Yeah the thing is the most valuable part of that board is the rare keycaps, which falls drastically if you don't have a complete set and missing a spacebarcakeanalytics wrote: ↑09 Oct 2020, 23:20Missing that many keys and still asking for $5000?!
The balls of certain sellers...
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- Redmaus
- Gotta start somewhere
- Location: Near Dallas, Texas
- Main keyboard: Unsaver | 3276 | Kingsaver
- Main mouse: Kensington Slimblade
- Favorite switch: Capacitative Buckling Spring
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Filco
- Main mouse: Steelseries
- Favorite switch: Futaba
- DT Pro Member: -
Well it's a rarer 88-key variant which is slightly wider than rather common 87-key ones. Of course, still expensive though.Redmaus wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 08:49Yeah the thing is the most valuable part of that board is the rare keycaps, which falls drastically if you don't have a complete set and missing a spacebarcakeanalytics wrote: ↑09 Oct 2020, 23:20Missing that many keys and still asking for $5000?!
The balls of certain sellers...
- inmbolmie
- Location: Spain
- Main keyboard: Model M SSK
- Main mouse: Some random Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0230
- Contact:
Well, I'm not pretty sure here. Are those the usual double-shots?Redmaus wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 08:49Yeah the thing is the most valuable part of that board is the rare keycaps, which falls drastically if you don't have a complete set and missing a spacebarcakeanalytics wrote: ↑09 Oct 2020, 23:20Missing that many keys and still asking for $5000?!
The balls of certain sellers...
Look like, either standard double shots covered with some kind of lacquer badly applied with a brush (some FPx legends still visible), or may it be that the legends themselves are painted and partially wear-off. In the second case the value for me would be near to zero. Also there are marks of additional stickers over some keys.
You all know there recently was a cyrillyc 3278 on ebay with similar shit https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1222 ... 88097.html
What's going on here?
- JP!
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Currently a Model M
- Main mouse: Steel Series Sensei
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0194
- Contact:
[Sold] Model F AT - BIN
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-PE ... SwxlJfgakD
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-PE ... SwxlJfgakD
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- darkcruix
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Brand New Model F F77 Keyboard
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Master
- Favorite switch: Ellipse version of Buckling Spring / BeamSpring
- DT Pro Member: 0209
Great one. The find is a bit high, but I think they have settled at this level now.JP! wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 14:37Model F AT - BIN
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-PE ... SwxlJfgakD
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
Arguably, it could have gone for more if the ebayer didn't say "RJ45 Connector" in the ad.darkcruix wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 14:48Great one. The find is a bit high, but I think they have settled at this level now.JP! wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 14:37Model F AT - BIN
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-PE ... SwxlJfgakD
- JP!
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Currently a Model M
- Main mouse: Steel Series Sensei
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0194
- Contact:
It was a BIN and not an auction style listing.hellothere wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 16:02Arguably, it could have gone for more if the ebayer didn't say "RJ45 Connector" in the ad.
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
Arguably, it could have gone for more if the ebayer had it as an auction, rather than as a BIN.JP! wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 16:15It was a BIN and not an auction style listing.hellothere wrote: ↑10 Oct 2020, 16:02Arguably, it could have gone for more if the ebayer didn't say "RJ45 Connector" in the ad.
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- Location: Seattle, US
- Main keyboard: TOFU 65%
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: Box Jade
Sperry/Univac board, probably with Microswitch
Seller somehow read as "Unnac" lol
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174476324836
Seller somehow read as "Unnac" lol
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174476324836
- Damonskv
- Location: Russia
- Main keyboard: KMAC 1
- Main mouse: Cst 2545
- Favorite switch: beamsprings
- DT Pro Member: 0198
wiki/Sperry_UNIVAC_UDS-2000_2502 uses ITW magnetic valvecakeanalytics wrote: ↑13 Oct 2020, 02:01Sperry/Univac board, probably with Microswitch
Seller somehow read as "Unnac" lol
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174476324836
- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
A Cherry G80-3000 HAMDE, i.e. with doubleshot keycaps and 1.25u modifiers:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/284041889380
https://www.ebay.de/itm/284041889380
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- Location: Texas
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Model 130
- Main mouse: Logitech M-S48, Razer Viper
- Favorite switch: MX Browns
- DT Pro Member: -
This ball is great, the lower shell is welded aluminum, the top plate is a machined casting, the buttons "plate" is machined, the switches are massive, click, and seem to have lights to illuminate the white buttons, and instead of using spokes and optical encoders it uses servos(!?)
