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Great/Interesting Finds
- MrDuul
- Location: ARIZONA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F Unsaver
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Ah ok you are right.
I just need these switches ok? No hard feelings I will take pictures and add to wiki
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162541800054?_t ... 1758.m4704
I just need these switches ok? No hard feelings I will take pictures and add to wiki
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162541800054?_t ... 1758.m4704
- MrDuul
- Location: ARIZONA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F Unsaver
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Here is a great find,
Vintage Acer kb-101a keyboard (skcm blue alps) $360.00 + $15 ship.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Acer-kb ... SwY3BZLh5A
From the seller:
"This board was originally meant to be a custom SKCM amber alps build - but after trying it out for a few weeks, I decided amber alps are a little too harsh for me. I spent a lot of time on this board making it look nice - here are the things I did to improve the board:
- hand cleaned each blue alps switch
- sand-blasted and painted the switch mounting plate
- replaced the thin ABS acer caps with double shot Tai Hao switches for the RGB writing on some modifier keys
- replaced the spacebar switch with an SKCM amber switch
- replaced the broken cable that came with the board (the current cable is from an acer 6011)"
Vintage Acer kb-101a keyboard (skcm blue alps) $360.00 + $15 ship.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Acer-kb ... SwY3BZLh5A
From the seller:
"This board was originally meant to be a custom SKCM amber alps build - but after trying it out for a few weeks, I decided amber alps are a little too harsh for me. I spent a lot of time on this board making it look nice - here are the things I did to improve the board:
- hand cleaned each blue alps switch
- sand-blasted and painted the switch mounting plate
- replaced the thin ABS acer caps with double shot Tai Hao switches for the RGB writing on some modifier keys
- replaced the spacebar switch with an SKCM amber switch
- replaced the broken cable that came with the board (the current cable is from an acer 6011)"
Last edited by MrDuul on 05 Jun 2017, 23:17, edited 1 time in total.
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- Location: New Jersey
- Main keyboard: Ergodox
- Main mouse: Razer Naga
- Favorite switch: Box Jade
- DT Pro Member: -
I am a bit suspicious of cleaned alps switches. Because it means they were compelled to clean out the switches that they thought were scratchy and you cant take the scratchyness from alps.
- ekeppel
- Location: Maine, USA
- Main keyboard: IBM 5251 Frankenbeam XT w/ Modified Layout
- Favorite switch: Beamspring > Capacitive BS > Alps SKCM Brown > U4T
- DT Pro Member: -
Same on the mounting plate. Why did it need to be sandblasted unless it was crusty and rusty to begin with? That alone would make the switches suspect.codemonkeymike wrote: ↑I am a bit suspicious of cleaned alps switches. Because it means they were compelled to clean out the switches that they thought were scratchy and you cant take the scratchyness from alps.
- wobbled
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB300 Pro 1
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Master 3
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0192
for any other Brits out there, here's a cheap at102w in great condition and also a good condition model m ISO
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-IBM-K ... SwYvFZIdOF
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-AT102W-v ... Swq1JZMHtd
And agreed with codemonkeymike, it seems the seller put a lot of work into that keyboard, that instantly makes me wonder why he did. If it was in good condition in the first place you wouldn't need to put so much work in to it, and we all know alps keyboards in bad condition should be avoided due to the switches feeling like shit. Not to mention the seller knows exactly what he's selling and he's asking a shit load of money for it. I wouldn't go for it even if I had the money.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-IBM-K ... SwYvFZIdOF
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-AT102W-v ... Swq1JZMHtd
And agreed with codemonkeymike, it seems the seller put a lot of work into that keyboard, that instantly makes me wonder why he did. If it was in good condition in the first place you wouldn't need to put so much work in to it, and we all know alps keyboards in bad condition should be avoided due to the switches feeling like shit. Not to mention the seller knows exactly what he's selling and he's asking a shit load of money for it. I wouldn't go for it even if I had the money.
- Techno Trousers
- 100,000,000 actuations
- Location: California
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F-122
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Spring (Model F)
- DT Pro Member: 0159
"para coleccionistas o fanáticos de la informática". Lol. Yo soy un fanático, de veras!
