It seems to me that "Optimus Maximus" appears the first time here in this thread - it definitely deserves to be mentioned. I'm curious not only about its key switch mechanism but also how the texture of its key cap feels - can roughen surface like those on PBT caps or ABS caps still allow decent display performance of these tiny OLED screens?Halvar wrote: ↑My list of ideal keyboards:Spoiler:2) IBM beamspring 3278A keyboard
"Your Fab Five" Keyboard Contest (Winner Announced)
- Menuhin
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB400BN lubed, has Hasu Bt Controller
- Main mouse: How to make scroll ring of Expert Mouse smoother?
- Favorite switch: Gateron ink lubed
- DT Pro Member: -
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
In the spirit "no rules", I'll buy this... but the scoring system is going to be weighted to who threw it out first. So if there is a "run-off", "2 to the power of" will be employed. So if 4 people submit duplicates, the first gets 8 lottery balls, second gets 4, third gets 2, and last gets 1. Then a random number generator will be used to generate the "lottery ball". Hopefully it doesn't come to "hanging chads", but I agree... no reason you can't like the same thing as someone else.
- Menuhin
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB400BN lubed, has Hasu Bt Controller
- Main mouse: How to make scroll ring of Expert Mouse smoother?
- Favorite switch: Gateron ink lubed
- DT Pro Member: -
davkol wrote: ↑One of their keyboards used Cherry ML IIRC.
Well at least a proof of concept that these tiny OLED caps can be implemented on top of Cherry switches.
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- Location: UK (Berkshire)
- Main keyboard: Cherry G84-4400 (work) / Tipro MID (home)
- Main mouse: Tiny trackball or laptop trackpad
- Favorite switch: Model M, until I try something rarer ;)
- DT Pro Member: -
Yep, that's the Maximus. The later Popularis was rubber-dome (and half the price).davkol wrote: ↑One of their keyboards used Cherry ML IIRC.
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
Just a reminder that submissions close today. Then we will vote until New Year's day, with the winner getting the following IBM AT Model F:
- photekq
- Cherry Picker
- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Various Cherry Corp keyboards
- Main mouse: Razer Deathadder (1st gen)
- Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black (55g springs)
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Saw this in the nick of time! In no particular order :
OTD 356CL
Cherry ESA-3000-HASRO
Cherry MX5000
Cherry G80-2000
IBM Industrial SSK
Honorable mentions :
Cherry G81-3000/3004SAT
Cherry G81-3000SAA
Various IBM beamsprings
OTD 356CL
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Cherry G81-3000/3004SAT
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- richfiles
- Location: MN, USA
- Main keyboard: Logitech DiNovo Edge
- Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Notebook Mouse
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Amber "Taxi Yellow"
- DT Pro Member: -
"75%+1" Danger Zone (with magnetically detachable number pad)
Apple //c featuring Alps SKCM Amber switches
Apple Extended Keyboard II
Univac Uniscope 100 terminal
(I wish I had a) Space Cadet
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This is my baby. My 75%+1 Danger Zone keyboard, with magnetically detachable number pad. Custom plates, hand wired, magnetically detachable number pad, cherry wrist rests, dyed gateron blue switches (with green springs on select keys). I have spent the past year building this. Only recently got the plate for the number pad, and am working on finishing it shortly, maybe this week even. I wanted a compact keyboard that made no sacrifices, and would take standard base key cap sizes. The solution was a 75% keyboard with one additional column set to the right side. This allows all standard size shifts and modifiers to be used, with a standard inverted T arrow arrangement, and provides 88 keys... Basically a TKL base key cap set, plus an artesian key. The number pad adds the convenience of easy numeral entry, plus an array of extra function keys that can be assigned. The main keyboard has basic page navigation, arrows, numbers, functions, and volume controls, along with a media eject key. Snap on the magnetic number pad, and a repurposed Apple MagSafe connector connects a port expander to the Teensy 2.0 inside the main keyboard. The result is a massive 122 key beast of a keyboard that holds nothing back. Pull off the number pad, and the keyboard is smaller than a TKL, and will fit nicely in a recess in the Kerbal Space Program controller/instrument panel that I'm building into my desk. This gives me keyboard access, and convenient access to joysticks and toggle controls on either side, plus meters, a navball (FDAI), and digital readouts on a vertical panel behind the controls. I have a set of typewriter key caps and black plates of identical design, for a future "Typewriter" version of this keyboard.