I'm very happy. If you like big ball I highly reccomend, the wiring is clean so conversion should be pretty easy.
I'm very happy. If you like big ball I highly reccomend, the wiring is clean so conversion should be pretty easy.
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- JP!
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Currently a Model M
- Main mouse: Steel Series Sensei
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0194
- Contact:
That is baller. I had this on my watchlist but after you posted this I pulled the trigger on one. I love how overbuilt and industrial this is. Also I have a special project in mind where a trackball would be perfect but this is even better since it has buttons.Rayndalf wrote: ↑14 Oct 2020, 02:24This ball is great, the lower shell is welded aluminum, the top plate is a machined casting, the buttons "plate" is machined, the switches are massive, click, and seem to have lights to illuminate the white buttons, and instead of using spokes and optical encoders it uses servos(!?)
I'm very happy. If you like big ball I highly reccomend, the wiring is clean so conversion should be pretty easy.
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- Location: Texas
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Model 130
- Main mouse: Logitech M-S48, Razer Viper
- Favorite switch: MX Browns
- DT Pro Member: -
Yeah, it's beyond over built. I am confident it was built for mission critical military applications at this point (radar or flight control, and it wouldn't be out of place in a missile control room either).
It has 5 bearings (which are very firmly screwed down) which were obscured by a brass plate to keep debris off the PCB. Instead of twist or zip ties the cables were tied with leather cord(!?) and there are two seperate grounding points.
If I paid the higher prices I've seen for these elsewhere I wouldn't even feel bad
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- Location: Texas
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Model 130
- Main mouse: Logitech M-S48, Razer Viper
- Favorite switch: MX Browns
- DT Pro Member: -
The feel improved a lot once I took the top ring off, cleaned the plastic part of it and rubbed my fingers over the bearings until they started spinning again. The screws are small but the slots are wide, so a piece of electrical tape on one side of the screw driver head kept it from mangling the screws.
New bearings and or lube and new foam for the rollers would go a long way, but either way it's a 3 inch ball (so if I want to find a glass ball it's gonna cost me).
I need to stop posting here and just start a thread on the mouse board
New bearings and or lube and new foam for the rollers would go a long way, but either way it's a 3 inch ball (so if I want to find a glass ball it's gonna cost me).
I need to stop posting here and just start a thread on the mouse board
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- JP!
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Currently a Model M
- Main mouse: Steel Series Sensei
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0194
- Contact:
That's crazy. Seems like most trackballs only have 3 bearings. These should last forever. I would hate to see what these originally cost us taxpayers
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- Location: Texas
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Model 130
- Main mouse: Logitech M-S48, Razer Viper
- Favorite switch: MX Browns
- DT Pro Member: -
I can't even imagine. Assuming it was Government -> Contractor for system/installation -> Measurement System Incorporated and it was billed to the government as "cost plus" (they bill the Government whatever it costs plus a certain percentage) they'd have every reason to go above and beyond mil-spec to create something immortal (I swear this casting is as thick as a small engine block).
My guess is that they designed it in the early 80's and stuck with it, but they may have also used older parts with proven reliability. I can't really fault the process, but I'm not sure building input devices to last 50 150+ years (except for the foam) makes any sense when the system it controls will be replaced after 15-20.
As wasteful as it is I love to see what engineers and designers do when the cost of a system is so high that they can justify making the "perfect" input device for it.
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- Location: Seattle, US
- Main keyboard: TOFU 65%
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: Box Jade
Displaywriter beamspring, BIN at $999
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293783994433?ul_noapp=true
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293783994433?ul_noapp=true
- JP!
