Dell GYUM97SK review (Alps SKCM Pine Black)
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
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Today we go over the Dell GYUM97SK, an oft-overlooked, superior version of the AT101, as well as an overview of the timeline of these keyboards. Hope you enjoy the video!
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- Location: Spain
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Nice! Now the prices of these models will skyrocket again. Kudos bro!!!! xDD
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Old label Dell keyboards have had high prices all year.Claraval23 wrote: ↑Nice! Now the prices of these models will skyrocket again. Kudos bro!!!! xDD
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
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Why not, a decent keyboard sporting some very likeable switches. I'm using a new WANG keyboard with Blacks bought off Bob Tibbetts. Actually like them a lot, also I have another DELL keyboard with Blacks and I have to note here, that I really like them more than any Blues.
I know I committed heresy by putting down "Blue Alps" but you should know me by now.
Would rather they didn't go up in pricing but guess what, it stops them from disappearing off Flebay too quickly .
- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
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Great review, my man. I use to have one of thee boards. I kind of regret selling it - pine blacks are kinda neat!
I do think there exist boards not made by silitek that use bamboo black alps, however. As Elrick pointed out, the wang 725 has bamboo black alps in it.
I do think there exist boards not made by silitek that use bamboo black alps, however. As Elrick pointed out, the wang 725 has bamboo black alps in it.
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
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Does it actually though? I know the wiki says so, but on the pictures it links to they look like pines, not bamboo switches.//gainsborough wrote: ↑Great review, my man. I use to have one of thee boards. I kind of regret selling it - pine blacks are kinda neat!
I do think there exist boards not made by silitek that use bamboo black alps, however. As Elrick pointed out, the wang 725 has bamboo black alps in it.
- seebart
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Dont take the wiki-data for granted.Chyros wrote: ↑Does it actually though? I know the wiki says so, but on the pictures it links to they look like pines, not bamboo switches.
- Daniel Beardsmore
- Location: Hertfordshire, England
- Main keyboard: Filco Majestouch 1 (home)/Poker II backlit (work)
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Those are bamboo; what you're seeing is where the slits in the mould were filled in, leaving a pair of ridges on each side.Chyros wrote: ↑Does it actually though? I know the wiki says so, but on the pictures it links to they look like pines, not bamboo switches.
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
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Have you got or tried a good or NOS one since?Starck wrote: ↑Bought a black AT101 once because of the positive reviews.
It was a bit dirty, but i thought it wouldn't matter.... it matters.
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- Menuhin
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB400BN lubed, has Hasu Bt Controller
- Main mouse: How to make scroll ring of Expert Mouse smoother?
- Favorite switch: Gateron ink lubed
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I have a Dell GYUM97SK, labelled made in Taiwan.
Among other boards with Alps switches I have / had, I like the pine blacks most; But I can throw a bamboo blacks Dell board outside my windows (towards the recycling area) at any time, with its Dye-sub caps taken off first - all Alps bamboo switches bind, like brakes on a vehicle rubbing onto the braking discs without my request.
As someone who likes heavier switches, such as Cherry MX blacks, my personal preference of Alps SKCM/SKCL switches:
Black pines / Brown > Salmon > Orange / White pines / Blue > Undampened creams > Dampened creams > Green linear
Haven't got those ultra rare, e.g. Neon greens (neither their bamboos nor pines), Amber, Stripe-Amber, but I think the above should be enough.
The only thing that I do not like this GYUM97SK board is that, Dell is just a lame brand without any well-known glorious history and without any cool character, and similar model of that era could be made in Japan and this board was made in Taiwan - less cool. I still recall myself getting angry when I bought a Nikkor lens and found out that was made in Taiwan instead of made in Japan, Taiwanese are Chinese, which means usually quite smart but has a tendency to make ethically not so correct choice due to a different perspective of "integrity" - Taiwanese also have unqualified building structures (e.g. Using tin cans and even polystyrene instead of qualified metallic rebar rods to reinforce concrete structures) that killed people and have unethical food safety problems (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutter_oil) due to corrupted builders and manufacturers. Things have changed since than especially in recent years, just look at brands from China like Dji and Huawei, eating big into the market share with their high quality products.
