Yeah it's getting to the point where I don't report them on ebay anymore unless there's something exceptional about the listing. That said, an unconverted 5251 in really good condition just sold north of $2K. It will be interesting to see if and when equilibrium is reached for beamer pricing.Chyros wrote: ↑Pretty sure it IS happening for beamspring. As I recall there weren't anywhere NEAR as many beamers popping up as are doing nowadays.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑Solid logic. I'm still hoping that might happen for beamers someday. But realistically, I'll bet too few of them survived to the present day to make that economy of scale work.orihalcon wrote:At least auctions like this raise awareness that they can be sold for quite a bit, which will draw more out of the woodwork and bring prices down over time due to increased supply out there for sale.
Great/Interesting Finds
- digital_matthew
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Ellipse Model F62
- Main mouse: It's a Secret.
- Favorite switch: Capacative Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
- Bass
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F104 "Unsaver"
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: Beamspring / Capacitive Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0206
Really? I was actually under the impression that beamspring prices have plateaued or even slightly declined recently given how many 5251's I have seen on ebay listed for just under $1k taking a while to sell. And then there's that Cyrillic 3278 that's been sitting at just a bit above $2k for quite a while too. Wondering if the 5251 you are talking about was simply really clean on the outside or if the seller posted interior shots showing no rusty stems.digital_matthew wrote: ↑ Yeah it's getting to the point where I don't report them on ebay anymore unless there's something exceptional about the listing. That said, an unconverted 5251 in really good condition just sold north of $2K. It will be interesting to see if and when equilibrium is reached for beamer pricing.
Anyways while I was posting this I saw a restored and converted fullsize 3277 for $1.5k, same person who sold the green APL 3278 a few weeks ago.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3277-Beam- ... 3278&rt=nc
- ekeppel
- Location: Maine, USA
- Main keyboard: IBM 5251 Frankenbeam XT w/ Modified Layout
- Favorite switch: Beamspring > Capacitive BS > Alps SKCM Brown > U4T
- DT Pro Member: -
That's another from my beamspring 'harem'. I figured it was worth more than the 5251s I've sold in recent months at $1399, but hard to say. The conversion to USB on the 3277 is a bit more involved for sure.
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
- DT Pro Member: -
No such thing, the beamer's are just rising and getting higher with every model sold on Flebay .digital_matthew wrote: ↑That said, an unconverted 5251 in really good condition just sold north of $2K. It will be interesting to see if and when equilibrium is reached for beamer pricing.
They have become the runaway success in keyboards but do not work unless the new owner spends serious time in converting them, to make it usable.
- digital_matthew
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Ellipse Model F62
- Main mouse: It's a Secret.
- Favorite switch: Capacative Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Yeah it took me by surprise too. Usually a decent 5251 will fetch ~$1K, but it looks like a real bidding war was fought between two bidders, just to have a third snipe it at the last moment.Bass wrote: ↑Really? I was actually under the impression that beamspring prices have plateaued or even slightly declined recently given how many 5251's I have seen on ebay listed for just under $1k taking a while to sell. And then there's that Cyrillic 3278 that's been sitting at just a bit above $2k for quite a while too. Wondering if the 5251 you are talking about was simply really clean on the outside or if the seller posted interior shots showing no rusty stems.digital_matthew wrote: ↑ Yeah it's getting to the point where I don't report them on ebay anymore unless there's something exceptional about the listing. That said, an unconverted 5251 in really good condition just sold north of $2K. It will be interesting to see if and when equilibrium is reached for beamer pricing.
Anyways while I was posting this I saw a restored and converted fullsize 3277 for $1.5k, same person who sold the green APL 3278 a few weeks ago.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3277-Beam- ... 3278&rt=nc
You may be right, Elrick. The folks that covet these keyboards are just too deep-pocketed; it's difficult to predict an average price.
- Gamuholic
- Location: Utah
- Main keyboard: GMMK with Kailh BOX White
- Main mouse: Logitech something or other
- Favorite switch: Beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0252
My theory is that the black JX board had SKCM "Neon" Green. If you look at the pictures the slider is definitely a different shade of green on the black board than it is on the beige.
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- Location: Sweden
- Main keyboard: Custom
- Main mouse: G602
- Favorite switch: In my mind, Hi-Tek 725. In reality, BS i guess
- DT Pro Member: -
Both the beige and the black had led-cutouts on the switches. I might be wrong but I don't believe that neon greens have these.Gamuholic wrote: ↑My theory is that the black JX board had SKCM "Neon" Green. If you look at the pictures the slider is definitely a different shade of green on the black board than it is on the beige.
