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balotz
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26 Oct 2017, 19:46
Elrick wrote: ↑Check this out;
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Data-General ... 2577375504?
Just received my purchase today from him and it's absolutely Brand New. Finding myself typing faster on this keyboard than on any previously bought keyboards, really strange.
The keys look and feel like PBT dye-subbed, which to me is simple perfection. Only my dirty, greasy paw prints have defiled this keyboard and it looks like I will be keeping this one in service.
I got this keyboard for $40.00USD (neg) and shipping to my hell-hole was more than twice the asking price but I think it was definitely worth it. Just showing everyone that I'm not lying nor deceiving anyone here with this "Great/Interesting Find".
I also bought one of these boards from the same seller, and can confirm they are excellent. The switches are really smooth, and the stabilised keys have no issues.
It's a good idea to try out a switch / board in as close to new condition as possible. As we all know, Alps are very susceptible to age / dirt but this holds true for many other switches.
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fohat
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26 Oct 2017, 20:52
What type of switches does this have?
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ohaimark
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26 Oct 2017, 20:54
Looks like Peerless. One of the owners should pull a cap to confirm.
I'm still quite skeptical that they're any good. At the very least we can say that Peerless ages worse than any Alps switch out there. Several of the Peerless keyboards I tried were in excellent aesthetic condition, and they all sucked.
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balotz
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26 Oct 2017, 21:11
fohat wrote: ↑What type of switches does this have?
They are indeed Peerless switches. Perhaps Fujitsu improved the mechanism or stabilisers at some point. I'm using the board now and if they do degrade quickly with use I'll find out soon enough.
I have two now, one FKB4725 from the eBay seller above and an FKB4700 from someone else, also in seemingly unused condition. Both have extremely smooth travel on all keys.
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ohaimark
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26 Oct 2017, 21:28
Maybe we just have very different taste in keyswitches as well. There are those out there who like Cherry MY. :rolls:
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seebart
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26 Oct 2017, 21:47
ohaimark wrote: ↑Maybe we just have very different taste in keyswitches as well. There are those out there who like Cherry MY. :rolls:
Same old game of preference. I don't mind the older type 1 black MY switches but they're way down on my top 25+ list.
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//gainsborough
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27 Oct 2017, 02:18
waldorf120 wrote: ↑This is the most American keyboard I have every seen ->
Murica
Where you at, mike? Time to drop that XT pic!
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mike52787
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27 Oct 2017, 02:20
//gainsborough wrote: ↑waldorf120 wrote: ↑This is the most American keyboard I have every seen ->
Murica
Where you at, mike? Time to drop that XT pic!
I can beat that.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83239
Not my best moment, but certainly my most patriotic.
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//gainsborough
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27 Oct 2017, 02:24
mike52787 wrote: ↑//gainsborough wrote: ↑waldorf120 wrote: ↑This is the most American keyboard I have every seen ->
Murica
Where you at, mike? Time to drop that XT pic!
I can beat that.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83239
Not my best moment, but certainly my most patriotic.
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seebart
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27 Oct 2017, 08:32
waldorf120 wrote: ↑This is the most American keyboard I have every seen ->
Murica
That's Micro Switch SW Series Hall Effect from 1974! Nice, too expensive though.
mike52787 wrote: ↑Not my best moment...
That's for sure...
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Keybug
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27 Oct 2017, 18:37
Chyros wrote: ↑Uh, well, never say "never", but that's a third-gen NMB and I've only ever heard of those as being mechanical Oo . I did a review on one quite a while ago. These boards have quite a bit going for them.
That's good news. How much would be a reasonable price, including shipping, do you think?
The Schroff simplified ALPS board has gone up to 60€, strangely:
post388552.html#p388552.
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Hak Foo
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29 Oct 2017, 07:26
I find this becoming increasingly suspicious. He listed it once and it closed at like $73. Second time, it closed at like $26. Now it shows up with a starting bid of $59 and a buy-it-now at %99.
I have the feeling he's trying to do a reserve without a reserve, just abandoning the auction if he doesn't get the seeming $100 he wants.
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gianni
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29 Oct 2017, 23:05
Myoth wrote: ↑Keybug wrote: ↑I'd be all over this one if shipping from Italy hadn't become utterly insanely expensive recently...
Any chance this doesn't have Space Invaders?
"Tastiera Vintage anni 80 tutta originale,tenuta molto bene,tipo IBM,Olivetti. | eBay" <
https://www.ebay.it/itm/Tastiera-Vintag ... SwZlZZ8DZ5>
Those stepped mods make me think that they are
Are these cherry compatible?
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mike52787
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29 Oct 2017, 23:40
gianni wrote: ↑Myoth wrote: ↑Keybug wrote: ↑I'd be all over this one if shipping from Italy hadn't become utterly insanely expensive recently...
Any chance this doesn't have Space Invaders?
