Ugh. Another delightful switch.seebart wrote: ↑True. Supposedly there is also a version with Cherry ML.Chyros wrote: ↑That uses MEI switches iirc. From what I've heard those are extremely awful.
wiki/Datalux_SpaceSaver
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- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
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- DustGod
- Yet another IBM snob
- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F 6110344 "Battleship"
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5251s, 3278s. 3101s and Displaywriters are all way more common than Kishsavers, to name a few.xxhellfirexx wrote: ↑Just how rare are beam springs? They seem to pop up more often than kishsavers.
Of course, other stuff like the Beamship or the Beamdesk is a different story.
- seebart
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No way near as horrible as MEI.Chyros wrote: ↑Ugh. Another delightful switch.seebart wrote: ↑True. Supposedly there is also a version with Cherry ML.Chyros wrote: ↑That uses MEI switches iirc. From what I've heard those are extremely awful.
wiki/Datalux_SpaceSaver
The layout choices amongst Beamsprings aren't great anyway.xxhellfirexx wrote: ↑At first I thought it was a great compact layout, but upon seeing the other pictures nope.... Also that enter key is quite tall.alh84001 wrote: ↑RIP my chances to get a Displaywriter.seebart wrote: ↑The 3101 is one of the nicer Beams but $1200 is just silly unless it's NIB'ish.
This is not great, but certainly interesting
https://www.ebay.com/itm/122893570176/?autorefresh=true
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Are there any switches that are halfway decent that are pin compatible with Cherry ML?
- FXT
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That's what I've been telling myself. Beam spring boards are a novelty that you can't really use on a daily basis. I don't need one. My wallet doesn't need to go through this.seebart wrote: ↑ The layout choices amongst Beamsprings aren't great anyway.
- seebart
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There is some truth to that with many if not most vintage keyboards with their unsual layouts. A lot of people are able to adapt their layout to a certain degree and then there is of course hard and soft key-modding. Hasu's TMK is a great example on the Apple M0110 which I used recently, TMK offers many options but the tiny M0110 is just limited by it's physical layout.
wiki/Apple_M0110
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I would agree, it's a novelty. I pull mine out as a bit of a party trick (before I started the restoration which is currently on going). And there aint no way in hell that this board was worth $1200 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Be ... 7675.l2557)
*ducks thrown beamspring boards coming at my head*
- pansku
- Member of the Beam Spring cult
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The layout on 5251 isn't too bad IMHO. It's pretty much an XT-layout with 2 missing buttons which is pretty good for me. I actually found it easier to use than an F XT in daily use because of the deep dishing on the F and J keys where as the F XT doesn't have any tactile indication of where you put your fingers. If only the Alt and Alt Gr would be slightly more to the center so I could use them with thumbs And the height, oh the height. I cant put my electric desk low enough to use beam spring while sitting because of the stupid design decision in this already too small ~25m² apartment. Standing is good for your back anyways so I don't mind too much.seebart wrote: ↑ The layout choices amongst Beamsprings aren't great anyway.
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To be completely honest I don't think the layout is what would bother me on a Beamspring board as much as the height. I think the feet on my XT raise it up too high so I don't bother with them. I don't think I could really deal with the height on a Beamspring board on a daily basis. Still really want one though.
- seebart
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Agreed, there's way more obscure stuff out there.pansku wrote: ↑The layout on 5251 isn't too bad IMHO. It's pretty much an XT-layout with 2 missing buttons which is pretty good for me. I actually found it easier to use than an F XT in daily use because of the deep dishing on the F and J keys where as the F XT doesn't have any tactile indication of where you put your fingers. If only the Alt and Alt Gr would be slightly more to the center so I could use them with thumbs And the height, oh the height. I cant put my electric desk low enough to use beam spring while sitting because of the stupid design decision in this already too small ~25m² apartment. Standing is good for your back anyways so I don't mind too much.seebart wrote: ↑ The layout choices amongst Beamsprings aren't great anyway.
