Great/Interesting Finds
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
That second Omnikey you mention is $175 + $35 shipping. That's pretty high for an unrestored Omnikey.
There's another Zeeeenith for $140, in bad shape. Also, according to the Wiki, ZeeeeKB-2s did come with Mitsumi Mini Mechanical, so I'd recommend asking the seller to pry off a cap before bidding.
There's another Zeeeenith for $140, in bad shape. Also, according to the Wiki, ZeeeeKB-2s did come with Mitsumi Mini Mechanical, so I'd recommend asking the seller to pry off a cap before bidding.
- thefarside
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F107
- Main mouse: Old, boring Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
I purchased the Gold Label Omni Key, so I guess I’m contributing to the problem. I didn’t actually win the auction but the winner didn’t respond and I was offered the keyboard as a second chance offer. The seller said the gold label has sold for up to $750 which I thought was crazy, but it seems like the sky is the limit these days. Physically It’s in good condition and the switches feel great. Being my first blue Alps I can’t comment on how good they are, but they sound and feel excellent. I’ve heard blue and pine white Alps are similar and can confirm they sound and feel very similar to my pine white Alps FK-2001. If they were in the same chassis it would be hard to tell them apart. Sadly the Omni Key isn’t working, so I’ll have to diagnose why it doesn’t initialize...hellothere wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 18:34This Leading Edge DC-3014 is at $520 US with more than a day to go.dr-lipschitz wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 11:40The last few <blue Alps keyboards> I've seen sell went over 300. Prices are getting nuts.
Historical record:
Least expensive complete (i.e. not missing parts) USED blue Alps KB SOLD on ebay US: $180.
Leading Edge DC-2014. Needs cleaning.
Most expensive complete (i.e. not missing parts) USED blue Alps KB SOLD on ebay US: $320. Northgate Omni Key "Gold Label." Also needs cleaning.
Most expensive, no qualifications, blue Alps KB SOLD on ebay US: $549.
NOS Ortek OEMMAX MCK-860.
- TNT
- Location: Germany, Karlsruhe
- Main keyboard: Ellipse Model F77 / Zenith Z-150
- Main mouse: Logitech G203 Prodigy
- Favorite switch: It's complicated
- DT Pro Member: 0250
Yeah, I agree. But I figured I might post it anyway, maybe they will have to relist it for a lower price.hellothere wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 21:09That second Omnikey you mention is $175 + $35 shipping. That's pretty high for an unrestored Omnikey.
Doesn't ship to Germanyhellothere wrote: ↑26 Mar 2021, 21:09There's another Zeeeenith for $140, in bad shape. Also, according to the Wiki, ZeeeeKB-2s did come with Mitsumi Mini Mechanical, so I'd recommend asking the seller to pry off a cap before bidding.
Nvm, it's even missing its left foot.
Also, regarding the one I linked: Is this considered to be a "normal" prize for a ZKB-2? I figured they are popular, but thaat popular?
- hellothere
- Location: Mesa, AZ USA
- Main keyboard: Lots
- Main mouse: CST2545W-RC
- Favorite switch: TopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlpsHallEffectTopreAlps
> Also, regarding the one I linked: Is this considered to be a "normal" price for a ZKB-2?
ebay global historical data for Zenith green Alps:
Highest: $510 US (Zenith INEQ)
Lowest: $105 US (Zenith Z-150)
There's a "parts" ZKB-2 that sold for all of $45. I don't know if that one had yellow or green Alps.
Subtracting the $510 one and the $105 one from consideration, a decent condition Zenith with green Alps is about $175 to $225. YMMV. ebay records for closed ads go back only a month or three. I don't subscribe to their analytics service, so I have no other records.
I also just did a search on sold ebay auctions and "green Alps keyboard" and found only one non-Zenith: a Chicony 5160. Sold for $121.21. There may be a little bit of an extra markup on Zenith KBs because of Chyros' video and/or because the badges look neat. That INEQ badge is quite nice. Not an extra $300 nice, mind you.
