Best Year and Model Number for Model M
- wobbled
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB300 Pro 1
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You seem to have the best memes for every situation and conversation LOL.
(a reply to a comment duul made on GH)
Oh and btw Duul Model F's are superior to Model M's in every way except the following:
Layouts
Removable cables
Easily replaceable parts e.g. barrel frames, membranes, springs, and flippers
They work on modern PC's without adapters of converters.
Superior case plastics vs those used on the F AT, F XT, F122, and F104
Apart from that, Model F's blow the Model M away!
(a reply to a comment duul made on GH)
Oh and btw Duul Model F's are superior to Model M's in every way except the following:
Layouts
Removable cables
Easily replaceable parts e.g. barrel frames, membranes, springs, and flippers
They work on modern PC's without adapters of converters.
Superior case plastics vs those used on the F AT, F XT, F122, and F104
Apart from that, Model F's blow the Model M away!
- clickykeyboards
- Location: United States of America
- Main keyboard: 1395682, IBM model M 1985
- Main mouse: Logitech G500 weighted
- Favorite switch: buckling spring
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Among my favorite model M keyboards are those early ones from 1985 and 1986 with shiny curved "chromed" metal plates.
- snuci
- Vintage computer guy
- Location: Ontario, Canada
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I only have one of those and it does look spectacular. Too bad nobody else can see it. I've always thought that would be awesome is a clear case for this keyboard mechanism.clickykeyboards wrote: ↑Among my favorite model M keyboards are those early ones from 1985 and 1986 with shiny curved "chromed" metal plates.
- seebart
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- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
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Yes that is really nice clickykeyboards! Many of the old M's have the curved "rainbow" plate.
- snuci
- Vintage computer guy
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I refer to that type of keyboard mechanism as the "mirror" plate. If you take a picture, you can see yourselfseebart wrote: ↑Yes that is really nice clickykeyboards! Many of the old M's have the curved "rainbow" plate.
- seebart
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- Location: Germany
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Haha very good point. On a side note I just added my 1390148 to our IBM part numbers page:
wiki/IBM_part_numbers
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
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1388032s have rainbow plates like that too .wobbled wrote: ↑Oh my that is stunning... I think Chyros just lost the crown for best full size model m.
- seebart
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- Main keyboard: Rotation
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- wobbled
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB300 Pro 1
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Master 3
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0192
- seebart
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- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
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wobbled wrote: ↑But the one in your video wasn't as shiny as that one. Sorry bro either whip out the polish and get scrubbing or you lose
- wobbled
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB300 Pro 1
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Master 3
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0192
I can picture Tom right now with shoe polish, furniture polish, car polish, and whatever the hell else he can get his hands on desperately scrubbing away at his board
- seebart
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- Location: Germany
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No, don't start with the flaming now come on behave man.wobbled wrote: ↑I can picture Tom right now with shoe polish, furniture polish, car polish, and whatever the hell else he can get his hands on desperately scrubbing away at his board
- MrDuul
- Location: ARIZONA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F Unsaver
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
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Not bad points. I was comparing my 4704 tho.wobbled wrote: ↑You seem to have the best memes for every situation and conversation LOL.
(a reply to a comment duul made on GH)
Oh and btw Duul Model F's are superior to Model M's in every way except the following:
Layouts
Removable cables
Easily replaceable parts e.g. barrel frames, membranes, springs, and flippers
They work on modern PC's without adapters of converters.
Superior case plastics vs those used on the F AT, F XT, F122, and F104
Apart from that, Model F's blow the Model M away!
Removable cables M wins, Layout you can customize with F's for ANSI. M's standard cables can def plug into most desktop computers.
Model F you can easily swap parts out. Model M plastic had no idea they were superior, can't tell.
- wobbled
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB300 Pro 1
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Master 3
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0192
When I said layout I was referring to standard 101 or with Unicomps, standard 103/4. On a Model F you almost always sacrifice something e.g. F Keys on a Kishsaver, standard arrow layouts on AT's, XT's, 122's and 104's etc
The plastics on F's are definitely more brittle, watch Chyros's video on the M122 where he compares the plastic to an F122.
