Best cheap keyboards?
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
I have recently gotten into keyboard collecting and am a little suck on where to start. Does anyone have any good recommendation for a keyboard for around 25-35 GBP. I personally like tactile and clicky switches but I don't mind linears. Any recommendation's would be greatly appreciated!!!
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- Location: London
- Main keyboard: Wy-60
- Favorite switch: Vint Black baby FIGHT ME!
some cheap chinese brand like Royal kludge or Drevo or Dragon st st should be around that range, most of them are blue - clicky though.
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- Location: Czech Republic
- Main keyboard: BTC 5169
- Main mouse: CZC GM600
- Contact:
Current, or vintage?
- TNT
- Location: Germany, Karlsruhe
- Main keyboard: Ellipse Model F77 / Zenith Z-150
- Main mouse: Logitech G203 Prodigy
- Favorite switch: It's complicated
- DT Pro Member: 0250
You could try to shoot for a cheap Alps board, like for example the Ortek MCK-101. I've seen those things float around on (german) ebay for around 30€ before.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
I personally prefer vintage
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
- ddrfraser1
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Changes weekly
- Main mouse: MX MASTER
- Favorite switch: Lubed 55g BKE Redux Domes
- Contact:
BTC 5130 ie Packard bell keyboards
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
I have been thinking about BTC. I saw an auction of a BTC 5207 and was thinking about getting it.
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- Location: London
- Main keyboard: Wy-60
- Favorite switch: Vint Black baby FIGHT ME!
that's a tough price point for vintage, i guess some apple extended keyboard II or Dell at102 could go that low but in general you kind of have to look around 50 ish quid
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
I remember seeing an AEKII for like 20 GBP on eBay once. Still wish I had gone and bought itntv242ver2 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2020, 21:39that's a tough price point for vintage, i guess some apple extended keyboard II or Dell at102 could go that low but in general you kind of have to look around 50 ish quid
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
Both of them are BTC dome with slider. They're definitely not bad. I've got a BTC under my desk and it's better than some mechanical keyboards I've used. It's tactile.
Watch out for BTC boards with 6-pin DIN connectors.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
.hellothere wrote: ↑27 Nov 2020, 22:55Both of them are BTC dome with slider. They're definitely not bad. I've got a BTC under my desk and it's better than some mechanical keyboards I've used. It's tactile.
Watch out for BTC boards with 6-pin DIN connectors.
Very interesting. I have heard quite a lot of good things from BTC as well
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
I bought it mainly because Chyros has mentioned that they're pretty decent. It's a 5100c in black & grey. I got it for $50 US, shipped.
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- Location: Czech Republic
- Main keyboard: BTC 5169
- Main mouse: CZC GM600
- Contact:
An Ortek with green Alps clones was actually my first mechanical keyboard. I like the switches a lot and the case itself is not terrible, but it's quite noisy.
Even though I got several Alps boards since, white included, I'm currently using a BTC dome with slider and it's great.
I would recommend it over the Dell AT101 for instance. Unless black Alps are incredibly better when brand new, I think the BTC is a much nicer tactile switch.
(I linearized my bigfoot and linearized blacks are quite nice, if a bit light.)
Even though I got several Alps boards since, white included, I'm currently using a BTC dome with slider and it's great.
I would recommend it over the Dell AT101 for instance. Unless black Alps are incredibly better when brand new, I think the BTC is a much nicer tactile switch.
(I linearized my bigfoot and linearized blacks are quite nice, if a bit light.)
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
Chyro actually got me into keyboards in the first place! I've heard some people compare 5100c to Topre and even say their on the level of Alps switches. I'm definitely gonna keep a look out for them.hellothere wrote: ↑27 Nov 2020, 23:04I bought it mainly because Chyros has mentioned that they're pretty decent. It's a 5100c in black & grey. I got it for $50 US, shipped.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
I've heard from quite a few people that AT101's (at least at the price they are now) are not worth it at all. looking at the price they are on places like eBay and I get their pointJan Pospisil wrote: ↑27 Nov 2020, 23:20An Ortek with green Alps clones was actually my first mechanical keyboard. I like the switches a lot and the case itself is not terrible, but it's quite noisy.
Even though I got several Alps boards since, white included, I'm currently using a BTC dome with slider and it's great.
I would recommend it over the Dell AT101 for instance. Unless black Alps are incredibly better when brand new, I think the BTC is a much nicer tactile switch.
(I linearized my bigfoot and linearized blacks are quite nice, if a bit light.)
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
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- Location: Texas
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Model 130
- Main mouse: Logitech M-S48, Razer Viper
- Favorite switch: MX Browns
- DT Pro Member: -
I'd strongly reccomend buying a lightly used keyboard made by a "gamer" brand like Logitech, Corsair, or Razer from Reddit (r/hardwareswap or r/mechmarket), other retailers or locally.
If you find vintage boards locally you could find a great deal, but vintage stuff in your price range probably will have flaws (weird layout, nonmechanical switches, lacks N-key rollover), or requires a convertor to work with a modern machine.
Better to get a rock solid first board so you can shop around for the perfect vintage board later once you have a better idea what you like.
If you find vintage boards locally you could find a great deal, but vintage stuff in your price range probably will have flaws (weird layout, nonmechanical switches, lacks N-key rollover), or requires a convertor to work with a modern machine.
Better to get a rock solid first board so you can shop around for the perfect vintage board later once you have a better idea what you like.
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
If you're looking at new stuff, I can personally recommend the very inexpensive Velocifire. An awful lot of folks say that Redragon is also pretty decent. If you have a soldering iron, save up a bit more cash then replace the switches with Kailh Box Jade Thick Clicks.