- Gamuholic
- Location: Utah
- Main keyboard: GMMK with Kailh BOX White
- Main mouse: Logitech something or other
- Favorite switch: Beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0252
You're right! I kept thinking "they're linear, so a cutout makes sense", but they're tactile! Doh! I don't know why that didn't register with me until nowRealityCavesIn wrote: ↑Both the beige and the black had led-cutouts on the switches. I might be wrong but I don't believe that neon greens have these.Gamuholic wrote: ↑My theory is that the black JX board had SKCM "Neon" Green. If you look at the pictures the slider is definitely a different shade of green on the black board than it is on the beige.
- UncleFan
- Location: 中国
- Favorite switch: cherry
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
Can I ask questions here? Who has bought this keyboard?
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Keyboard ... noapp=true
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Keyboard ... noapp=true
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Not me. But the caps, and to a lesser extent the PCB, look familiar. Honeywell / Micro Switch familiar. I could well be rusty, though.
- Wodan
- ISO Advocate
- Location: ISO-DE
- Main keyboard: Intense Rotation!!!
- Main mouse: Logitech G903
- Favorite switch: ALL OF THEM
- DT Pro Member: -
Clear indication it's an early Cherry board:Muirium wrote: ↑Not me. But the caps, and to a lesser extent the PCB, look familiar. Honeywell / Micro Switch familiar. I could well be rusty, though.
1) UncleFan is showing interest in the board
2) The big fat CHERRY logo on the PCB
probably M8 switches. The caps are these very early Cherry sphericals too.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
I’ll blame eBay on iPhone for photo illegibility.
Zoom and enhance!
But yeah, I’m hella rusty! Those caps got me starry eyed. Cherry really made them like that in the day?
Zoom and enhance!
But yeah, I’m hella rusty! Those caps got me starry eyed. Cherry really made them like that in the day?
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- Location: Ukraine
- Main keyboard: Topre Realforce 87UB 55g uniform
- DT Pro Member: -
M8 is sort of a low-profile switch, those caps would not fit on them, so it's probably Cherry M7.Wodan wrote: ↑Clear indication it's an early Cherry board:Muirium wrote: ↑Not me. But the caps, and to a lesser extent the PCB, look familiar. Honeywell / Micro Switch familiar. I could well be rusty, though.
1) UncleFan is showing interest in the board
2) The big fat CHERRY logo on the PCB
probably M8 switches. The caps are these very early Cherry sphericals too.
Those caps are also made by Cherry but some of them have a weird top, I wonder why those are different.
The board itself is clearly made by Cherry and not a M8 board, only flat spericals (DSA-like) were used on M8. M7 is a good guess for this board
The board itself is clearly made by Cherry and not a M8 board, only flat spericals (DSA-like) were used on M8. M7 is a good guess for this board
- snuci
- Vintage computer guy
- Location: Ontario, Canada
- DT Pro Member: 0131
- Contact:
I would wager that they are key caps that light up and are made of translucent plastic. It would be a dashboard, of sorts.hansichen wrote: ↑Those caps are also made by Cherry but some of them have a weird top, I wonder why those are different.
That's an interesting thought. I hope that the buyer is on dt and makes a post about the board so that all our questions are answered.
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- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Ibm model m
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Oh god I regret hesitating on this one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-P ... m570.l1313
It went within minutes, I didn't realize how rare the brown SKCL are.
It went within minutes, I didn't realize how rare the brown SKCL are.
- fohat
- Elder Messenger
- Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
- Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
- Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
- Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0158
My experience is that Apple Design Keyboards with attached cables are rubber dome with useless keys, while Apple Design Keyboards with detachable cables at least Alps-compatible PBT caps.UncleFan wrote: ↑
Can I ask questions here? Who has bought this keyboard?
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Keyboard ... noapp=true
That is only based on a handful of specimens, however.
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- Location: Canada
- DT Pro Member: -
Hope this guy's description on brown Alps makes you feel better:Chalba wrote: ↑Oh god I regret hesitating on this one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-Vintage-P ... m570.l1313
It went within minutes, I didn't realize how rare the brown SKCL are.
https://old.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyb ... n/e44t55b/
- Darkshado
- Location: Montréal, Québec, Canada
- Main keyboard: WASD V2 MX Clears (work); M, F, Matias, etc (home)
- Main mouse: Logitech G502 (work), G502 + CST L-Trac (home)
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring, SKCM Cream Dampened, MX Clear
- DT Pro Member: 0237
For ISO AppleDesign keyboards, the Czech Republic made ones have a fixed cable and PBT Alps mount caps. Their cables are fixed and they have three screws on the bottom.fohat wrote: ↑My experience is that Apple Design Keyboards with attached cables are rubber dome with useless keys, while Apple Design Keyboards with detachable cables at least Alps-compatible PBT caps.