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This is the keyboard assembly salvaged from the extended memory revision of the Apple //c. It features Alps SKCM Amber switches, which are, by far, my favorite switch of all time. I intend to make it into a small bluetooth keyboard, with a tiny thumb operated trackball in the corner. Nothing in the MX line, by Cherry or any other brand, feels even remotely close to the feel of these keys. They have the most satisfying tactile feel, and the most satisfying sound... I can't describe the feel... Like a crunch, but solid and sudden... Not actually crunchy, maybe almost like a "sprung clunk"... I don't even know! Words don't describe tactile feels very well. I have a Chicony keyboard with Aristotle switches. It is nice, but still doesn't compare... And the only reason that's not on this list, is I've never taken pictures of it. Yet. Also, ignore the icky, mushy Logitech keyboard... That's what is getting replaced!
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Sorry for the obscured view of this Apple Extended Keyboard II. I was comparing custom plates for the above Danger Zone keyboard to it. Sorry, no bananas were used for scale, but the keyboard (sadly) is as yellowed as a banana, so I figured it could substitute for scale. I have not had an older Mac in operation for a while, except for my Twentieth Anniversary Mac, and it has it's own keyboard that matches it's style. As a result, this one has sat for quite some time.
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I got this keyboard a few years ago. It was from a Univac Uniscope 100 terminal. Don't have the rest of the terminal, just the keyboard. I had considered mounting this to the Kerbal Space Program controller I'm building, but instead opted for the recessed area for the Danger Zone keyboard mentioned above.
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This is the one keyboard in this list I do NOT have. It's such an amazing keyboard! I'd love to add it to my collection!
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- fohat
- Elder Messenger
- Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
- Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
- Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
- Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0158
Your choices can include "wish list" items.kevinhou wrote: ↑I am new here. I only have 2 keyboards now. Could I post the keyboards here?
- Harshmallow
- Location: Canada
- Main keyboard: Various (Home) / NMB RT-101+ Intel (Work)
- Main mouse: Logitech G600 (Home)/Logitech dime-a-dozen (Work)
- Favorite switch: 4323423
- DT Pro Member: 0187
I know I'm too late for this, but wasn't around much during the holidays. Here are my five anyway:
- My first is my Heath Zenith SWA 4300 - I just love the look, the layout, the keycaps and the feel of the low profile ITW switches - they feel like what a mechanical version of Topre would feel like - ie: firmer landing and a wonderful noise. And that badge - that badge is the best looking thing I've ever seen on a keyboard!Spoiler:
- My second pick is the Model F AT - I've always loved IBM and my model M, but I still don't have an F and absolutely need to try these switches at their best. My consolation for missing this contest is that I will get to order a new model F77 though Spoiler:
- My third pick would be the Topre uTron ergonomic keyboard. I've always wanted to really try to get familiar with an ergo keyboard, but I've never liked the half-assed examples from Microsoft/Logitech and this one truly looks like it was designed and engineered properly - the fact that it has my second favorite switch doesn't hurt either hehe.Spoiler:
- a NIB Gold Badge Omnikey - because I still haven't tried blue Alps, and I'm confident I will like them. Also because the Northgate is IMO the best looking Alps board and is sturdy/well built to boot.Spoiler:
- My last pick is the IBM 3278 Beamspring board. That loud AF noise is what I picture the typists in heaven sounding like if God had a mailroom. Oh, and make it either PS/2 or USB modded so that I can use it =DSpoiler:
- chuckdee
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Clueboard/RS Ver.B
- Main mouse: Logitech g900
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: 0151
My Choices include:
JD45 with Bluetooth (which I already have - just need a new case. I like the current one, but it's a bit unfinished)
MiniVan with Bluetooth (which I don't have, and don't think I'll create)
Z70 Mechanical Keyboard
Whitefox (need to finish building it)
LFK78 (working on it... still need to get the case done and negotiating with case guy - going for bent case with acrylic bottom)
JD45 with Bluetooth (which I already have - just need a new case. I like the current one, but it's a bit unfinished)
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LFK78 (working on it... still need to get the case done and negotiating with case guy - going for bent case with acrylic bottom)
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- Menuhin
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB400BN lubed, has Hasu Bt Controller
- Main mouse: How to make scroll ring of Expert Mouse smoother?