I really like my lubed yellow Alps keyboard and my linearized black Alps (Chyros mentions that linearized blacks are very similar to greens) KB is also quite nice, but my Steel Series Apex Pro Hall-effect keyboard is noticeably smoother. If I ever can find the right case and enough time, I'm going to sell both the yellow and black KBs.
ebay global historical data for Zenith green Alps:
Highest: $510 US (Zenith INEQ)
Lowest: $105 US (Zenith Z-150)
There's a "parts" ZKB-2 that sold for all of $45. I don't know if that one had yellow or green Alps.
Subtracting the $510 one and the $105 one from consideration, a decent condition Zenith with green Alps is about $175 to $225. YMMV. ebay records for closed ads go back only a month or three. I don't subscribe to their analytics service, so I have no other records.
I also just did a search on sold ebay auctions and "green Alps keyboard" and found only one non-Zenith: a Chicony 5160. Sold for $121.21. There may be a little bit of an extra markup on Zenith KBs because of Chyros' video and/or because the badges look neat. That INEQ badge is quite nice. Not an extra $300 nice, mind you.
I really like my lubed yellow Alps keyboard and my linearized black Alps (Chyros mentions that linearized blacks are very similar to greens) KB is also quite nice, but my Steel Series Apex Pro Hall-effect keyboard is noticeably smoother. If I ever can find the right case and enough time, I'm going to sell both the yellow and black KBs.
- Polecat
- Location: Downstream from Silicon Valley
- Main keyboard: Monterey K104 Industrial Gray
- Main mouse: Logitech Optical
- Favorite switch: Early Alps SKCM
- DT Pro Member: -
It's a minor point, but Northgate sold the FK-555 and the 102 (and the FK-727) concurrently, at least for a while.
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- ddrfraser1
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Changes weekly
- Main mouse: MX MASTER
- Favorite switch: Lubed 55g BKE Redux Domes
- Contact:
It’s stupidly difficult to resist the urge to buy this even though I already own 2
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- Location: austria
- Main keyboard: ibm model m
- Main mouse: Logitech G500s
- Favorite switch: not sure yet
need one should be german layout :S
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- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
It soldddrfraser1 wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 00:19It’s stupidly difficult to resist the urge to buy this even though I already own 2
I wonder if it was someone on here who bought it.
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- Location: United States
Ebay is weird. This 87 key 3276 (same as 3278) just bid to 2450 https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3276-Contr ... 4907326040
But this 75 key has been at $2500 for a few weeks now https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3278-Beams ... 4617208430
Usually the 75 keys are more desirable
But this 75 key has been at $2500 for a few weeks now https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3278-Beams ... 4617208430
Usually the 75 keys are more desirable
- Keybug
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: so many!
- Main mouse: Logitech G700s; trackballs suck
- Favorite switch: Kailh box royals, trampoline-modded
- DT Pro Member: 0208
Old luggable with rare USw LMBW02 switches. Pity the whole assembly is in such a dilapidated state...
- inmbolmie
- Location: Spain
- Main keyboard: Model M SSK
- Main mouse: Some random Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0230
- Contact:
Apparently it is hard to press the button on expensive BIN items, but easy to engage in bidding wars over no reserve auctions.dr-lipschitz wrote: ↑28 Mar 2021, 20:17Ebay is weird. This 87 key 3276 (same as 3278) just bid to 2450 https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3276-Contr ... 4907326040
But this 75 key has been at $2500 for a few weeks now https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-3278-Beams ... 4617208430
Usually the 75 keys are more desirable
- Polecat
- Location: Downstream from Silicon Valley
- Main keyboard: Monterey K104 Industrial Gray
- Main mouse: Logitech Optical
- Favorite switch: Early Alps SKCM
- DT Pro Member: -
It's obviously not worth the price unless someone else wants it almost as badly as you do.
I've always had fun bidding on ebay, but strangely I've known people who won't bid on anything, they'll only purchase buy-it-now items.
I've always had fun bidding on ebay, but strangely I've known people who won't bid on anything, they'll only purchase buy-it-now items.
