Price Check: How much is my _____ worth?
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
- DT Pro Member: -
The reality here, guess who's now dead and feeding the worms yet the IBM iron is still here and being used everywhere, 25 years after production .seebart wrote: ↑At least just have some style about this kbdfr!
Some times the IBM just keeps on kicking whilst detractors and the ignorant have all lapsed away, almost poetic yet quite appropriate.
Remember, you can always rejuvenate a destroyed Model-M but could anyone dig up Jobsie and resurrect him ?
- depletedvespene
- Location: Chile
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F122
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s
- Favorite switch: buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0224
- Contact:
And even if they could, they SHOULDN'T! Or do you want home row indicators on the D and K keys again? Or boardchow showcasing keyboards? Or an L-shaped cursor cluster? Or ... ?Elrick wrote: ↑… but could anyone dig up Jobsie and resurrect him ?
- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
A Model M will by design be a destroyed Model M at some time, so it’s not that you CAN rejuvenate it - you HAVE TOElrick wrote: ↑[…] Remember, you can always rejuvenate a destroyed Model-M […]
Your praise of the Model M reminds me of the infatuation of some for the Trabant, the legendary car of the GDR whose inferior design and low quality gave rise to jokes like:
Thinking of it, Isn’t there quite a similarity between the sound of a Model M and the exhaust noise of a Trabant?
- What's the best feature of a Trabant? — There's a heater at the back to keep your hands warm when you're pushing it.
- What is the longest car on the market? — The Trabant, at 12 meters length. 2 meters of car, plus ten meters of smoke.
I’m not going to make a lot of friends, I fear
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- Location: CZ
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Advantage2, JIS ThinkPad,…
- Main mouse: I like (some) trackballs, e.g., L-Trac
- Favorite switch: #vintage ghost Cherry MX Black (+ thick POM caps)
- DT Pro Member: -
Trabant was actually a great piece of engineering work, especially considering the restricted socioeconomic conditions. However, they stopped production decades too late. It's even mentioned in the linked wiki article:
It was a relatively advanced car when it was formally introduced the following year [1958], with front wheel drive, unitary construction and independent suspension.
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Its greatest drawback was its largely unchanged production; the car's two-stroke engine made it obsolete by the 1970s, limiting exports to Western Europe.
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The Trabant's designers expected production to extend until 1967 at the latest, and East German designers and engineers created a series of more-sophisticated prototypes intended to replace the P601; several are on display at the Dresden Transport Museum. Each proposal for a new model was rejected by the East German government due to shortages of the raw materials required in larger quantities for the more-advanced designs. As a result, the Trabant remained largely unchanged for more than a quarter-century.
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
- DT Pro Member: -
Actually I love noise due to working in various workshops repairing diesel trucks and equipment. Hence your analogy of the Model-M as some old and used vehicle from long ago might be appropriate here.kbdfr wrote: ↑ Thinking of it, Isn’t there quite a similarity between the sound of a Model M and the exhaust noise of a Trabant?
I’m not going to make a lot of friends, I fear
YES, you will make a lot of friends that now would include me, which I suspect may disgust you .
- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
You're of course right. I just could not resist making the comparisondavkol wrote: ↑Trabant was actually a great piece of engineering work, especially considering the restricted socioeconomic conditions. However, they stopped production decades too late. It's even mentioned in the linked wiki article […]
Oh, I'm perfectly OK with fine jokes, and I certainly appreciate others who feel the sameElrick wrote: ↑Actually I love noise due to working in various workshops repairing diesel trucks and equipment. Hence your analogy of the Model-M as some old and used vehicle from long ago might be appropriate here.kbdfr wrote: ↑ Thinking of it, Isn’t there quite a similarity between the sound of a Model M and the exhaust noise of a Trabant?
I’m not going to make a lot of friends, I fear
YES, you will make a lot of friends that now would include me, which I suspect may disgust you .
I guess we can now return to topics
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
- Contact:
- clickityClackity
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: HHKB JIS / Clueboard
- Main mouse: What's a mouse?
