Round 4 / packing (99.8%) / shipping (99.7%)

[7bit]

it's the same content as STANDARD, only with the German alpha keys instead of the US ones.
I don't think there will be anything missing as in the pricelist both STANDARD and STANDARDDE are listed with 158 keys. (Maybe only missing an ANSI enter as trade-off for the additional "<>|" key thats not present at ANSI)

EDIT:
and btw. @7bit:
There still seems to be something wrong with your script and the recieved payments.
I already paid you 83€, but my update-mails show 83$ so it seems like it doesn't convert the currencies.
And therefore the ammount that I still have to pay at your mails is wrong.

Yes, I know. Also I've got to update this data....

fixed.

[7bit]

...

1) Since prices have been bumped significally, can I change my order, and in that case where can I see the prices including fees for ***DK sets?

Yes, you can cahnge it any time you want.

2) Is it corect, that I should pay ($340/2) - $114 = $56 in order to follow the instructions?

No.

3) I thought the idea of "paying half" was to ensure people were serious about making the payment, and to see if certain sets could be lowered in price. I must say I feel sort of "tricked" since the prices in my case increase by 50% after I paid half of the original invoice.

Melissa comes up with all different sorts of price-schemes and price levels. Until I got the invoice I don't really know how much it will really be.

I'm only a fraction away from skipping ALL the stupid languge specific crap (from DE to NEO -- everything)!

These are a pain in the ass!

4) When can I expect my keys from the Unicomp mini group buy, ordered and paid for 9 months ago?

This might sound negative, but I appreciate you taking the time to do this, 7bit!

/peder

I don't now. Write me a message about what you paid and I will refund you the costs.

[pederlol]

Thanks for the answers. I sincerely hope you do not cancel the language kits.

I'll look into changing the orders.

/peder

[mintberryminuscrunch]

since this is THE LAST CHANCE for language specific doubleshots you should promote it a little more.
the gh groupbuys will not offer any European layouts, ANSI only.
oh.. and obviously they are a good investment^^

[rodtang]

Is RETRO/ISO all of DE, DK, SE, FI, NO and cost $14 less than if you were to just buy the caps you need?

[7bit]

Is RETRO/ISO all of DE, DK, SE, FI, NO and cost $14 less than if you were to just buy the caps you need?

No it is a compromise kit which is not 100% of any of DE, DK, SE, FI, NO.

I post a layout graphic ...

[pederlol]

Hey, that is pretty sweet.

If all us nordics and german jump on this, maybe the fee will disappear.

[mintberryminuscrunch]

Hey, that is pretty sweet.

If all us nordics and german jump on this, maybe the fee will disappear.

+1
It's a great idea

[nick_knife]

why dont u just order STANDARDSE? cheaper anyway isnt it?

[pederlol]

why dont u just order STANDARDSE? cheaper anyway isnt it?

No, because there are to few xxxSE and xxxDK orders, so the fee is far greater than bying a standard set and the xxx/ISO set if there are no fees... does that make sense?

Do we know how many orders will cancel the fee?

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@nick, because see thread. cheaper it appears, won't be since small order quantity bonus. if all iso freaks take this kit instead, bonusses disappear for all de/se/whatever orders. theoretically.ninja'd

@thread/7bit: halp
Back again, don't want to, but probably will, join in to order some of these beauties.
But, after reading the wiki pages again I'm still unclear on a lot of things..
*which kits are now under moq, i.e. get extra fees added to listed prices?
*is there really no 'function' kit for retro?
*is there really no 'terminal' kit for retro?
*is the coffe mug (sympause?) in any other kit than the full 'standardsym' kit?
*what does the print-key symbol variant look like?
*does 'gamer' really not include the 'q' but an 'f' for row 2?
*these are really available?: -dark/geekhack/orange -retro/wasd/orange -retro/wasd/grey
*how could you possibly think super&meta sound better than win&menu, or better yet, win&meta?

all questions have been checked with pics from the wiki, so if they sound dumb; that's the images confusing.

[rindorbrot]

Do we know how many orders will cancel the fee?

In my latest update mail it says it skips the fee if you order 3x the same kit. Not the exact answer to your question but still, depending on the current height of the fees that might be an option, too.

[nick_knife]

sry but STANDARDSE is definitely cheaper than STANDARD + ISO KIT even with the fee O_o

[7bit]

sry but STANDARDSE is definitely cheaper than STANDARD + ISO KIT O_o

Yes. BTW: Take 3 and save the low qty fee!

[nick_knife]

is there a possibility to get a reverse noir alpha set? black letters on white keys?

[7bit]

Do we know how many orders will cancel the fee?

In my latest update mail it says it skips the fee if you order 3x the same kit. Not the exact answer to your question but still, depending on the current height of the fees that might be an option, too.

