IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread

green-squid

02 Apr 2018, 14:41

Ivalop750 wrote: Model M? 1391405 manufactured united kingdom copyright IBM 1985 print 13b build 53b 1168592f 528771

Is it worth for 40€?
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Absolutely! And you also get a free retro gaming PC setup for some retro gaming! :)

samuelcable

02 Apr 2018, 14:45

Ivalop750 wrote: Model M? 1391405 manufactured united kingdom copyright IBM 1985 print 13b build 53b 1168592f 528771

Is it worth for 40€?
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you could probably make the money back by flipping that old hardware and get to keep the keyboard!

green-squid

02 Apr 2018, 14:48

I'd personally keep the hardware, dust out the PC and reinstall Windows 98 or XP depending on what it can handle

And puppy linux!

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Peachyhue

06 Apr 2018, 02:00

Hey boys,

This guy came in the mail today. I bought it because I fell in love with its appearance but would certainly like to know more about it. If anyone has any light to shed, I'd appreciate it greatly. Thanks for your time!

imgur album link: https://imgur.com/a/GJyFa
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Daniel Beardsmore

06 Apr 2018, 02:02


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mike52787
Alps Aficionado

06 Apr 2018, 02:05

Peachyhue wrote: Hey boys,

This guy came in the mail today. I bought it because I fell in love with its appearance but would certainly like to know more about it. If anyone has any light to shed, I'd appreciate it greatly. Thanks for your time!

imgur album link: https://imgur.com/a/GJyFa
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Wow, she's a looker that's for sure. Nice case and caps. I used to have a typewriter with these switches, I was quite unimpressed with the keyfeel though.

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Blaise170
ALPS キーボード

06 Apr 2018, 15:35

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PlacaFromHell

07 Apr 2018, 00:28

Someone know the switches or at least what is this thing?
https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/ML ... gos-58-_JM
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kbdfr
The Tiproman

07 Apr 2018, 08:10

PlacaFromHell wrote: Someone know the switches or at least what is this thing?
https://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/ML ... gos-58-_JM
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Oh come on, using Google cannot be so difficult.
Detailed info here:
http://www.johnwolff.id.au/calculators/ ... ogos58.htm

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Daniel Beardsmore

07 Apr 2018, 12:48

This one is even worse:

http://www.johnwolff.id.au/calculators/ ... m#Keyboard

Cherry M7 (as it was later known) came out around 1970. I'm not clear what would have been around in the late 60s — I can only think of Micro Switch SW Series. What would have been more cost effective, US-made Hall effect switches, or a motor-driven mechanical assembly?

Datanetics elastic diaphragm array was introduced in 1968, which was also maybe a bit late.

Even then, the Logos 58 above still used a complex keyboard assembly instead of the discrete switches that were definitely available at the time.

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snufflecat

07 Apr 2018, 19:54

Anyone ever heard of Targa mechanical boards?
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It looks like the model "KB-2971", which apparently has "non-latching switches". I guess that means it's not mechanical?
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Noobmaen

07 Apr 2018, 19:56

snufflecat wrote: Anyone ever heard of Targa mechanical boards?
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It looks like the model "KB-2971", which apparently has "non-latching switches". I guess that means it's not mechanical?
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Chicony 2971 rebrand, rubberdome

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PlacaFromHell

07 Apr 2018, 21:06

Daniel Beardsmore wrote: This one is even worse:

http://www.johnwolff.id.au/calculators/ ... m#Keyboard

Cherry M7 (as it was later known) came out around 1970. I'm not clear what would have been around in the late 60s — I can only think of Micro Switch SW Series. What would have been more cost effective, US-made Hall effect switches, or a motor-driven mechanical assembly?

Datanetics elastic diaphragm array was introduced in 1968, which was also maybe a bit late.

Even then, the Logos 58 above still used a complex keyboard assembly instead of the discrete switches that were definitely available at the time.
Oh, so most probably no cool switches in this thing :(

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Daniel Beardsmore

07 Apr 2018, 21:14

Latching keys are the ones that stay down when pressed. Since they were probably never used on any PC keyboard, I have no idea why the manufacturer would bother to state that. (Apple used latching alternate action switches for Alpha/Shift/Caps Lock for years, up until the AppleDesign Keyboard, which was the first Mac keyboard with entirely momentary switches.)

