Design files are public for anyone to order PCBs on their own.
FSSK PCBs (1st round)
- Weezer
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM F122
- Main mouse: Dell 0KKMH5
- Favorite switch: IBM buckling spring & beam spring
Alright, but the membrane isn't soft. It's three solid, paper-thin sheets of plastic resting against the metal backplate. The key feel is mostly a product of the length of the flippers and the stiffness of the spring. The key mechanism is a form of lever, and the flipper acts as a load on that lever, so the heavier the load, the less force is needed to tip the lever. This can be noted by setting one Model M flipper and one Model F flipper straight upright and observing how the Model F flipper will tip over on its own accord, and how the Model M flipper will stay exactly upright, or by directly inserting a Model M flipper into a Model F barrel and noting the key feel. In addition, the increased surface area of the flipper corresponds with a greater actuation sound, and increased haptic feedback since a wider piece of plastic is slapping around. So if you were to successfully transfer existing Model M flippers to a Model F hybrid, it would feel nearly, if not entirely identical to a Model M.cheater wrote: ↑19 Dec 2020, 04:182. I have a feeling that if the M flippers were directly contacting a rigid pcb, instead of through a soft membrane, the key feel would change. But I don't know for sure. If it does, then this could be an improvement to the key feel without having to sacrifice any F's.
- dcopellino
- Location: Italia - Napoli
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F400 brushed chrome
- Main mouse: Logitech laser wired
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0229
- Contact:
- idollar
- i$
- Location: Germany (Frankfurt area)
- Main keyboard: IBM F or M
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: -
Hello,
We are thinking on a second round ... look at this
viewtopic.php?p=496563#p496563
If you are interested, I could organise it. We could also work on a PCM with the controller integrated.
Please let me know if you are indeed interested.
Cheers
i$
We are thinking on a second round ... look at this
viewtopic.php?p=496563#p496563
If you are interested, I could organise it. We could also work on a PCM with the controller integrated.
Please let me know if you are indeed interested.
Cheers
i$
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- Location: Italy
- DT Pro Member: -
I'd be interested in this, but I have no ssk case... I have a lot of F keyboards and barrels, but no case.idollar wrote: ↑10 Dec 2021, 02:41Hello,
We are thinking on a second round ... look at this
viewtopic.php?p=496563#p496563
If you are interested, I could organise it. We could also work on a PCM with the controller integrated.
Please let me know if you are indeed interested.
Cheers
i$
Now that the NEW ssk is available, is it possible to buy just the case? I'm in Italy, and I use ISO :-/
- idollar
- i$
- Location: Germany (Frankfurt area)
- Main keyboard: IBM F or M
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: -
Hi Gianni,
Check my latest post: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=26629&p=496611#p496611
I am planning to work again on the FSSK, this time using the "mini m" from unicomp
You already have the difficult part to source (F barrels). The case is not an issue at all. My issue has always been these barrels.
Regarding the ISO: this is the only way to go ... you have also mapped the useless caps-lock to CTL, don't you ?
If you are interested, please think on contributing also to the design phase (if this goes ahead)
Cheers
i$
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Still some love for the classic SSKs among us too, I hope! Mine’s still waiting from when I ordered back with Lot Lizard but only ever got a refund.
- wcass
- Location: Columbus, OH, USA
- Main keyboard: ibm model m
- Main mouse: kensington expert mouse
- Favorite switch: buckeling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0185
I ordered the new SSK and it is nice ... except for that annoying thing with the Q key (which i hear they have a firmware fix for). I promptly ripped off the tenons (melted plastic studs) to look at the membranes and LEDs. I worked up a 16 x 6 matrix that is elegantly simple. The only issue is/was the new mini-M barrel frame. It has some ... plastic bits in the way that will need to be trimmed off. i purchased some cutters to see if they can remove the impediment, but have not had free time yet. I took the last two weeks of the year off work, so maybe then.
oh yeah, almost forgot. the tenon hole pattern on the back plate is the same for SSK and Mini-M, so one pad card should work for both.
oh yeah, almost forgot. the tenon hole pattern on the back plate is the same for SSK and Mini-M, so one pad card should work for both.
- idollar
- i$
- Location: Germany (Frankfurt area)
- Main keyboard: IBM F or M
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: -
Thanks a lot for the very valuable information, wcass !
I am trying to get one in Europe. I posted my WTB here: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=26629
Do you know how to source it without having to pay for the extra import taxes and shipping ?
I am located in Germany.
These plastic bits should not be a big issue. Good news.wcass wrote: ↑11 Dec 2021, 03:10I ordered the new SSK and it is nice ... except for that annoying thing with the Q key (which i hear they have a firmware fix for). I promptly ripped off the tenons (melted plastic studs) to look at the membranes and LEDs. I worked up a 16 x 6 matrix that is elegantly simple. The only issue is/was the new mini-M barrel frame. It has some ... plastic bits in the way that will need to be trimmed off. i purchased some cutters to see if they can remove the impediment, but have not had free time yet. I took the last two weeks of the year off work, so maybe then.
Great. This was one of my big worries.
I am trying to get one in Europe. I posted my WTB here: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=26629
Do you know how to source it without having to pay for the extra import taxes and shipping ?
I am located in Germany.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Annoyingly, Keyboardco doesn't have it among their Unicomp models. Also, they're in England so out of the customs union now, so not much better than importing yourself from America.
- idollar
- i$
- Location: Germany (Frankfurt area)
- Main keyboard: IBM F or M
- Favorite switch: BS
- DT Pro Member: -
Thanks a lot Mu,Muirium wrote: ↑11 Dec 2021, 10:59Annoyingly, Keyboardco doesn't have it among their Unicomp models. Also, they're in England so out of the customs union now, so not much better than importing yourself from America.
I already checked them ... I came to them from the "resellers" page in unicomp.
- shine
- Location: EU - Spain
- Main keyboard: F122
- Main mouse: Deathadder Elite
- Favorite switch: Beamspring
- Contact:
could this be done in a mopar?