- MrDuul
- Location: ARIZONA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F Unsaver
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
"For collectors or computer fans". LOL. I am a fanatic, really!Techno Trousers wrote: ↑"para coleccionistas o fanáticos de la informática". Lol. Yo soy un fanático, de veras!
Is this for the whole terminal?
- MrDuul
- Location: ARIZONA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F Unsaver
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Rare Vintage Epson Equity Computer Q503A computer keyboard made in Japan
Is this Fujitsu Leaf Spring switch?
$40 free ship
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-Ep ... SwUKxYZIqR
Is this Fujitsu Leaf Spring switch?
$40 free ship
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-Ep ... SwUKxYZIqR
- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
eBay assigns a different code to the same buyer in the bid history and in the seller's feedback.snuci wrote: ↑[…] Incidentally, b***a is also known as g***l. For some reason, older auctions show those two letters.
Here for example the highest bidder in this G80-2100 sale is coded differently in the bid history and in the seller's feedback.
Moreover, a different code can be shown depending on from where you access the bid history:
http://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/172655 ... 7675.l2565
http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 7675.l2565
This is a consistent eBay feature.
- Scottex
- Location: Spain, Madrid
- Main keyboard: Realforce 55g TKL
- Main mouse: Logitech G500
- Favorite switch: IBM Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
- nsmechkb
- Location: ON, CA
- Main keyboard: W: FC660C H: Model F AT
- Favorite switch: Maybe Capacitive Buckling Springs.
- DT Pro Member: 0202
Congratulations! What a nice find.
Thanks for sharing, cml!
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- Location: Spain - Seville
- Main keyboard: IBM model M
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring.
- DT Pro Member: -
Hello everyone! My first post in this fantastic community.
A newbie question: is that a beamspring? It seems they have three of them:
http://es.wallapop.com/item/ibm-de-1980 ... 0-64357555
- ekeppel
- Location: Maine, USA
- Main keyboard: IBM 5251 Frankenbeam XT w/ Modified Layout
- Favorite switch: Beamspring > Capacitive BS > Alps SKCM Brown > U4T
- DT Pro Member: -
Yes indeed. Nice find, and welcome:-)unoquepasa wrote: ↑Scottex wrote: ↑
Hello everyone! My first post in this fantastic community.
A newbie question: is that a beamspring? It seems they have three of them:
http://es.wallapop.com/item/ibm-de-1980 ... 0-64357555
Edit: Here's a link from the DT Wiki on this system (including info on the keyboard)
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ ... _Dec77.pdf
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- Location: Spain - Seville
- Main keyboard: IBM model M
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring.
- DT Pro Member: -
Thank you.ekeppel wrote: ↑Yes indeed. Nice find, and welcome:-)unoquepasa wrote: ↑Scottex wrote: ↑
Hello everyone! My first post in this fantastic community.
A newbie question: is that a beamspring? It seems they have three of them:
http://es.wallapop.com/item/ibm-de-1980 ... 0-64357555
It seems scottex might be very busy. Madrid is relatively near from Ontígola.
- Harshmallow
- Location: Canada
- Main keyboard: Various (Home) / NMB RT-101+ Intel (Work)
- Main mouse: Logitech G600 (Home)/Logitech dime-a-dozen (Work)
- Favorite switch: 4323423
- DT Pro Member: 0187
MrDuul wrote: ↑Here is a great find,
Vintage Acer kb-101a keyboard (skcm blue alps) $360.00 + $15 ship.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Acer-kb ... SwY3BZLh5A
From the seller:
"This board was originally meant to be a custom SKCM amber alps build - but after trying it out for a few weeks, I decided amber alps are a little too harsh for me. I spent a lot of time on this board making it look nice - here are the things I did to improve the board:
- hand cleaned each blue alps switch
- sand-blasted and painted the switch mounting plate
- replaced the thin ABS acer caps with double shot Tai Hao switches for the RGB writing on some modifier keys
- replaced the spacebar switch with an SKCM amber switch
- replaced the broken cable that came with the board (the current cable is from an acer 6011)"
You guys all know you're commenting on and kind of crapping on Gainsborough's hard work, right? He has this board listed for less on our very own forums, and I would trust he put the work into it because he loves the board - if he says the switches are working and feel good, who are we to doubt that? Even if I had a board with Alps switches in good condition, I would still take the tops off and clean them out and make sure to clean the board inside and out, because this is my hobby and I love doing it.