The only reason it would matter is if your operating system is expecting the caps lock switch to be conductive when caps lock is engaged, and the OS that cared about that was Mac OS.

What on earth is "pseudo N-key rollover"? It's either N-key rollover or it isn't.

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JP!

07 Apr 2018, 23:51

Anyone know what this keyboard is or what it goes to? I don't have this one...yet but there is nothing on the bottom as far as labels. I imagine some kind of micro switch hall effect?
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Chyros

08 Apr 2018, 00:23

The caps look pretty Micro Switch, I think.

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snacksthecat
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08 Apr 2018, 00:42

I'm a bit of a noob so sorry if this is obvious. What is this guy?

Funny coincidence: Bought this from an individual on eBay located in the Czech Republic and it looks like the board was manufactured in Waukegan, IL where I work.

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snufflecat

08 Apr 2018, 14:25

Noobmaen wrote:
snufflecat wrote: Anyone ever heard of Targa mechanical boards?
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It looks like the model "KB-2971", which apparently has "non-latching switches". I guess that means it's not mechanical?
Spoiler:
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Chicony 2971 rebrand, rubberdome
Cheers m8.

jihadu

08 Apr 2018, 18:36

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Whats this old Phillips board?

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snufflecat

08 Apr 2018, 20:26

Seller is asking $320 for this machine. Any thoughts? Worth getting and/or bidding on?
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Noobmaen

08 Apr 2018, 20:31

jihadu wrote: Image

[ Whats this old Phillips board?
I believe it is a Honeywell 102RX, ordinary rubberdome

davkol

08 Apr 2018, 21:59

Noobmaen wrote:
jihadu wrote:
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Whats this old Phillips board?
I believe it is a Honeywell 102RX, ordinary rubberdome
The Honeywell is downstream branding too; the actual manufacturer is Siam United Hi Tech, but it's a rubber dome indeed AFAIK.

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Daniel Beardsmore

08 Apr 2018, 22:38

Which reminds me, somewhere there were photos of a Cherry keyboard where they inherited the tooling from Honeywell (where the domes were on webbing). I also found this very suspect "Cherry" PDF that shows that webbing system as being Cherry NTK, and I can't recall if I ever saw that in a G83 keyboard … (I forget what the URL was now, it will be in some tab in some browser window somewhere I guess.)

[Edit: http://www.bluestarinc.com/cherry/pdfs/ ... h_tech.pdf — that is the PDF]

jihadu

09 Apr 2018, 13:46

davkol wrote:
Noobmaen wrote:
jihadu wrote:
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Whats this old Phillips board?
I believe it is a Honeywell 102RX, ordinary rubberdome
The Honeywell is downstream branding too; the actual manufacturer is Siam United Hi Tech, but it's a rubber dome indeed AFAIK.
Thanks guys. It just looked way too Model M alike I had to ask.
I came across it during my usual perusing through the classifieds. So many rubber domes. Cheers

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Myoth

09 Apr 2018, 21:16

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Does anybody know what this is ? the seller probably won't sell it without the pc but wondered what it was anyway...

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Blaise170
ALPS キーボード

09 Apr 2018, 21:27

It's a Honeywell Bull in XT layout, I would guess foam and foil based on the LED but can't confirm that.

codemonkeymike

09 Apr 2018, 21:29

Myoth wrote: Image

Does anybody know what this is ? the seller probably won't sell it without the pc but wondered what it was anyway...
It would also be quite sad if they did part that PC out. Some sort of IBM XT clone.

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Myoth

09 Apr 2018, 21:35

codemonkeymike wrote:
Myoth wrote:
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Does anybody know what this is ? the seller probably won't sell it without the pc but wondered what it was anyway...
It would also be quite sad if they did part that PC out. Some sort of IBM XT clone.
I wasn't going to anyway .. though there is a nice Goupil G5 with a nice keyboard for not that expensive but it's mssing caps :cry:

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zrrion

10 Apr 2018, 06:05

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Does anyone know about either of these? The pcb of the bottom one has "Mistumi 56 8152 a" on it but I wasn't able to find any info on that.

Walrustein

10 Apr 2018, 07:13

Can anyone identify this keyboard? I don't actually own it so this is the only photo ive got.
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