagine I'd have a hard time adapting to the Code + 1.5u arrangement here. They meet right around my right thumb's hotspot. I did consider it though. Unlike those Windows keys!
As much as I appreciate the seamless bottom row layout on my Kishsaver, no way am I chopping an original SSK shell just to add extraneous modifiers. In my years on mechs, I've gotten so used to Control on Caps Lock (HHKB style, of course) that the winkeyless layout is second nature to me. Especially on the SSK. I even remap Caps Lock to Control on my modern boards so I don't drive myself nuts! It's a nice location for it.
But options are always nice. When I first got into IBMs, I'm sure I would have thought different.
Speaking of which: can I have some? And how easy are they to install / remove? Just in case I get ideas someday…lot_lizard wrote: ↑Also, as a reminder, all unused holes in the top plate can be covered by 19mm sheet metal plugs
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Filco ZERO green alps, Model F 122 Terminal
- Main mouse: Ducky Secret / Roller Mouse Pro 1
- Favorite switch: MX Mount Topre / Model F Buckling
- DT Pro Member: 0167
Winkeyless looks better , but the little space between control and alt is crying out for a win key one side and a Fn the other
- tentator
- Location: ZH, CH
- Main keyboard: MX blue tentboard
- Main mouse: Pointing Stick
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Blue and Model F BS
- DT Pro Member: -
Completely agree!andrewjoy wrote: ↑Winkeyless looks better , but the little space between control and alt is crying out for a win key one side and a Fn the other
The unicomp work is just to warm up.. also not loving that bottom row but would live with it because im interested in the nice trackpoint possibility that case offers to me.. so will just leave the bottom row as is.. but @lot_lizard: do you know if there is some tolerance accepted if the flippers are not completely centered above the capacitive sensing area and roughly if you already tested how much off it would still register? You know maybe there is some play..
Maybe one day I will be lucky enough to get one of those industrial m with trackpoint I think from Lexmark times?