- subcat
- Location: Australia
- Main keyboard: HHKB Professional
- Main mouse: Zowie EC2-A
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
What a strange notion, and untrue. The restoration aspect of this hobby revolves around going into the most intimate of detail to bring the keyboard back into top shape, and when it comes to ALPS SKCL/M, unless the board is practically NIB they are never in top shape. He had the means to clean them, so he did. I don't really understand the point.codemonkeymike wrote: ↑I am a bit suspicious of cleaned alps switches. Because it means they were compelled to clean out the switches that they thought were scratchy and you cant take the scratchyness from alps.
Regarding being unable to remove the scratchiness from them, you can strongly improve them with an ultrasonic cleaner. Of course there exists a point where they are beyond help, but that's Taobao territory
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- Location: New Jersey
- Main keyboard: Ergodox
- Main mouse: Razer Naga
- Favorite switch: Box Jade
- DT Pro Member: -
Does he have the means to clean them? What do you define as top shape? The way I see it is that I don't know his process and it is generally right to assume that most people would choose to not open up a switch if it felt not scratchy as there are less crazy "clean everything down to the pcb" type people in the world then one may think.subcat wrote: ↑ The restoration aspect of this hobby revolves around going into the most intimate of detail to bring the keyboard back into top shape, and when it comes to ALPS SKCL/M, unless the board is practically NIB they are never in top shape. He had the means to clean them, so he did. I don't really understand the point.
Alps have a higher surface area with the contacts so they have more points of wear wether that leads to more scratchiness is a point of contention. I have an ultra sonic cleaner and I know it can only do so much. Anecdotally I have not been able to improve a switch to the point were it would be close enough to new or lightly used to be acceptable for me.subcat wrote: ↑Regarding being unable to remove the scratchiness from them, you can strongly improve them with an ultrasonic cleaner. Of course there exists a point where they are beyond help, but that's Taobao territory
- subcat
- Location: Australia
- Main keyboard: HHKB Professional
- Main mouse: Zowie EC2-A
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
I guess I would define 'top shape' as lightly used or new, as you said. They are nototious for being more susceptible to dust and dirt (as I'm sure you know) and the general consensus from alps fanatics is that most of the time the switches they get are noticeably worn, but that's usually improved by the ultrasonic process. Gains has a big ol ultrasonic cleaner, so why not throw em in there?codemonkeymike wrote: ↑Does he have the means to clean them? What do you define as top shape? The way I see it is that I don't know his process and it is generally right to assume that most people would choose to not open up a switch if it felt not scratchy as there are less crazy "clean everything down to the pcb" type people in the world then one may think.subcat wrote: ↑ The restoration aspect of this hobby revolves around going into the most intimate of detail to bring the keyboard back into top shape, and when it comes to ALPS SKCL/M, unless the board is practically NIB they are never in top shape. He had the means to clean them, so he did. I don't really understand the point.
Alps have a higher surface area with the contacts so they have more points of wear wether that leads to more scratchiness is a point of contention. I have an ultra sonic cleaner and I know it can only do so much. Anecdotally I have not been able to improve a switch to the point were it would be close enough to new or lightly used to be acceptable for me.subcat wrote: ↑Regarding being unable to remove the scratchiness from them, you can strongly improve them with an ultrasonic cleaner. Of course there exists a point where they are beyond help, but that's Taobao territory
Anyway, regardless of all that I don't agree with the way people jumped to conclusions in this thread under the pretense of basically nothing. If you had queries about the condition of the switches you could have just asked him, he would no doubt reply honestly.
- DoctorDubplate
- Location: United Kingdom
- Main mouse: Logitech G500s
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
- DT Pro Member: 0188
@codemonkeymike @ekkepel
Of course the board was dusty, that's why I cleaned it. The plate had minor rust spots, and I didn't want to hand sand it, so I had it blasted to save time, and plus I wanted to re-paint the plate anyway because I think it looks really nice with the color I used. The switches were also dusty, that's true, which is why I cleaned all of them. None of the dust caused any irreversible damage to sliders and top housing rails - I actually haven't run into any switches bad enough to not benefit greatly from being cleaned yet *knocks on wood* - though, I also haven't purchased any taobao level switches.