If you're looking for used, but not used up, Rayndalf's suggestions are pretty good. I've also owned a Corsair and Logitech keyboards. Make sure they have mechanical switches before buying and not "mechanical feel" or "mech membrane" or whatever they're calling rubber domes this week.
There are a lot of folks that sell stuff on this forum that are from the UK or European Union.
If you're looking for used, but not used up, Rayndalf's suggestions are pretty good. I've also owned a Corsair and Logitech keyboards. Make sure they have mechanical switches before buying and not "mechanical feel" or "mech membrane" or whatever they're calling rubber domes this week.
There are a lot of folks that sell stuff on this forum that are from the UK or European Union.
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
Velocifire has pretty bad stabilizers though. But they are Cherry standard.
- Weezer
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM F122
- Main mouse: Dell 0KKMH5
- Favorite switch: IBM buckling spring & beam spring
If you'd like a model M, I would give you a M122 for the price of shipping, but it would be shipped from the USA so that may still be cost prohibitive.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
I have heard some good things about the Velocifire and I think getting a hot swappable keyboard at some point would be a good idea. I have heard a lot of people talk about the Redragon. Also a funny story about the "mechanical feel" and "mech membrane" keyboards I saw one on eBay for like 60 pounds and it was some cheap office membrane keyboard and it was described as an "ASMR CLICKING GAMER KEYBOARD MECHANICAL TYPE MEMBRANE SWITCH KEYBOARD" and that is to date the greatest eBay auction I've ever seen.hellothere wrote: ↑28 Nov 2020, 16:45If you're looking at new stuff, I can personally recommend the very inexpensive Velocifire. An awful lot of folks say that Redragon is also pretty decent. If you have a soldering iron, save up a bit more cash then replace the switches with Kailh Box Jade Thick Clicks.
If you're looking for used, but not used up, Rayndalf's suggestions are pretty good. I've also owned a Corsair and Logitech keyboards. Make sure they have mechanical switches before buying and not "mechanical feel" or "mech membrane" or whatever they're calling rubber domes this week.
There are a lot of folks that sell stuff on this forum that are from the UK or European Union.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
that sounds like quite a good deal. I might take you up on that (but I'd probably have to do it some time in late December or early January)
- Weezer
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM F122
- Main mouse: Dell 0KKMH5
- Favorite switch: IBM buckling spring & beam spring
Sure, that's no problem. If you end up taking me up on the offer, you'd just have to promise that if you decide to sell it, that you sell it for what you paid, so that someone else can enjoy the keyboard at a reasonable price.
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
Am I bad for liking them? The ones on my Velocifires are the "fake switch" kind, rather than metal wire. Those keyboards are a couple years old and construction may have changed a bit.abrahamstechnology wrote: ↑28 Nov 2020, 17:01Velocifire has pretty bad stabilizers though. But they are Cherry standard.
I just pulled out one of the 'Fires, which does have a standard Cherry bottom row, and compared it to the keyboard I'm typing on, a Wang 724/725. The Wang has about a 7u spacebar (left goes a little past C and right end goes about 3/4 past the > key). The 'Fire is almost or exactly the same size. My Apple Standard Keyboards have a dinky spacebar ...
I do agree with you if you're talking about extra long keys and I prefer wire stabilizers on those, like on my 9u Cumulus terminal keyboard.
@Kneeboard, if you can handle the shipping and have an appropriate adapter, that M122 will spoil you. Try to get that worked out. Maybe someone can proxy that for you
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Bloody B740S/RK Royal Kludge/NMB RT101+
- Main mouse: Glorious Model O. Bloody A70
- Favorite switch: ALPS SKCM WHITE
Will try to do that as soon as I can!hellothere wrote: ↑29 Nov 2020, 00:18Am I bad for liking them? The ones on my Velocifires are the "fake switch" kind, rather than metal wire. Those keyboards are a couple years old and construction may have changed a bit.abrahamstechnology wrote: ↑28 Nov 2020, 17:01Velocifire has pretty bad stabilizers though. But they are Cherry standard.
I just pulled out one of the 'Fires, which does have a standard Cherry bottom row, and compared it to the keyboard I'm typing on, a Wang 724/725. The Wang has about a 7u spacebar (left goes a little past C and right end goes about 3/4 past the > key). The 'Fire is almost or exactly the same size. My Apple Standard Keyboards have a dinky spacebar ...
I do agree with you if you're talking about extra long keys and I prefer wire stabilizers on those, like on my 9u Cumulus terminal keyboard.
@Kneeboard, if you can handle the shipping and have an appropriate adapter, that M122 will spoil you. Try to get that worked out. Maybe someone can proxy that for you
- Keybug
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: so many!
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s; trackballs suck
- Favorite switch: Kailh box royals, trampoline-modded
- DT Pro Member: 0208
Get one of those Hexgears hot-swappable keyboards from AliExpress and have a great time trying out different switches. People often sell leftover switches for cheap. If you can get around 30-40 of one kind, that's enough to put them on the letter keys and really get a feel for them to find out what you like.
I can sell you a BTC-5100 Mini (German layout) if you want one. Shipping from Germany, though.
I also have a ton of Futaba clickies boards you can have for a tenner each. There may be some others I could throw in for another tenner, like vintage MX blue.
I can sell you a BTC-5100 Mini (German layout) if you want one. Shipping from Germany, though.
I also have a ton of Futaba clickies boards you can have for a tenner each. There may be some others I could throw in for another tenner, like vintage MX blue.