F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

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DustGod
Yet another IBM snob

29 Mar 2018, 14:26

...what?

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E3E

29 Mar 2018, 14:27

It's always refreshing to see a mind for entrepreneurship at a young age

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 14:29

okay, here is the deal:

I contacted UncleFan (in china) wheter he knows someone who owns a factory who can make these. He said he contacted the PLUM CEO, who said he may be interested if he discards them. Only thing left is Ellipse's response


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E3E

29 Mar 2018, 14:34

Squid, Ellipse made it clear he doesn't want to sell them and wishes to discard the molds out of choice, not out of inability to find someone who'd buy them.

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 14:37

E3E wrote: Squid, Ellipse made it clear he doesn't want to sell them and wishes to discard the molds out of choice, not out of inability to find someone who'd buy them.
But that's not a good choice.

If ellipse wants to discard them, PLUM's CEO is interested. :)

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kekstee

29 Mar 2018, 14:39

This is the funniest thing that has happened to the thread, but I wouldn't mind going back to boring project updates :D

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 14:41

I wouldn't mind having a safe future for these keyboards, either! Not at all.

hansichen

29 Mar 2018, 14:44

Before we talk about the future of molds in 2020 or something we should be more worried about getting a product out of this. People are waiting for years now for this bullshit "group buy".

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j0d1

29 Mar 2018, 14:47

@green-squid What you are doing is disrespectful. The business of Ellipse only concerns Ellipse. Don't go talking to others on his behalf, or at least ask to Ellipse first if he minds.

samuelcable

29 Mar 2018, 14:49

i love when deskthority doubleposts, ignore this message
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samuelcable

29 Mar 2018, 14:50

green-squid wrote: I wouldn't mind having a safe future for these keyboards, either! Not at all.
do you have any idea what you are doing?

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 14:51

I just asked about this since the news hit me by surprise. My intention was not to do buisness behalf on him. I apologize :(

>do you have any idea what you are doing?

I just asked about it, and pointed out that this is NOT certain in my letter.

This may not have been such a good idea on my part.. :oops: :oops:

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 14:51

I'm geniuenly embarassed now.

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darkcruix

29 Mar 2018, 14:52

I am more than grateful what Ellipse is doing here. His wonderful work and focus on details just is astonishing. I am looking forward holding the keyboard in my hands (the one he has decided to produce and the one I decided to buy).
Thanks Ellipse for everything you do.

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 14:56

j0d1 wrote: @green-squid What you are doing is disrespectful. The business of Ellipse only concerns Ellipse. Don't go talking to others on his behalf, or at least ask to Ellipse first if he minds.
I asked ellipse, btw.

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 14:58

Anyway, I'll wait for his response on this.

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j0d1

29 Mar 2018, 15:22

green-squid wrote:
j0d1 wrote: @green-squid What you are doing is disrespectful. The business of Ellipse only concerns Ellipse. Don't go talking to others on his behalf, or at least ask to Ellipse first if he minds.
I asked ellipse, btw.
You did not wait for his response before contacting UncleFan. That's not how asking works :lol:

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 15:27

j0d1 wrote:
green-squid wrote:
j0d1 wrote: @green-squid What you are doing is disrespectful. The business of Ellipse only concerns Ellipse. Don't go talking to others on his behalf, or at least ask to Ellipse first if he minds.
I asked ellipse, btw.
You did not wait for his response before contacting UncleFan. That's not how asking works :lol:
My mistake. No one was hurt during the asking of this question. (hopefully...) ;)

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FXT
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29 Mar 2018, 17:06

It seems a little bit disrespectful, in my opinion, to try to go behind somebody's back after they clearly stated their intentions. I've seen (through all the updates) how meticulous Ellipse is with this project. $400 for this keyboard is more than reasonable and I personally would hate to see a bunch of sub-par imitations come from a project that only came about to create a perfect recreation of the Model F down to IBM's strict tolerances.

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 17:14

FXT wrote: It seems a little bit disrespectful, in my opinion, to try to go behind somebody's back after they clearly stated their intentions. I've seen (through all the updates) how meticulous Ellipse is with this project. $400 for this keyboard is more than reasonable and I personally would hate to see a bunch of sub-par imitations come from a project that only came about to create a perfect recreation of the Model F down to IBM's strict tolerances.
Me messaging Uncle first instead of ellipse was not a good move, I agree. But my intentions were/are not to backstab him. I hope by the time he sees this, he sees that I screwed up on my part and apologized.
FXT wrote: $400 for this keyboard is more than reasonable and I personally would hate to see a bunch of sub-par imitations come from a project that only came about to create a perfect recreation of the Model F down to IBM's strict tolerances.
I also agree that he's selling it for a great price, but I also want to have these keyboards continued being made at a cheaper price, even if there's no metal plate or something.

nickg

29 Mar 2018, 17:20

Honestly I couldnt care less what happens to the molds, I just pray he "open sources" the design, data, schematics, whatever so that if other ambitions people come along in 30 more years we can do this again but easier lol.


But hey his property his rules, im just happy im in on this

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 17:25

nickg wrote: Honestly I couldnt care less what happens to the molds, I just pray he "open sources" the design, data, schematics, whatever so that if other ambitions people come along in 30 more years we can do this again but easier lol.


But hey his property his rules, im just happy im in on this
GOD BLESS open source! Seriously. While I doubt that he will open source it (since he put lots of $$ into it), I hope the molds will be safe :)

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Myoth

29 Mar 2018, 17:28

green-squid wrote: I hope the molds will be safe :)
discarding means they won't be safe .... I don't think you should hope at all.

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 17:31

Myoth wrote:
green-squid wrote: I hope the molds will be safe :)
discarding means they won't be safe .... I don't think you should hope at all.
That's why I hope he WON'T discard them!

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Myoth

29 Mar 2018, 17:57

green-squid wrote:
Myoth wrote:
green-squid wrote: I hope the molds will be safe :)
discarding means they won't be safe .... I don't think you should hope at all.
That's why I hope he WON'T discard them!
But he say he was going to ... I don't really see how he would changed his mind if it weren't for what you already said earlier ... which would be for this to be a huge promotional move.

In anyway, reading usually helps with understand, I don't think you should hope for something that was said to not happen ... see where I'm getting ?

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 18:01

Ellipse wrote: Yes after four long years the project will be ending after the final round later this year. The molds will be likely discarded, not sold.
Doesn't seem to set to me.

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Myoth

29 Mar 2018, 18:06

green-squid wrote:
Ellipse wrote: Yes after four long years the project will be ending after the final round later this year. The molds will be likely discarded, not sold.
Doesn't seem to set to me.
what could they be if they're not sold nor discarded then ? donated ?

green-squid

29 Mar 2018, 18:06

Myoth wrote:
green-squid wrote:
Ellipse wrote: Yes after four long years the project will be ending after the final round later this year. The molds will be likely discarded, not sold.
Doesn't seem to set to me.
what could they be if they're not sold nor discarded then ? donated ?
See my previous replies to this thread! :lol:

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Myoth

29 Mar 2018, 18:08

green-squid wrote: That's why I hope he WON'T discard them!
I know how to read, but that still doesn't tell me what he could do with them if they're not sold nor discarded.

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