If one user orders say 3x NOIR/SE the fee will go away for that order.

The steps are:
1 to 2 orders (price<25): price*3.7+2
1 to 2 orders (price>=25): price*2.4+2
3 to 5 orders (price<25): price*2+1
3 to 5 orders (price>=25): price*1.6+1
6 to 11 orders: price*0.85+1
12 to 24 orders: price*0.6+1/2
25 to 50 orders: price*0.3

Orders for TERMINAL to TKL or ALPHA and many more stuff already included in these kits are excluded from this low qty fee.

For languge kits I double the orded quantity to look up the extra fee, so if there are 5 orders, the script looks for the value for 10 orders.

[pederlol]

It would be super super duper, if we could see, which kits qualify for non-fee kits. Yeah, right now standardSE might be cheaper, but I don't think that's the case with standardDK...

[7bit]

is there a possibility to get a reverse noir alpha set? black letters on white keys?

Will be available in Round 5.

[7bit]

It would be super super duper, if we could see, which kits qualify for non-fee kits. Yeah, right now standardSE might be cheaper, but I don't think that's the case with standardDK...

There is a prcielist somehere in the wiki.
There is a statistic attached to each reply mesage when you order.

I'm quite sure that DK and SE where the same price.

[pederlol]

Yeah well... I'll try and figure out stuff. Thanks!

[nick_knife]

is there a possibility to get a reverse noir alpha set? black letters on white keys?

Will be available in Round 5.

are u just jokin on me? couldnt be so hard to get that? i mean noir is the same style are retro isnt it? so isnt that the same as RETRO/ALPHA/BLACK/WHITE 1 ? Argh ._. i finally made up my mind and now that set doesnt exist :/

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RETRO/ALPHA/BLACK/WHITE 1 ? Argh ._. i finally made up my mind and now that set doesnt exist :/

Might be easier to hit up ascaii for those doubleshot sets of his, normal colours hence black on milkwhite. Might not match perfectly fontwise but will probably look like you want.
edit: awriiiiiite it's not white

[7bit]

is there a possibility to get a reverse noir alpha set? black letters on white keys?

Will be available in Round 5.

are u just jokin on me? couldnt be so hard to get that? i mean noir is the same style are retro isnt it? so isnt that the same as RETRO/ALPHA/BLACK/WHITE 1 ? Argh ._. i finally made up my mind and now that set doesnt exist :/

I will not add new color-styles.

[nick_knife]

I will not add new color-styles.

didnt u say r4 is the last time u do that? so the chance to get that is like non existent

[7bit]

I will not add new color-styles.

didnt u say r4 is the last time u do that? so the chance to get that is like non existent

I will do group buys, but never again with so many options.

[nick_knife]

I will not add new color-styles.

didnt u say r4 is the last time u do that? so the chance to get that is like non existent

I will do group buy, but never again with so many options.

well but according to my experience nobody wants white keys so yea that design might not be of any interest at all for your next group buy :/

[Icarium]

ffs we need a simple website for this....
I have forgotten what I ordered again and I might not need it anymore now that I scored a red alert set.

[7bit]

ffs we need a simple website for this....
I have forgotten what I ordered again and I might not need it anymore now that I scored a red alert set.

Just send DUMMY to 7bit_R4 and get a DUMMY kit and new invoice for free!!!

[rindorbrot]

I already sent like 4 dummy messages today, but still got no update...

edit: OK, now it's here

[off]

7bit,
Please shed some light; I haven't found the answers in this thread nor the wiki:
RETRO/GAMER/GREY-----41 keys --- 25$
So this 39 key set is what? and 3x'F' and no 'Q', usure?
Also pages back you mentioned putting arrow keys for wasd places in one of these kits; has that happened (and is that part of the reason that '39' set has become 41; if so, what keys changed from the pic)?
ZaFuQ- there's also this image of yet another set called retro/gamer... 42 keys though, and has--- see for yourself.
pic has been uploaded yesterday actually.. now I'm getting worried. row2: Z, F; row3: Q (and J and F with nubs which are already part of standard and tenkless sets)
So what does 'gamer' really include?

what----------------------keys---$
RETRO/SYMRGBYSTD-----30---41 n/a Modifier RGBY Symbols kit
RETRO/SYMRGBYTKL-----30---31 n/a Modifier RGBY Symbols kit
Same kit? Guess the STD should be more expensive or the other cheaper, how much?

'back space' will be embedded like that, not as one word? (finds your gh poll; Backspace 14votes 51.85%)

"6 to 11 orders: price*0.85+1" this goes for single caps too (so stuff <25 a piece)?

There's a lot more questions but I just spend 4+ hours staring through pages regarding round4, and now I'm blank.