Also you can only swap Model F parts out if you have replacement parts to begin with, parts for F's are much harder to find whereas with M's you can buy replacement stuff from unicomp.
The plastics on F's are definitely more brittle, watch Chyros's video on the M122 where he compares the plastic to an F122.
Also you can only swap Model F parts out if you have replacement parts to begin with, parts for F's are much harder to find whereas with M's you can buy replacement stuff from unicomp.
- seebart
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- Location: Germany
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It is true that a lot of the terminal F's have freakishly unusable layout like these 3178:
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
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Some models came with a matte rainbow plate, some came with a shiny one. I also have a shiny-plate M, but that's not the 1388032. I suspect the matte models are older; F's tend to be matte as well.wobbled wrote: ↑I can picture Tom right now with shoe polish, furniture polish, car polish, and whatever the hell else he can get his hands on desperately scrubbing away at his board
- MrDuul
- Location: ARIZONA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F Unsaver
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
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How dare you, how dare you, How dare yoooou!wobbled wrote: ↑When I said layout I was referring to standard 101 or with Unicomps, standard 103/4. On a Model F you almost always sacrifice something e.g. F Keys on a Kishsaver, standard arrow layouts on AT's, XT's, 122's and 104's etc
The plastics on F's are definitely more brittle, watch Chyros's video on the M122 where he compares the plastic to an F122.
Also you can only swap Model F parts out if you have replacement parts to begin with, parts for F's are much harder to find whereas with M's you can buy replacement stuff from unicomp.
-I have never had problems with Model F plastics.
-F arrow keys are killer on Kishsaver. You can't even see them. hehehhehe
-Model F you have everything to gain.
-Orihalcon has plenty of Model F parts.
Model F for the win kthxbye.
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- emdude
- Model M Apologist
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One of my 0120/0131s has these kind of plates.clickykeyboards wrote: ↑Among my favorite model M keyboards are those early ones from 1985 and 1986 with shiny curved "chromed" metal plates.
At one point, I owned an early 1391401 with a plate that wasn't chromated but had a similar mirror finish. It was very neat.
- taylorswiftttttt
- Location: USA
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- seebart
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- Location: Germany
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I've never seen one here before. Then again Wheelwriters aren't posted here too often.
- wobbled
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB300 Pro 1
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Master 3
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0192
Just because you haven't had problems with them doesn't mean they're not brittle One drop in the wrong place and your case will crack.MrDuul wrote: ↑How dare you, how dare you, How dare yoooou!wobbled wrote: ↑When I said layout I was referring to standard 101 or with Unicomps, standard 103/4. On a Model F you almost always sacrifice something e.g. F Keys on a Kishsaver, standard arrow layouts on AT's, XT's, 122's and 104's etc
The plastics on F's are definitely more brittle, watch Chyros's video on the M122 where he compares the plastic to an F122.
Also you can only swap Model F parts out if you have replacement parts to begin with, parts for F's are much harder to find whereas with M's you can buy replacement stuff from unicomp.
-I have never had problems with Model F plastics.
-F arrow keys are killer on Kishsaver. You can't even see them. hehehhehe
-Model F you have everything to gain.
-Orihalcon has plenty of Model F parts.
Model F for the win kthxbye.
Them keys may exist on the different layers, but in terms of their physical key layouts most model f's are limited. Even an F122 you will struggle to get a decent layout that resembles standard 101 or 104
And I wouldn't rely on one guy to provide model f parts forever. They have been out of production for like 30 years so there's only so much spare parts out there. Model M's are still being newly produced by Unicomp so in them ways they are superior. But of course in terms of feel, overall built quality, and sound Model F's are the better boards. That doesn't mean they are without their significant flaws.
- seebart
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- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
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Certain Model F cases are known to be very prone to cracking since the top case is relatively thin & light comapred to the metal assembly underneath. On certin model F's like the 3178 and the Unsaver it's extreme.
- DustGod
- Yet another IBM snob
- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F 6110344 "Battleship"
- Main mouse: Unbranded vertical mouse
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring | Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0196
Got busted in a little short than 6 hours. Reddit took waaaay longer.
- seebart
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No one got "busted" around here alright?DustGod wrote: ↑Got busted in a little short than 6 hours. Reddit took waaaay longer.