- Favorite switch: Gateron ink lubed
- DT Pro Member: -
Despite only 2 you have there, they're some of the iconic keyboards already!kevinhou wrote: ↑Thanks fohat.
-Dolch Pac
-SGI granite 9500900
Wish list
-IBM Model F AT
-IBM 3279 with black panel
-IBM SSK
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
Hey guys... sorry for the delay. All of the submissions were added to the second overall post, but I am having some issues in regardless to the format with the polling. Working out with our leaders to see what the possible formats can be. Voting will start soon, and I will make another post letting everyone know the polls are open.
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
Our leaders were nice enough to bump our poll options to 100 at least for the time being, and I was able to pair the listing down to 100 (we had more). If you were more granular in some of your original picks than the option listed (say zslane had a white space cadet and black space cadet as separate choices), you will receive votes for anything I consolidated (in the space cadet example, zslane will get 2 votes for a space cadet pick).
So for the voting, and this is on the honor system (all in fun), but I ask that you pick your TOP 10 boards. I am hoping those that would have submitted their "Fab Five" would pick those, plus 5 additional. This is not a hidden results poll, so feel free to track progress. Don't be a lame duck and ONLY vote for your original submission (otherwise this is pointless)... pick all 10 please if voting unless you REALLY only desire a subset.
Thanks again for the participation. It was a fun list to go through. Again... the 2nd OP has details if you are looking for pictures. I have a PHP script I put together that will process these results for me if you are wondering how we match it back up to the original submissions (it's tested and works).
Since this started a couple of days late, lets say the voting runs until 2017-01-03
So for the voting, and this is on the honor system (all in fun), but I ask that you pick your TOP 10 boards. I am hoping those that would have submitted their "Fab Five" would pick those, plus 5 additional. This is not a hidden results poll, so feel free to track progress. Don't be a lame duck and ONLY vote for your original submission (otherwise this is pointless)... pick all 10 please if voting unless you REALLY only desire a subset.
Thanks again for the participation. It was a fun list to go through. Again... the 2nd OP has details if you are looking for pictures. I have a PHP script I put together that will process these results for me if you are wondering how we match it back up to the original submissions (it's tested and works).
Since this started a couple of days late, lets say the voting runs until 2017-01-03
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
Actually it should have been... I certainly would have bumped MOST things on this list for it myself . Just went back through and your's and Orpheo's submissions were skipped (only ones... others were consolidated down). I did most of this on plane rides, but that is still a silly oversight that shouldn't have been made.marijan wrote: ↑Too bad the Knight keyboard didn't make it into the top 100. I guess I'll have to vote for little Space Cadet, then.
Again... apologize to you both, and will see what makes the most sense to make right. I'll PM
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
haha... pause the poll then. We'll get Knight in there as well along with Orpheo's. If you voted, sorry, you will need to revote then. Give me a few minutesRay wrote: ↑You have AEKII and Apple Extended Keyboard II 8[
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
Knight is in the poll now... I will reach out to Orpheo. He's out of the luck I'm afraid since we have enough votes in now that I really don't want to reset. AEKII screw-up is corrected as well.
EDIT: Adding the Knight in and getting rid of the AEKII shuffled a couple of my votes around a bit. If you previously voted, just verify if you would.
EDIT: Adding the Knight in and getting rid of the AEKII shuffled a couple of my votes around a bit. If you previously voted, just verify if you would.
- alh84001
- v.001
- Location: EU-HR-ZG
- Main keyboard: unsaver
- Main mouse: logitech m305 / apple trackpad
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: -
Voted. I placed 9 "real" votes, and one that would otherwise not make it, but it makes sense considering the prize MF had to suffer for it, but I disqualified it outright since I know the only reason for the contest is to have it be on top. I'm onto you!
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
hahaha... BUSTED!!! Not at all. Blame the other yahoos for submitting it. I do kinda hope in the end it goes to one of you MF'ers though so I can maybe squeeze it in the box without having to fork out more for shipping . Happy to see it go anywhere thoughalh84001 wrote: ↑Voted. I placed 9 "real" votes, and one that would otherwise not make it, but it makes sense considering the prize MF had to suffer for it, but I disqualified it outright since I know the only reason for the contest is to have it be on top. I'm onto you!
- photekq
- Cherry Picker
- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Various Cherry Corp keyboards
- Main mouse: Razer Deathadder (1st gen)
- Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black (55g springs)
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
Hey, it's worth noting that 'Cherry MX5000' and 'Cherry G80-5000' are the same thing. They're just different variations on the name - MX5000 being the model number, G80-5000 being the start of the article number.
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
I wondered that, but assumed the G80 must be the grandfather to the MX5000. We will consolidate those two then when we wrap up. Thanks for pointing out.photekq wrote: ↑Hey, it's worth noting that 'Cherry MX5000' and 'Cherry G80-5000' are the same thing. They're just different variations on the name - MX5000 being the model number, G80-5000 being the start of the article number.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0000
- Contact:
The first nominee shows a picture of the label of the V80-5000, not the G80-5000.
V80-5000:
vs G80-5000:
wiki/Cherry_V80-5000
V80-5000:
vs G80-5000:
wiki/Cherry_V80-5000
- lot_lizard
- Location: Minnesota
- Main keyboard: Indy SSK Model MF
- Main mouse: Logitech Anywhere MX
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- DT Pro Member: -
Appreciate you fixing the poll option Webwit. Just curious, how does the "ergo experience" compare to the M15? The switches and adjustment mechanics themselves are obviously different, but curious more about the usefulness of the spacebar extension and just general build quality between the two. I know the timing of both were very similar.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Solid lineup, but I'm wincing at the needless fragmentation in the Realforce vote. Jill Stein's already warming up her rules lawyers!
Anyway, a handful of unimportant "ermmn, actually, turns out" notes about my own nominations:
Anyway, a handful of unimportant "ermmn, actually, turns out" notes about my own nominations:
- My HHKB Pro Type-S does indeed star a Matt3o PBT spacebar. But it's neither Hasu'd nor Cookied (yet). Been too busy to even apply the stickers! Don't know if I'll ever replace the controller though. That little gem is in constant action and I can't bear the idea of screwing it up!
- I nominated the IBM Model M SSK in general. Don't know which if any of mine are 1391472. Half a world away from them to check… In any case, I consider the industrial to be the same keyboard. A mere colour scheme choice does not a whole other entrant make. I didn't specify white or black Realforce or HHKB now did I!
- My SSK nomination mentioned Model F insides, so it totally counts for all those craven Model MF votes.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0000
- Contact:
The spacebar extension is only mildly useful, I don't tend to hit my thumb into the area it extends to. These boards are both "cheapenings" of former build quality, for cheap mass-production. The M15 is built according to the M2 philosophy, although the case is better than the M2. Both the M15 and the G80-5000 are made of thin plastic with modest, simple insides. But the M15 still is better and sturdier. If it wasn't Cherry and wasn't ergonomic, the G80-5000 could be like a $10 Taiwanese keyboard that went with PCs at the time. Only thing that Cherry did and IBM didn't is make a special switch for it (the MX Brown).lot_lizard wrote: ↑Appreciate you fixing the poll option Webwit. Just curious, how does the "ergo experience" compare to the M15? The switches and adjustment mechanics themselves are obviously different, but curious more about the usefulness of the spacebar extension and just general build quality between the two. I know the timing of both were very similar.