Great/Interesting Finds

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alh84001
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20 Feb 2017, 18:53

I think that someone here had the option of taking this board for $300 after the original winner backed out, but in the end they declined too, as with the benefit of hindsight, they concluded it was too much. I may have dreamt all about it though, so take it with a grain of salt :)

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seebart
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20 Feb 2017, 18:59

alh84001 wrote: I think that someone here had the option of taking this board for $300 after the original winner backed out, but in the end they declined too, as with the benefit of hindsight, they concluded it was too much. I may have dreamt all about it though, so take it with a grain of salt :)
Yeah last week I think. This will go $$$ no doubt.

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Chyros

20 Feb 2017, 20:03

seebart wrote: I still say Key Tronic Tom...but I won't say it's FF like this one is where you can see the LED position is exactly the same ;)
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Ah, yeah, it mgiht be the older model. Strange, really - did that model ever come with a tactile sleeve? Because according to the wiki (and one of their old adverts) they offered tactile first and then linear - but I've never seen that type, with the tall slider well, in a tactile variant.

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seebart
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20 Feb 2017, 20:13

Chyros wrote: Ah, yeah, it mgiht be the older model. Strange, really - did that model ever come with a tactile sleeve? Because according to the wiki (and one of their old adverts) they offered tactile first and then linear - but I've never seen that type, with the tall slider well, in a tactile variant.
Of course that CHYRON is old Key Tronic if indeed it is Key Tronic, to me the font looks at least similair. Regarding the tactile sleeve I cannot answer your question, unfortunately I don't own any tactile Key Tronic. Coming back to the LED postition I can tell you they varied that also, on my other blue Key Tronic the LED postition is center on the keycap not on the right hand side. I bet mr_A500 would know.
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cumwagondeluxe

20 Feb 2017, 20:29

alh84001 wrote: I think that someone here had the option of taking this board for $300 after the original winner backed out, but in the end they declined too, as with the benefit of hindsight, they concluded it was too much. I may have dreamt all about it though, so take it with a grain of salt :)
Yep, was me. More interested in getting clean blue alps if I'm paying $300+ than I am getting a rare keyboard that has them but in questionable condition, so I let em go. Might pick up the DC-2014 if it goes for <200, though.

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mike52787
Alps Aficionado

20 Feb 2017, 20:36

cumwagondeluxe wrote:
alh84001 wrote: I think that someone here had the option of taking this board for $300 after the original winner backed out, but in the end they declined too, as with the benefit of hindsight, they concluded it was too much. I may have dreamt all about it though, so take it with a grain of salt :)
Yep, was me. More interested in getting clean blue alps if I'm paying $300+ than I am getting a rare keyboard that has them but in questionable condition, so I let em go. Might pick up the DC-2014 if it goes for <200, though.
That dc-2014 looks dirtier than the monterey was...

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Tuntematon

20 Feb 2017, 20:58

cumwagondeluxe wrote:
alh84001 wrote: I think that someone here had the option of taking this board for $300 after the original winner backed out, but in the end they declined too, as with the benefit of hindsight, they concluded it was too much. I may have dreamt all about it though, so take it with a grain of salt :)
Yep, was me. More interested in getting clean blue alps if I'm paying $300+ than I am getting a rare keyboard that has them but in questionable condition, so I let em go. Might pick up the DC-2014 if it goes for <200, though.
Anywhere near $200 is too much. You can typically get these for ~$150 shipped (U.S.) at auction in reasonable condition and they come up for sale pretty regularly. I think $150 would be too much given the condition of this one.

cumwagondeluxe

20 Feb 2017, 21:28

Tuntematon wrote:
cumwagondeluxe wrote:
alh84001 wrote: I think that someone here had the option of taking this board for $300 after the original winner backed out, but in the end they declined too, as with the benefit of hindsight, they concluded it was too much. I may have dreamt all about it though, so take it with a grain of salt :)
Yep, was me. More interested in getting clean blue alps if I'm paying $300+ than I am getting a rare keyboard that has them but in questionable condition, so I let em go. Might pick up the DC-2014 if it goes for <200, though.
Anywhere near $200 is too much. You can typically get these for ~$150 shipped (U.S.) at auction in reasonable condition and they come up for sale pretty regularly. I think $150 would be too much given the condition of this one.
Ah, yeah, I guess I should've specified $200CAD. Hoping this doesn't go beyond about 130USD so that it hits right around 200cad with shipping. Would be cool to get a super clean one later on so that I can compare clean/sonicated (maybe even lubed with some PTFE based lube if they're bad enough?) blues with stock ones in good condition.

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seebart
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20 Feb 2017, 21:37

130USD would be tolerable by todays prices if it's in decent condition, the biggest problem is that you cannot estimate how worn those blue Alps are. Remember that really worn blue Alps (or any Alps SKCM / SKCL) cannot be rejuvenated, cleaning and lubing might help but depending on how worn they are it's then just really damage control. This is the biggest downside of Alps SKCM vs. say Cherry MX or Topre for example. Just be aware of this when you spend your money!

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Tuntematon

20 Feb 2017, 22:29

$200 CAD is more reasonable. If you have the patience, I would still wait for something nicer :)

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ideus

20 Feb 2017, 23:34

It is very interesting to know that MX's reliability could outlast Alps'.

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Tuntematon

20 Feb 2017, 23:43

ideus wrote: It is very interesting to know that MX's reliability could outlast Alps'.
The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long :D

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taylorswiftttttt

21 Feb 2017, 00:46

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Elrick

21 Feb 2017, 02:24

taylorswiftttttt wrote: Terminal (displaywriter maybe) SSK
http://www.ebay.com/itm/132102477823?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
The seller has a 97.4% feedback rating hence understand who you are buying from first 8-) .

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fohat
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21 Feb 2017, 02:37

Elrick wrote:
The seller has a 97.4% feedback rating hence understand who you are buying from first
Kind of funny when 37 good reviews + 1 bad review = a bum reputation.

All the more surprising considering the old saying in sales that if you do a good job for a customer they will tell 2 of their friends, but if you do a bad job they will tell 10 of their friends.

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

21 Feb 2017, 12:38

fohat wrote:
Elrick wrote:
The seller has a 97.4% feedback rating hence understand who you are buying from first
Kind of funny when 37 good reviews + 1 bad review = a bum reputation. […]
Well, in the last 12 months this particular seller had 549 positive, 5 neutral and (as can be seen here) 14 negative feedback.

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fohat
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21 Feb 2017, 14:26

kbdfr wrote:
Well, in the last 12 months this particular seller had 549 positive, 5 neutral and 14 negative feedback.
I was reducing it to the simplest ratio, and did not even look at the details of this particular situation.

As an ebay seller of various categories, keyboards being only 1, I can tell you that buyers have become significantly more demanding and irrational in recent years. I have maintained perfect 100% positive ratings on all 3 of my accounts, but I have had to defend myself a few times.

As a buyer, if I see 3 "similar" items at $100, $75, and $50, logic tells me that the $100 specimen is likely pristine, the $75 one is probably average, and the cheap one may well be pretty shabby. Nowadays, however, it seems like buyers often select the cheapest one yet try to hold it to the highest standards, "just because"

I know that there are legions of shady sellers and buyers out there, and much sloppy business, but for me, grading and description in the sub-mint categories is a real mine field for both sides.
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fohat
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21 Feb 2017, 14:28

double post, sorry

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Harshmallow

21 Feb 2017, 21:33

fohat wrote:
kbdfr wrote:
Well, in the last 12 months this particular seller had 549 positive, 5 neutral and 14 negative feedback.
I was reducing it to the simplest ratio, and did not even look at the details of this particular situation.