I like the height, although it takes some adapting when coming from something modern. We had a Beamspring Displaywriter here a while ago with a fixed wrist rest that almost looked like it came from IBM that way:FXT wrote: ↑To be completely honest I don't think the layout is what would bother me on a Beamspring board as much as the height. I don't really consider the XT layout to be too weird as I use one every day. I don't need one but I really want one.
photos-f62/ibm-displaywriter-wrist-wrest-t13935.html
- Chyros
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I'd say the 5251 layout is definitely better than the XT's. It's honestly not bad.pansku wrote: ↑The layout on 5251 isn't too bad IMHO. It's pretty much an XT-layout with 2 missing buttons which is pretty good for me. I actually found it easier to use than an F XT in daily use because of the deep dishing on the F and J keys where as the F XT doesn't have any tactile indication of where you put your fingers. If only the Alt and Alt Gr would be slightly more to the center so I could use them with thumbs And the height, oh the height. I cant put my electric desk low enough to use beam spring while sitting because of the stupid design decision in this already too small ~25m² apartment. Standing is good for your back anyways so I don't mind too much.seebart wrote: ↑ The layout choices amongst Beamsprings aren't great anyway.
- alh84001
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I wouldn't say 3278s are way more common than kishies (especially some variants), if at all. Because of that batch two years ago, kishies are not the rarest of boards (still veeeery rare by all accounts), the trouble is no one wants to get rid of themDustGod wrote: ↑ 3278s are way more common than Kishsavers
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Cool Model M with Hebrew caps, $1200...one zero too many imo but you can make an offer
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Now that is a handy wrist rest.seebart wrote: ↑
I like the height, although it takes some adapting when coming from something modern. We had a Beamspring Displaywriter here a while ago with a fixed wrist rest that almost looked like it came from IBM that way:
photos-f62/ibm-displaywriter-wrist-wrest-t13935.html
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Another 5251 beamer. It's an absolute steal if you ask me
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-52 ... Ciid%253A1
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-52 ... Ciid%253A1
- digital_matthew
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Probably saw that 3101 sell for $1200 and thought, "Yeah it's pretty much the same thing."jerue wrote: ↑Cool Model M with Hebrew caps, $1200...one zero too many imo but you can make an offer
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Nope, that one's been for sale for a while. Hasn't gotten any cheaper.digital_matthew wrote: ↑Probably saw that 3101 sell for $1200 and thought, "Yeah it's pretty much the same thing."jerue wrote: ↑Cool Model M with Hebrew caps, $1200...one zero too many imo but you can make an offer
- DustGod
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Well, yes. Maybe the 3278 isn't rarer than the Kishsaver, although it is harder to get for the reason you mentioned.alh84001 wrote: ↑
I wouldn't say 3278s are way more common than kishies (especially some variants), if at all. Because of that batch two years ago, kishies are not the rarest of boards (still veeeery rare by all accounts), the trouble is no one wants to get rid of them
- Chyros
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That's go the system and documentation and everything. Man, the 5251 was such a fantastic-looking computer .JP! wrote: ↑Another 5251 beamer. It's an absolute steal if you ask me
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-52 ... Ciid%253A1
- just_add_coffee
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I'm back.
The mob has spoken!
The mob has spoken!
- digital_matthew
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(Puts down torch and pitchfork) Well okay then.
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Chyros wrote: ↑That's go the system and documentation and everything. Man, the 5251 was such a fantastic-looking computer .JP! wrote: ↑Another 5251 beamer. It's an absolute steal if you ask me
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-52 ... Ciid%253A1
I wonder if anyone was able to retro-mod the monitor as that will make a pretty kick ass battle station.
- digital_matthew
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No I don't agree, also I would hope he would include the original keys because they look much better on the boardYou will notice too that many of the alphanumeric keys are brown instead of white. They are keys taken from a vintage IBM Selectric II that I felt gave a nice contrast to an otherwise very plain looking keyboard. I hope you agree!
- digital_matthew
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AAAnnnddd it's gone...digital_matthew wrote: ↑White(ish) Whale ahoy!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Di ... SwB3BaTWqQ
- FXT
- XT
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- Favorite switch: Buckling springs
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Well that was fast...digital_matthew wrote: ↑AAAnnnddd it's gone...digital_matthew wrote: ↑White(ish) Whale ahoy!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Di ... SwB3BaTWqQ
- Techno Trousers
- 100,000,000 actuations
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$660 and it sells in minutes. Seller kicking himself for not making it an auction.