That is only based on a handful of specimens, however.
(IIRC, the Mexico-made ANSI variant had ABS pad printed Alps mount caps, but don't quote me on that.)
- UncleFan
- Location: 中国
- Favorite switch: cherry
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
Yes, I think those are M7 types switches, please pay attention to those illumination keycaps. I guess it might be M4 switch.hansichen wrote: ↑That's an interesting thought. I hope that the buyer is on dt and makes a post about the board so that all our questions are answered.
Unfortunately, I didn't found any news about it.
- digital_matthew
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Ellipse Model F62
- Main mouse: It's a Secret.
- Favorite switch: Capacative Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Gotta love a keyboard with a bigass octagon key:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-and-Ra ... SwA-JbdMa6
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-and-Ra ... SwA-JbdMa6
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- Location: Italy
- DT Pro Member: -
Ok I've been searching all over to find out what that thing is, I give up, if it's a beam spring, for that price, it'll be gone in the next five secs.
https://www.ebay.it/itm/IBM-5251-tastie ... %7Ciid%3A1
https://www.ebay.it/itm/IBM-5251-tastie ... %7Ciid%3A1
- Bass
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F104 "Unsaver"
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: Beamspring / Capacitive Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0206
Maybe not the best price, but saw this interesting looking Neopost keyboard with some very colorful keycaps. Not exactly sure what switches it has but I recall seeing a very similar looking board with black alpha keycaps instead that had SCKM White Alps.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Neopost-Vintag ... 2848340423
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Neopost-Vintag ... 2848340423
- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
- DT Pro Member: 0188
- Blaise170
- ALPS キーボード
- Location: Boston, MA
- Main keyboard: Cooler Master Quickfire Stealth
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
- DT Pro Member: 0129
- Contact:
I'm the person who originally found one a Neopost board. I think it should be obvious that these were used by shipping companies on specialized POS systems with a scale (mine also came with the scale, which I still have). No the caps I sold it with weren't original - they were extras I had as I wanted to keep the shipping keycaps. The shipping keycaps are the TALLEST keys I've ever seen and also pad print, so I'm not sure that I'll ever actually use them. The scale has a serial connector and is good up to 105 pounds if I recall. Haven't tried to get that running but it would be nice since I ship a lot.Bass wrote: ↑Maybe not the best price, but saw this interesting looking Neopost keyboard with some very colorful keycaps. Not exactly sure what switches it has but I recall seeing a very similar looking board with black alpha keycaps instead that had SCKM White Alps.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Neopost-Vintag ... 2848340423
Oh that's the same person who buys my vintage stuff all the time.//gainsborough wrote: ↑https://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-Rare-Vint ... SwS2FbdSFN
.....here come the JXs I suppose..
- Blaise170
- ALPS キーボード
- Location: Boston, MA
- Main keyboard: Cooler Master Quickfire Stealth
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
- DT Pro Member: 0129
- Contact:
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Read (US Vice President?) M Pence’s review. Apparently some people really need it. Pity that board isn’t up to the task.
I’m blessed with the opposite problem: permanently warm hands. Not hot enough to damage any of my keyboards, fortunately. And I don’t run off USB…
I’m blessed with the opposite problem: permanently warm hands. Not hot enough to damage any of my keyboards, fortunately. And I don’t run off USB…
- Bass
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F104 "Unsaver"
- Main mouse: Logitech G9x
- Favorite switch: Beamspring / Capacitive Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0206
Ah, so that was your board. Out of curiosity, do you have any pictures of the keycaps still? When I think of tall keycaps I generally think of spherical since most cylindrical profiles I know of (with the exception of IBM Buckling Spring) tend to be rather short.Blaise170 wrote: ↑I'm the person who originally found one a Neopost board. I think it should be obvious that these were used by shipping companies on specialized POS systems with a scale (mine also came with the scale, which I still have). No the caps I sold it with weren't original - they were extras I had as I wanted to keep the shipping keycaps. The shipping keycaps are the TALLEST keys I've ever seen and also pad print, so I'm not sure that I'll ever actually use them. The scale has a serial connector and is good up to 105 pounds if I recall. Haven't tried to get that running but it would be nice since I ship a lot.\Bass wrote: ↑Maybe not the best price, but saw this interesting looking Neopost keyboard with some very colorful keycaps. Not exactly sure what switches it has but I recall seeing a very similar looking board with black alpha keycaps instead that had SCKM White Alps.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Neopost-Vintag ... 2848340423