- Favorite switch: Zealiostotles
- DT Pro Member: -
Maybe $40-$50 in good condition, 75+ in great condition.seebart wrote:How much is this unconverted AZERTY Apple M0110 in good condition worth?
wiki/Apple_M0110
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
- Contact:
Thanks, how about my M0118 from a page back?clickityClackity wrote: ↑Maybe $40-$50 in good condition, 75+ in great condition.seebart wrote:How much is this unconverted AZERTY Apple M0110 in good condition worth?
wiki/Apple_M0110
- Keybug
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: so many!
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s; trackballs suck
- Favorite switch: Kailh box royals, trampoline-modded
- DT Pro Member: 0208
NIB (it seems - still in transit) Model M, ANSI with both English and Russian legends. Mhhhh.
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- depletedvespene
- Location: Chile
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F122
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s
- Favorite switch: buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0224
- Contact:
Once you get it post detailed pictures of the keycaps, please.Keybug wrote: ↑NIB (it seems - still in transit) Model M, ANSI with both English and Russian legends. Mhhhh.
Could be temperature yellowing, in that case it could be nib. But yeah, it's rather unlikely to be nib
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
- DT Pro Member: -
What the hell is "temperature yellowing", how does that actually happen? xDhansichen wrote: ↑Could be temperature yellowing, in that case it could be nib. But yeah, it's rather unlikely to be nib
Wrong storage can probably have some effects too. Eg some of my cherry boards are heavily yellowed but not the abs caps, UV as the origin of this yellowing is unlikely as the caps would have yellowed too. Some reports about the yellowing of things that were retrobrighted could be due to that too, or retrobright is shit
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
- DT Pro Member: -
ABS is cast at high temperatures, how would it not come out like a banana afterwards then? :phansichen wrote: ↑Wrong storage can probably have some effects too. Eg some of my cherry boards are heavily yellowed but not the abs caps, UV as the origin of this yellowing is unlikely as the caps would have yellowed too. Some reports about the yellowing of things that were retrobrighted could be due to that too, or retrobright is shit
- Keybug
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: so many!
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s; trackballs suck
- Favorite switch: Kailh box royals, trampoline-modded
- DT Pro Member: 0208
- fohat
- Elder Messenger
- Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
- Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
- Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
- Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0158
All US-made Model Ms have PBT space bars that do not yellow.Chyros wrote: ↑
Spacebar looks yellowed. Probably not NIB, then.
Greennock apparently switched to ABS space bars somewhere in the mid-1990s, and those do yellow.
Supposedly yellowing is from UV, but I feel that age was often enough.
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
- DT Pro Member: -
I know the Greenock ones are ABS, but I don't buy it that these just yellow on their own. I have plenty of NIB boards with ABS caps and space bars and they're pristine.fohat wrote: ↑All US-made Model Ms have PBT space bars that do not yellow.Chyros wrote: ↑
Spacebar looks yellowed. Probably not NIB, then.
Greennock apparently switched to ABS space bars somewhere in the mid-1990s, and those do yellow.
Supposedly yellowing is from UV, but I feel that age was often enough.
- scottc
- ☃
- Location: Remote locations in Europe
- Main keyboard: GH60-HASRO 62g Nixies, HHKB Pro1 HS, Novatouch
- Main mouse: Steelseries Rival 300
- Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black
- DT Pro Member: -
$300 for NIB, ANSI dyesubs AND with the grey NCR case? I don't know.
You could probably get like $400-500 for it, if you find the right buyer.
That said, I am absolutely not the right buyer, I wouldn't pay nearly that much. But I know that people that would exist.
You could probably get like $400-500 for it, if you find the right buyer.
That said, I am absolutely not the right buyer, I wouldn't pay nearly that much. But I know that people that would exist.
- wobbled
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB300 Pro 1
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Master 3
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0192
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- Location: Spain
- Main keyboard: Logitech k120
- Main mouse: steelseries something
- Favorite switch: still don't know!
- DT Pro Member: -
Price check: NIB Model M ISO (1391506) 140€?
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