Among other boards with Alps switches I have / had, I like the pine blacks most; But I can throw a bamboo blacks Dell board outside my windows (towards the recycling area) at any time, with its Dye-sub caps taken off first - all Alps bamboo switches bind, like brakes on a vehicle rubbing onto the braking discs without my request.
As someone who likes heavier switches, such as Cherry MX blacks, my personal preference of Alps SKCM/SKCL switches:
Black pines / Brown > Salmon > Orange / White pines / Blue > Undampened creams > Dampened creams > Green linear
Haven't got those ultra rare, e.g. Neon greens (neither their bamboos nor pines), Amber, Stripe-Amber, but I think the above should be enough.
The only thing that I do not like this GYUM97SK board is that, Dell is just a lame brand without any well-known glorious history and without any cool character, and similar model of that era could be made in Japan and this board was made in Taiwan - less cool. I still recall myself getting angry when I bought a Nikkor lens and found out that was made in Taiwan instead of made in Japan, Taiwanese are Chinese, which means usually quite smart but has a tendency to make ethically not so correct choice due to a different perspective of "integrity" - Taiwanese also have unqualified building structures (e.g. Using tin cans and even polystyrene instead of qualified metallic rebar rods to reinforce concrete structures) that killed people and have unethical food safety problems (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutter_oil) due to corrupted builders and manufacturers. Things have changed since than especially in recent years, just look at brands from China like Dji and Huawei, eating big into the market share with their high quality products.
- Techno Trousers
- 100,000,000 actuations
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Great video, Chyros. Thanks. I've had an Alps switch reawakening recently, so this video was a good kick in the pants to get out there and see what's available. Found an Alps MCL-101 keyboard with an FCC ID of GYISAT102-102 for a decent price. I don't know yet what flavor of switches it has, but that's all part of the fun, right? I've always wanted an Alps branded keyboard with Alps switches.
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- Location: UK
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Good video pointing out pine vs bamboo.
I think that the major difference in them is the slits , i feel ( from tanking many alps apart and making ghetto greens) is that the slits reduce the alps wobble and therefore also make the thing smoother and its not wobbling into the side of the housing as much. This in theory will allow the tolerances inside the switch to be tighter resulting in better feel.
Part of it is also the switch plate , the older grey switch plates in alps wont fit in newer housings ( even of the same type of switch)
I think that the major difference in them is the slits , i feel ( from tanking many alps apart and making ghetto greens) is that the slits reduce the alps wobble and therefore also make the thing smoother and its not wobbling into the side of the housing as much. This in theory will allow the tolerances inside the switch to be tighter resulting in better feel.
Part of it is also the switch plate , the older grey switch plates in alps wont fit in newer housings ( even of the same type of switch)
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- Location: Netherlands
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- Favorite switch: Model M buckling spring
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Many thanks for this review! The GUYM97SK is one of my favourite keyboards, along with the Model M.Chyros wrote: ↑Today we go over the Dell GYUM97SK, an oft-overlooked, superior version of the AT101, as well as an overview of the timeline of these keyboards. Hope you enjoy the video!
Cleaning the switches does help. Those in my Dell keyboard were scratchy until I cleaned and then lubed them; it is now a very pleasant keyboard to type on.Starck wrote: ↑Bought a black AT101 once because of the positive reviews.
It was a bit dirty, but i thought it wouldn't matter.... it matters.
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- Location: Philippines
- Main keyboard: IKBC MF87
- Main mouse: Logitech G302
- Favorite switch: Brown
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Good day! Hello guys! I am new here in this forum. I just wanna share my KB which I believe is Pine Alps Black Switch. I cant seem to find any details about this keyboard so might as well share this here on this thread. Please check attached photo for your review. I hope someone shares knowledge about this KB. Lastly, How much could i sell this in US$?
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- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
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Welcome to DT!
That's a Bull-branded Alps Bigfoot keyboard. Indeed pine black Alps and quite nice German grey doubleshot keycaps. Good find!
That's a Bull-branded Alps Bigfoot keyboard. Indeed pine black Alps and quite nice German grey doubleshot keycaps. Good find!
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- Location: Philippines
- Main keyboard: IKBC MF87
- Main mouse: Logitech G302
- Favorite switch: Brown
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Thanks, Brah! Any idea when was this kb manufactured though? Thanks for the reply