"Tastiera Vintage anni 80 tutta originale,tenuta molto bene,tipo IBM,Olivetti. | eBay" <
https://www.ebay.it/itm/Tastiera-Vintag ... SwZlZZ8DZ5>
Those stepped mods make me think that they are
Are these cherry compatible?
Of course not. Those are space invaders caps.
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Starck
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Elrick
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30 Oct 2017, 09:13
LOVE you for posting this
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wobbled
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30 Oct 2017, 12:05
Elrick wrote: ↑
LOVE you for posting this
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Is there anyone or anything you don't love mate?
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Elrick
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30 Oct 2017, 12:13
wobbled wrote: ↑Is there anyone or anything you don't love mate?
Think it's to do with age, as you get closer to your end, you become like Roy Batty (Blade Runner) where even your worst enemy is forgiven and saved.
Love is what is left because taking hatred into your grave only wounds your soul.
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kbdfr
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30 Oct 2017, 12:35
Elrick wrote: ↑wobbled wrote: ↑Is there anyone or anything you don't love mate?
Think it's to do with age, as you get closer to your end, you become like Roy Batty (Blade Runner) where even your worst enemy is forgiven and saved. […]
I would absolutely deny that.
The older I get (and I am probably older than you), the more I enjoy telling assholes how I think of them
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fohat
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30 Oct 2017, 12:58
Starck wrote: ↑
Omnikey 101 for rich people:
Windows 95 logo and filthy AT cable?
PS - I am the 2nd-oldest here and I have generally mellowed out, except in political matters.
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depletedvespene
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30 Oct 2017, 13:13
Elrick wrote: ↑wobbled wrote: ↑Is there anyone or anything you don't love mate?
Think it's to do with age, as you get closer to your end, you become like Roy Batty (Blade Runner) where even your worst enemy is forgiven and saved.
Love is what is left because taking hatred into your grave only wounds your soul.
Unless your soul is wounded enough that the only way to deal with it is to spew our bitter resentment and... er... no, I am not talking about personal experience, whateverwouldmakeyouthinkthat???
Kids these days...
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Nuum
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30 Oct 2017, 13:28
Shipping to Germany: $184.52
Must be one of the highest shipping rates I've ever seen for a keyboard!
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Chyros
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30 Oct 2017, 13:55
That seems extremely expensive for an SKCC board even without shipping. Pingmasters are a fraction of that, and those are NIB Oo .
That said, cool caps though
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depletedvespene
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30 Oct 2017, 14:03
Chyros wrote: ↑That seems extremely expensive for an SKCC board even without shipping. Pingmasters are a fraction of that, and those are NIB Oo .
That said, cool caps though
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Even more so now that Mendelson's got another large batch of japanese Pingmasters in stock...
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Cavemanthe0ne
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30 Oct 2017, 14:24
Chyros wrote: ↑That seems extremely expensive for an SKCC board even without shipping. Pingmasters are a fraction of that, and those are NIB Oo .
That said, cool caps though
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Just was browsing the industrial electronics part of eBay, some strange keyboards in that section... Most are interesting (whether because caps, or esoteric use case)
... But also almost always overpriced. Sometimes though there's gems
above just caught my eye because of the caps lol
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Chyros
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30 Oct 2017, 15:50
Cavemanthe0ne wrote: ↑Chyros wrote: ↑That seems extremely expensive for an SKCC board even without shipping. Pingmasters are a fraction of that, and those are NIB Oo .
That said, cool caps though
.
Just was browsing the industrial electronics part of eBay, some strange keyboards in that section... Most are interesting (whether because caps, or esoteric use case)
... But also almost always overpriced. Sometimes though there's gems
above just caught my eye because of the caps lol
Oh, definitely, those caps would suit a Pingmaster very well. Pretty sure they use the same profile, too.
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Lustique
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30 Oct 2017, 17:40
depletedvespene wrote: ↑Chyros wrote: ↑That seems extremely expensive for an SKCC board even without shipping. Pingmasters are a fraction of that, and those are NIB Oo .
That said, cool caps though
.
Even more so now that Mendelson's got another large batch of japanese Pingmasters in stock...
Why does this have to be a US seller?
I'm not paying 50$ for shipping, that's ridiculous. What are they doing with these things? Does someone personally row across the Atlantic Ocean for me if I order one?
For anyone less geographically challenged:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/382243958765
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seebart
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30 Oct 2017, 17:43
Lustique wrote: ↑depletedvespene wrote: ↑Chyros wrote: ↑That seems extremely expensive for an SKCC board even without shipping. Pingmasters are a fraction of that, and those are NIB Oo .
That said, cool caps though
.
Even more so now that Mendelson's got another large batch of japanese Pingmasters in stock...
Why does this have to be a US seller?
I'm not paying 50$ for shipping, that's ridiculous. What are they doing with these things? Does someone personally row across the Atlantic Ocean for me if I order one?
For anyone less geographically challenged:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/382243958765
Yeah shipping is more than the keyboard, I paid that and it was worth it:
keyboards-f2/ibm-part-no-6112884-t11815 ... %206112884