As an ebay seller of various categories, keyboards being only 1, I can tell you that buyers have become significantly more demanding and irrational in recent years. I have maintained perfect 100% positive ratings on all 3 of my accounts, but I have had to defend myself a few times.

As a buyer, if I see 3 "similar" items at $100, $75, and $50, logic tells me that the $100 specimen is likely pristine, the $75 one is probably average, and the cheap one may well be pretty shabby. Nowadays, however, it seems like buyers often select the cheapest one yet try to hold it to the highest standards, "just because"

I know that there are legions of shady sellers and buyers out there, and much sloppy business, but for me, grading and description in the sub-mint categories is a real mine field for both sides.
Having worked in customer service for a few automobile manufacturers, I can definitely agree with that statement. I think people are just far more informed than they used to be (too well informed in many cases) and it gives them a disproportionate sense of what does and does not constitute a defect or 'known issue'. For instance, an average person might think that finding 4-5 results in public user forums with other owners sharing a similar problem would mean that's a big, well known problem. But if only 6 people are reporting it out of a possible 500.000 owners of that model (example), then it may not be a big problem at all.

I've regularly had customers call and make demands for 10+ year old cars. No matter how old or high mileage, that person would almost always say 'Well, I could understand if it were 15 years old or 300,000km, but mine is ONLY 10 years old and 200,000km!' The eBay feedback scores remind me of how the CSI scores work for auto dealers - remember! If you can't give me 10/10 perfect scores, I'm a failure! Why should they be held to such impossible standards in the first place? That just means most of their customer feedback will be lies/faked.

Ok yeah, back to keyboards. I like keyboards :)

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21 Feb 2017, 22:12


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Harshmallow

21 Feb 2017, 23:48

I believe this was the Magnavox board that sat on Ebay for a long time with a high BIN price. Seems the seller decided to try auction style this time around...check out the listing title - they randomly threw 'ibm' in at the end of the title even though this has absolutely nothing to do with an IBM. Gotta get them buyers somehow!

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/232241444503?_tr ... .S1.R1.TR3

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ohaimark
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22 Feb 2017, 01:14


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E3E

22 Feb 2017, 01:15

Whoever got this Tandem: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tandem-Computer ... true&rt=nc

Please do tell us if you get Striped Ambers or SKCL Browns. I was very tempted to buy it, but I don't -need- either now.

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Tuntematon

22 Feb 2017, 01:20

This seller had a few Tandem boards I was watching, this and another. Both gone now. Nothing good lasts on eBay! :(

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ohaimark
Kingpin

22 Feb 2017, 01:24

It's because it was posted in the Members' EG/IF thread. ;)

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//gainsborough
ALPSの日常

22 Feb 2017, 01:24

Tuntematon wrote: This seller had a few Tandem boards I was watching, this and another. Both gone now. Nothing good lasts on eBay! :(

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tandem-Computer ... Swax5YrLXO

at least one is still there!

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//gainsborough
ALPSの日常

22 Feb 2017, 01:26


cumwagondeluxe

22 Feb 2017, 01:26

E3E wrote: Whoever got this Tandem: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tandem-Computer ... true&rt=nc

Please do tell us if you get Striped Ambers or SKCL Browns. I was very tempted to buy it, but I don't -need- either now.

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God damn, another keyboard I missed out on walking home from work. Was considering buying it but then saw that it'd been up for 2 hours already so I assumed it'd be safe to wait until I got home to decide to buy. For some reason I thought it was SKCM browns, which made me question buying it since I've already got two SKCM brown boards on the way but knowing that I missed out on the chance to buy an SKCL brown board for a good price.. ouch :(

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Tuntematon

22 Feb 2017, 01:30

ohaimark wrote: It's because it was posted in the Members' EG/IF thread. ;)
Goddamn elitists!

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ohaimark
Kingpin

22 Feb 2017, 01:30

I actually broke a sweat as I raced to buy the seller's G80-1080HAU. :lol:

No shame here -- I'm the Kingpin, after all.

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