As I said in my [WTS] post, the switches are certainly not on high tier/unused blue alps level - the board was purchased used, so that was never going to be the case anyway - I do, however, feel that they are good representatives of blue alps. This community has done so much for me, I would never try to deceive community members into buying a shitty keyboard.
If there are questions about the board, though, I will certainly reply to any PMs.
@harshmallow @subcat
appreciate it, dudes =)
Of course the board was dusty, that's why I cleaned it. The plate had minor rust spots, and I didn't want to hand sand it, so I had it blasted to save time, and plus I wanted to re-paint the plate anyway because I think it looks really nice with the color I used. The switches were also dusty, that's true, which is why I cleaned all of them. None of the dust caused any irreversible damage to sliders and top housing rails - I actually haven't run into any switches bad enough to not benefit greatly from being cleaned yet *knocks on wood* - though, I also haven't purchased any taobao level switches.
As I said in my [WTS] post, the switches are certainly not on high tier/unused blue alps level - the board was purchased used, so that was never going to be the case anyway - I do, however, feel that they are good representatives of blue alps. This community has done so much for me, I would never try to deceive community members into buying a shitty keyboard.
If there are questions about the board, though, I will certainly reply to any PMs.
@harshmallow @subcat
appreciate it, dudes =)
- ekeppel
- Location: Maine, USA
- Main keyboard: IBM 5251 Frankenbeam XT w/ Modified Layout
- Favorite switch: Beamspring > Capacitive BS > Alps SKCM Brown > U4T
- DT Pro Member: -
I certainly don't follow every thread here on DT or GH, and it's nearly impossible to correlate most DT/GH members with their eBay usernames, so no offense was intended with my comment.
Like many, I believe it's wise to be cautious when buying on eBay, and there's there's really nothing wrong about trying to deduce an item's condition when we don't have a lot to go on, is there?
Knowing that the listing comes from a fellow DT member changes things a great deal. I wish you all the best in your auction!
Like many, I believe it's wise to be cautious when buying on eBay, and there's there's really nothing wrong about trying to deduce an item's condition when we don't have a lot to go on, is there?
Knowing that the listing comes from a fellow DT member changes things a great deal. I wish you all the best in your auction!
- alienman82
- Location: Philadelphia, PA
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-5000 ISO
- Main mouse: Zowie EC1-A
- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: -
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Last edited by alienman82 on 02 Mar 2018, 04:09, edited 1 time in total.
- alh84001
- v.001
- Location: EU-HR-ZG
- Main keyboard: unsaver
- Main mouse: logitech m305 / apple trackpad
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: -
dayum, dayum, dayum.......and UK layout isn't so bad....ships to UK only, thoughDoctorDubplate wrote: ↑Beamspring with a built in wasps nest
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Ibm-D ... 2137701350
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- Location: land of the rusty beamsprings
- DT Pro Member: -
unoquepasa wrote: ↑
Hello everyone! My first post in this fantastic community.
A newbie question: is that a beamspring? It seems they have three of them:
http://es.wallapop.com/item/ibm-de-1980 ... 0-64357555
DoctorDubplate wrote: ↑Beamspring with a built in wasps nest
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Ibm-D ... 2137701350
That's five for today .
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Is this what I think it might be?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Texas-Instrumen ... 2240166204
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- Location: NC, USA
- DT Pro Member: 0117
Slom wrote: ↑Is this what I think it might be?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Texas-Instrumen ... 2240166204
SD series hall effect
keyboards-f2/ti-portable-terminal-with- ... 13465.html
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- Location: New Jersey
- Main keyboard: Ergodox
- Main mouse: Razer Naga
- Favorite switch: Box Jade
- DT Pro Member: -
Indeed, the issue is trust and I trust no one on ebay. But I do trust those on DT/GH.ekeppel wrote: ↑I certainly don't follow every thread here on DT or GH, and it's nearly impossible to correlate most DT/GH members with their eBay usernames, so no offense was intended with my comment.
Like many, I believe it's wise to be cautious when buying on eBay, and there's there's really nothing wrong about trying to deduce an item's condition when we don't have a lot to go on, is there?
Knowing that the listing comes from a fellow DT member changes things a great deal. I wish you all the best in your auction!