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Currently a Model M
- Main mouse: Steel Series Sensei
- Favorite switch: Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0194
- Contact:
cakeanalytics wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020, 16:53Displaywriter beamspring, BIN at $999
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293783994433?ul_noapp=true
- inmbolmie
- Location: Spain
- Main keyboard: Model M SSK
- Main mouse: Some random Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0230
- Contact:
Attack of the Clones!JP! wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020, 17:26cakeanalytics wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020, 16:53Displaywriter beamspring, BIN at $999
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293783994433?ul_noapp=true
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- Location: Seattle, US
- Main keyboard: TOFU 65%
- Main mouse: Logitech G502
- Favorite switch: Box Jade
Shows up as sold now.
Would be funny if he lists it again tomorrow.
Would be funny if he lists it again tomorrow.
- Redmaus
- Gotta start somewhere
- Location: Near Dallas, Texas
- Main keyboard: Unsaver | 3276 | Kingsaver
- Main mouse: Kensington Slimblade
- Favorite switch: Capacitative Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
Definitely weird how many beamsprings end up with multiple listings, I know that shady chinese seller does it but not sure why other sellers are doing the same thingcakeanalytics wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020, 20:43Shows up as sold now.
Would be funny if he lists it again tomorrow.
Also 3278 just listed on ebay at auction, already with one bid at $800:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-17 ... SwscFfiI8c
- Weezer
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM F122
- Main mouse: Dell 0KKMH5
- Favorite switch: IBM buckling spring & beam spring
People going nuts on this keyboard. Betting this thing will end up $2000+Redmaus wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020, 23:33Definitely weird how many beamsprings end up with multiple listings, I know that shady chinese seller does it but not sure why other sellers are doing the same thingcakeanalytics wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020, 20:43Shows up as sold now.
Would be funny if he lists it again tomorrow.
Also 3278 just listed on ebay at auction, already with one bid at $800:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-17 ... SwscFfiI8c
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- ekeppel
- Location: Maine, USA
- Main keyboard: IBM 5251 Frankenbeam XT w/ Modified Layout
- Favorite switch: Beamspring > Capacitive BS > Alps SKCM Brown > U4T
- DT Pro Member: -
Two Omnikey 101s for $40 + shipping. One working, one not. The non-working one may be fixable, or if you need some white Alps...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324335746956
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324335746956
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
Hercon Magnetic Hall Sensor keyboard BIN $150.
I'm assuming both Czech key layout and Hall-Effect, based on the notes in the ad. Very pretty keys.
I'm assuming both Czech key layout and Hall-Effect, based on the notes in the ad. Very pretty keys.
Spoiler:
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
$1075, now.Weezer wrote: ↑16 Oct 2020, 01:31People going nuts on this keyboard. Betting this thing will end up $2000+Redmaus wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020, 23:33Definitely weird how many beamsprings end up with multiple listings, I know that shady chinese seller does it but not sure why other sellers are doing the same thingcakeanalytics wrote: ↑15 Oct 2020, 20:43Shows up as sold now.
Would be funny if he lists it again tomorrow.
Also 3278 just listed on ebay at auction, already with one bid at $800:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-17 ... SwscFfiI8c
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- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
Leading Edge DC-2014 Mechanical Keyboard Alps SKCM Blue Switches
Already at $169 US / $223 Canadian. It's also a little yellowed.
Already at $169 US / $223 Canadian. It's also a little yellowed.
Spoiler:
- NeK
- Location: Greece, Athens
- Main keyboard: Filco Majestouch 2 w/ blue mx, CM Storm brown mx
- Main mouse: FK2
- Favorite switch: SMK and Blue MX
20 bids with 8 days left. This is going to be a massacre at the end.hellothere wrote: ↑16 Oct 2020, 03:18Leading Edge DC-2014 Mechanical Keyboard Alps SKCM Blue Switches
Already at $169 US / $223 Canadian. It's also a little yellowed.Spoiler:
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- Location: Czech Republic
- Main keyboard: BTC 5169
- Main mouse: CZC GM600
- Contact:
Cyrillic, not Czech. Zbrojovka made a bunch for Russian speaking countries, but there are latin versions also.hellothere wrote: ↑16 Oct 2020, 03:13Hercon Magnetic Hall Sensor keyboard BIN $150.
I'm assuming both Czech key layout and Hall-Effect, based on the notes in the ad. Very pretty keys.
Spoiler: