tron wrote: ↑The seller wrote back to me and said it has "blue switches". Does anyone know what they could be?Damonskv wrote: ↑Someone from usa should pick it up https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 3089980710
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- Keybug
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: so many!
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s; trackballs suck
- Favorite switch: Kailh box royals, trampoline-modded
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If there's something blue under the keycaps here, it's rubber cups, not ALPS sliders. Stay clear!
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
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Agreed, this is what Hypersphere PM'd me last year about these:Keybug wrote: ↑If there's something blue under the keycaps here, it's rubber cups, not ALPS sliders. Stay clear!
Hypersphere wrote:Hi seebart!
These usually have SKCM brown Alps, but I bought one that had some sort of rubber dome switch. If you could get the seller to pull a cap ....
Good luck!
Best wishes,
Hypersphere
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
- DT Pro Member: -
NEVER believe in anything a seller says (types) the only real proof is that elusive IMAGE (picture).Keybug wrote: ↑The seller wrote back to me and said it has "blue switches". Does anyone know what they could be?
Other then that, these sellers live in a deliberate state of subterfuge, worthy of any Politician .
- DustGod
- Yet another IBM snob
- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F 6110344 "Battleship"
- Main mouse: Unbranded vertical mouse
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring | Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0196
If I was a conspiracy theorist I'd think that someone is trying to artificially bump up the prices.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑There are strange things afoot in the vintage keyboard arena. I wonder if some new cryptocurrency millionaires are starting to buy keyboards?
As we all know, all it takes for prices to skyrocket on eBay is a couple of outlier transactions. I'm sure all of you remember what happened with beamers.
And obviously, the supply is only going to dry up and the demand is only going to increase, at least in the short and medium term. So, the prices are likely to get stuck to the one of the inflated transactions.
Of course, this is not the case (I don't believe that thath and other beamspring keyboards will be sold for 1000€ from now on). But maybe this is the trick the seller is trying to pull off.
- ohaimark
- Kingpin
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Siemens G80 Lookalike
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: Blue Alps
- DT Pro Member: 1337
That reinforces my theory about the Videowriter timeline. The branded case means that there is a chance of not getting Brown Alps... Now watch my unbranded one arrive and be rubber domes, just to spite me.
- seebart
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Either way we'll find out sooner or later, I'm "crossing my fingers" for you kingpin.ohaimark wrote: ↑That reinforces my theory about the Videowriter timeline. The branded case means that there is a chance of not getting Brown Alps... Now watch my unbranded one arrive and be rubber domes, just to spite me.
Ebay itself has a major interest in these high prices which is why they offer their own price-guides for sellers.DustGod wrote: ↑If I was a conspiracy theorist I'd think that someone is trying to artificially bump up the prices.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑There are strange things afoot in the vintage keyboard arena. I wonder if some new cryptocurrency millionaires are starting to buy keyboards?
As we all know, all it takes for prices to skyrocket on eBay is a couple of outlier transactions. I'm sure all of you remember what happened with beamers.
And obviously, the supply is only going to dry up and the demand is only going to increase, at least in the short and medium term. So, the prices are likely to get stuck to the one of the inflated transactions.
Of course, this is not the case (I don't believe that thath and other beamspring keyboards will be sold for 1000€ from now on). But maybe this is the trick the seller is trying to pull off.
- Techno Trousers
- 100,000,000 actuations
- Location: California
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F-122
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Spring (Model F)
- DT Pro Member: 0159
I hate that "trending at" price. eBay, you're not supposed to be setting or influencing prices for an auction!seebart wrote:
Ebay itself has a major interest in these high prices which is why they offer their own price-guides for sellers.
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
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- Main keyboard: Rotation
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Higher final sale = higher ebay fee = ebay profitsTechno Trousers wrote: ↑I hate that "trending at" price. eBay, you're not supposed to be setting or influencing prices for an auction!seebart wrote:
Ebay itself has a major interest in these high prices which is why they offer their own price-guides for sellers.
- Tuntematon
- Location: Canada
- DT Pro Member: -
I still believe that Videowriter is Alps, despite what the seller says. I think there may be some confusion somewhere. The date code and Videowriter | Magnavox badge place it smack-dab in Alps territory. If it isn't Alps, it's a real outlier!
From what I've gathered, it's really not as random as you guys think. There appears to be a hard timeline for it. It was Alps for a while and then it wasn't Alps anymore.
From what I've gathered, it's really not as random as you guys think. There appears to be a hard timeline for it. It was Alps for a while and then it wasn't Alps anymore.
- tron
- Location: OH, USA
- Main keyboard: IBM 3278
- Main mouse: Mionix Castor
- Favorite switch: IBM Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Last minute heads up. I asked him to remove the caps and look.Tuntematon wrote: ↑I still believe that Videowriter is Alps, despite what the seller says. I think there may be some confusion somewhere. The date code and Videowriter | Magnavox badge place it smack-dab in Alps territory. If it isn't Alps, it's a real outlier!
From what I've gathered, it's really not as random as you guys think. There appears to be a hard timeline for it. It was Alps for a while and then it wasn't Alps anymore.
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- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
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I'm sorry, that's not really specific enough. We need more than one example of each in detail with pictures. We have seen the Alps version here more than once before, not the other one. Still, I believe and agree with you, but we don't have any details AFAIK.Tuntematon wrote: ↑I still believe that Videowriter is Alps, despite what the seller says. I think there may be some confusion somewhere. The date code and Videowriter | Magnavox badge place it smack-dab in Alps territory. If it isn't Alps, it's a real outlier!
From what I've gathered, it's really not as random as you guys think. There appears to be a hard timeline for it. It was Alps for a while and then it wasn't Alps anymore.
- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
- DT Pro Member: 0188
It does have the blue font caps lock key - every alps 250 I've seen has had that. At least, it looks blue in the picture.
- seebart
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That's a good start. Let's wait and see...//gainsborough wrote: ↑It does have the blue font caps lock key - every alps 250 I've seen has had that. At least, it looks blue in the picture.
- Tuntematon
- Location: Canada
- DT Pro Member: -
My guess would be that he removed one of the caps with Alps SKCL compact switches, in poor lighting, and at a glance it appeared bluetron wrote: ↑Last minute heads up. I asked him to remove the caps and look.Tuntematon wrote: ↑I still believe that Videowriter is Alps, despite what the seller says. I think there may be some confusion somewhere. The date code and Videowriter | Magnavox badge place it smack-dab in Alps territory. If it isn't Alps, it's a real outlier!
From what I've gathered, it's really not as random as you guys think. There appears to be a hard timeline for it. It was Alps for a while and then it wasn't Alps anymore.
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
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I'd say most of the time "normal" people with no mechanical keyboard knowledge don't know what their looking at anyway.
- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
- DT Pro Member: 0188
Anyone here win it? At $40 that's quite a get. Shipping adds a bit, but even so! Not a bad deal if it's browns!
- Tuntematon
- Location: Canada
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That's the truth. Getting keyboard info from sellers can be quite the struggle. Hopefully this particular example shows up here so we can confirm. I wasn't personally invested enough to hassle the seller further.seebart wrote: ↑I'd say most of the time "normal" people with no mechanical keyboard knowledge don't know what their looking at anyway.
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
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Exactly, even trying to explain how to pull a keycap can get difficult, I've had adventurous situations with sellers that thought I was some nut for even asking what's under the keycap. Response from the seller: "what's a keycap?"Tuntematon wrote: ↑That's the truth. Getting keyboard info from sellers can be quite the struggle. Hopefully this particular example shows up here so we can confirm. I wasn't personally invested enough to hassle the seller further.seebart wrote: ↑I'd say most of the time "normal" people with no mechanical keyboard knowledge don't know what their looking at anyway.
- Brett MacK
- Location: United States (New Hampshire)
- Main keyboard: SGI Granite
- Main mouse: Logitech G403
- Favorite switch: White Clicky Hi-Tek 725
- DT Pro Member: -
I asked that seller to pull off an alpha key a week ago and he said it was blue, so it must be a dome. Unless he just didn't pull an alpha key.
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- Location: land of the rusty beamsprings
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Because normal people just call that part a key?!seebart wrote: ↑ Exactly, even trying to explain how to pull a keycap can get difficult, I've had adventurous situations with sellers that thought I was some nut for even asking what's under the keycap. Response from the seller: "what's a keycap?"
- Techno Trousers
- 100,000,000 actuations
- Location: California
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F-122
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Spring (Model F)
- DT Pro Member: 0159
Should have asked the seller if it was a circle or rectangle under the key. It's hard to mess that one up.
- Brett MacK
- Location: United States (New Hampshire)
- Main keyboard: SGI Granite
- Main mouse: Logitech G403
- Favorite switch: White Clicky Hi-Tek 725
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A decent looking Zenith with yellow Alps. I would get it myself if I didn't have one already.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Zenith ... 1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Zenith ... 1438.l2649
- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
- DT Pro Member: 0188
Noice, that's a 163-73! It has the same layout as a zkb-2 but has a plastic back and doesn't have NKRO - though, its major plus is that it has thick PBT caps!
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
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Keybug wrote: ↑My money is on this. Then you will suffer like I did!
Haha I knew it,there we have it...Mitsumi KPQ Type with a blue buckling rubber sleeve.
What we really need to do is setup a wiki-page for this Videowriter, if people send me their pics I'll do that.
wiki/Mitsumi_KPQ_Type
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
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$110USD for that, you're joking right?Brett MacK wrote: ↑A decent looking Zenith with yellow Alps. I would get it myself if I didn't have one already.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Zenith ... 1438.l2649
It's so old and dirty I've seen cleaner public toilets than that keyboard plus since it's using Alps switches, do expect some of them to be filled with dirt and grime.
Unless you're a full on masochist with delusional tendencies, then this Keyboard is a real bargain .
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- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
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The real problem is that it's impossible to tell what condition those (yellow?) Alps are in.Elrick wrote: ↑It's so old and dirty I've seen cleaner public toilets than that keyboard plus since it's using Alps switches, do expect some of them to be filled with dirt and grime.
- Techno Trousers
- 100,000,000 actuations
- Location: California
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F-122
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Spring (Model F)
- DT Pro Member: 0159
Extreme tactility!xxhellfirexx wrote:https://m.ebay.com/itm/SCARCE-VINTAGE-1 ... 2857072980
https://www.ebay.com/itm/162857072980
- seebart
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It's "touch activated" alright...touch the monolith...
On the other hand you could probably drop a huge bowl of hot chilli on there + some soft drink and that monolith would still function. Hardcore monoblock.
On the other hand you could probably drop a huge bowl of hot chilli on there + some soft drink and that monolith would still function. Hardcore monoblock.