In my experience, the ones that I have had have not been very smooth. It's also entirely possible it's one of the dozen or so clones of the SMK design that exist. And I have no idea what that DIN connector might speak. It's probably a weird, proprietary protocol.dionb wrote: ↑18 Sep 2019, 00:21Are SMK Vintage switches supposed to be even remotely smooth? These aren't in any event, and the build quality (plastic used in the cross) looks lower than on pics of SMK Vintage switches.Yep, those are the switches! In fact not just the switches - those keycaps are the same design too, with the square front and rounded back, and same font.Lbibass wrote: ↑17 Sep 2019, 23:56[...]
Took me a while, but I had torsion spring in my head… I couldn't figure out why.
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Here you go! Phillips Torsion spring switches.
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They are exactly the same as yours.
Looks like a Philips board then.
Any idea what kind of system they came from, and what that DIN-19 connector might talk? I recently made my own controller for an Osborne Variant 1 with 20 pin connector - that just passively fed the key matrix out of the cable. If this did the same it should be easy to get something hooked up. However there seems to be a bit more logic on this board than on the Osborne.
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- Location: America
- Main keyboard: It varies.
- Main mouse: MX Ergo
- Favorite switch: VINTAGE SHIT
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- PlacaFromHell
- Location: Argentina
- Main keyboard: IBM 3101
- Main mouse: Optical piece of shit
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
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Just curious about the switches of this computer:
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- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Very possibly some kind of Mitsumi and square Mitsumi mount, but the slider is different from the Mitsumi standard mechanical with Mitsumi-mount that I have seen.
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- Location: Brazil
- Main keyboard: Corsair K65
- Main mouse: Logitech G300s
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Red
Any idea what this might be/about the switches inside? Its in quite rough shape, but it looks interesting.
(It says SCOPUS on the top).
(It says SCOPUS on the top).
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- PlacaFromHell
- Location: Argentina
- Main keyboard: IBM 3101
- Main mouse: Optical piece of shit
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
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Most likely yes, but the slider is different and it has a weird version of the skinny green Alps. I saw the same switches in some Mitsumi-made keyboards, so they can be an undocumented variant.
At this point I don't really know if I want it, vintage computers are so cool but the hobby itself is quite expensive and I don't really know what to do with a national version of an MSX BASIC.
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- Location: America
- Main keyboard: It varies.
- Main mouse: MX Ergo
- Favorite switch: VINTAGE SHIT
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Do you have a photo of the keyboard?
Here are the photos. I hope you can view them. First time posting
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https://ibb.co/DKkPrGt
https://ibb.co/37JF5V8
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- Location: Poland
- Main keyboard: Cooler Master Quick Fire Pro
- Main mouse: Contour RollerMouse Red
- Favorite switch: Blue APLS
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Any ideas what kind of switches this keyboard have?
Westrex International KBQ2400, it looks like some POS keyboard as shown in the photo https://web.archive.org/web/20001030080 ... yboard.htm
Westrex International KBQ2400, it looks like some POS keyboard as shown in the photo https://web.archive.org/web/20001030080 ... yboard.htm
- zrrion
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: F122
- Main mouse: Microsoft IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCC Cream
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My guess is MX blacks, as the caps look like dcs caps.
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- Location: Poland
- Main keyboard: Cooler Master Quick Fire Pro
- Main mouse: Contour RollerMouse Red
- Favorite switch: Blue APLS
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I got the photo of the switch, mount looks cherry MX compatible but it definitely is not mx switch, my guess right now is that switch is variation of slider with rubber dome, or some clone - Can anybody confirm my suspicion.
Seller says that it have nice click (maybe he means sound of bottoming out), and it is definitely not a futaba switch.
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- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
- SneakyRobb
- THINK
- Location: Canada
- Main keyboard: KB-5161A, F122, Dc2014, Typeheaven, Beamspring FXT
- Main mouse: MX518 Legendary
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Hi, For fun I called the Westrex International Office in Boston. Took quite a few tries to get a human. They seem to just maintain POS printers and are a tiny size compared to before. Not sure how many people even work there.
The guy at Westrex said that they closed their keyboard manufacturing facility 15 years ago and have no documentation about their keyboards.
What he did say though was that they manufactured almost every part of their POS keyboards in-house.
He wasn't able to say what parts were made in house and what weren't though.
My guess is they did not make at least the keycaps.
If you acquire the board, I am now very curious as to what is inside.
The guy at Westrex said that they closed their keyboard manufacturing facility 15 years ago and have no documentation about their keyboards.
What he did say though was that they manufactured almost every part of their POS keyboards in-house.
He wasn't able to say what parts were made in house and what weren't though.
My guess is they did not make at least the keycaps.
If you acquire the board, I am now very curious as to what is inside.
- snufflecat
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: Model M
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Anyone recognize the ICL board(s) here? Worth getting?
- ppCircle
- Location: Polska
- Main keyboard: Focus Fk-2002 HS Alps Blue / IBM 5140 Alps Brown
- Main mouse: Rival 300
- Favorite switch: Alps Blue / Alps Amber / Alps Brown / Alps N Green
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- swampangel
- Location: Canada
- Main keyboard: Northgate Omnikey 101
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https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94063.0 suggests rubberdome, but it's maybe not authoritative
- snufflecat
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: Model M
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Thanks. I bought two and noticed that the second one with the red markings on the keycaps had a peculiar placed escape-key, but as far as I know that's not really indicative of anything. Buys like these are usually a gamble, but that's part of the fun…swampangel wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 13:50https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94063.0 suggests rubberdome, but it's maybe not authoritative
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- Location: Finland
- Favorite switch: NEC blue oval
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A friend of mine had a board like the top two ICLs and it felt mushy, linear and unlikable.snufflecat wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 16:00Thanks. I bought two and noticed that the second one with the red markings on the keycaps had a peculiar placed escape-key, but as far as I know that's not really indicative of anything. Buys like these are usually a gamble, but that's part of the fun…swampangel wrote: ↑01 Oct 2019, 13:50https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94063.0 suggests rubberdome, but it's maybe not authoritative
(he liked it though)
- snufflecat
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: Model M
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- snufflecat
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: Model M
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Also, anyone have experience with the Cromemco C-10? Or at least can make a guesstimate on the keyboard?
- snuci
- Vintage computer guy
- Location: Ontario, Canada
- DT Pro Member: 0131
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I have a Cromemco C10 (sadly, no floppy drives). I'll see if I can take a look at the keyboard tonight.snufflecat wrote: ↑02 Oct 2019, 15:42Also, anyone have experience with the Cromemco C-10? Or at least can make a guesstimate on the keyboard?
- snuci
- Vintage computer guy
- Location: Ontario, Canada
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The Cromemco C-10 keyboard is Oak Full-Travel Membrane.
- snufflecat
- Location: Norway
- Main keyboard: Model M
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- User101
- Location: South California
- Main keyboard: IBM 3278
- Main mouse: Kensington pro trackball
- Favorite switch: BeamSpring
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The oak membrane is a very nice switch. Dont look at the name, I have two boards with this type switch and they're all very smooth linear.