What a joke! Worse paint job I've ever seen I hope it was not this Orihalcon dude who painted it. LMAO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PARTS-ONLY-MOD ... 890.l49292
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PARTS-ONLY-MOD ... 890.l49292
- ekeppel
- Location: Maine, USA
- Main keyboard: IBM 5251 Frankenbeam XT w/ Modified Layout
- Favorite switch: Beamspring > Capacitive BS > Alps SKCM Brown > U4T
- DT Pro Member: -
I doubt it. And btw, Orihalcon is a fixture here who has contributed a great deal to the DT community.Amontillado777 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 01:24What a joke! Worse paint job I've ever seen I hope it was not this Orihalcon dude who painted it. LMAO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PARTS-ONLY-MOD ... 890.l49292
You mean contributing to the skyrocketing price?
ekeppel wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 01:26I doubt it. And btw, Orihalcon is a fixture here who has contributed a great deal to the DT community.Amontillado777 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 01:24What a joke! Worse paint job I've ever seen I hope it was not this Orihalcon dude who painted it. LMAO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PARTS-ONLY-MOD ... 890.l49292
- wobbled
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: HHKB PD-KB300 Pro 1
- Main mouse: Logitech MX Master 3
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0192
Orihalcons a good guy, his prices have definitely gone up in recent years though at least through ebay. I'm sure he'd offer discounts to anyone PMing him through DT as he's been nothing but fair to me in the past.
As for that paint job, he writes in the description that he took it to a local place to get powdercoated, and they fucked it up.
As for that paint job, he writes in the description that he took it to a local place to get powdercoated, and they fucked it up.
- Weezer
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: IBM F122
- Main mouse: Dell 0KKMH5
- Favorite switch: IBM buckling spring & beam spring
Orihalcon is a good guy and he's been the only one willing to be a consistent supply of model m and f converters over the years. He's cut me some good deals in the past but he's not about to get ripped off. His price isn't totally unreasonable for a keyboard as rare as that.Amontillado777 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 01:28You mean contributing to the skyrocketing price?ekeppel wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 01:26I doubt it. And btw, Orihalcon is a fixture here who has contributed a great deal to the DT community.Amontillado777 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 01:24What a joke! Worse paint job I've ever seen I hope it was not this Orihalcon dude who painted it. LMAO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PARTS-ONLY-MOD ... 890.l49292
- ddrfraser1
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Changes weekly
- Main mouse: MX MASTER
- Favorite switch: Lubed 55g BKE Redux Domes
- Contact:
Doesn’t matter how bad the paint job is, you can powerdercoat it no problem
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- DT Pro Member: -
Never realised focus 2001/2002 ALPS has black version until now, and NOS condition gets another score.
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200 ... olid=11111
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200 ... olid=11111
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- Location: Des Moines / Cedar Falls, IA, USA
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F107
- DT Pro Member: 0190
Hey all, I can't say that I really know what the going rate is on F107's these days, but I also don't want to just list stuff that sells immediately at a price that I "guess" to be a fair price, hence no buy it now on that one. The last complete unconverted F107 I believe sold for around $3500 at auction about two months ago, but I question whether the buyer paid or not as I was not the seller, though I also didn't see it pop back up for sale. I figured an auction would be the best way to determine what the market value really is.
I did actually guess at fair buy it nows for a Zenith ZTX-1 and OKI Gourd spring board this evening and both of those sold within about an hour of being listed, so that makes me question my opinion of prices even more these days
I assume the black powder coated one is probably worth maybe 1/2 of whatever the complete F107 goes for since many people add their own caps and paint anyway and sourcing AT/F122 style barrels shouldn't be too hard I don't think. I may adjust the price once I see what the complete F107 finishes at, or I'll just lower the price by $50 a week until it sells.
Definitely didn't mean to offend anyone! Ultimately, I'm trying to get the market price rather than raising the market price by listing that F107 at auction. The black F107 I suppose I could have waited to list until after the auction was finished though
I did actually guess at fair buy it nows for a Zenith ZTX-1 and OKI Gourd spring board this evening and both of those sold within about an hour of being listed, so that makes me question my opinion of prices even more these days
I assume the black powder coated one is probably worth maybe 1/2 of whatever the complete F107 goes for since many people add their own caps and paint anyway and sourcing AT/F122 style barrels shouldn't be too hard I don't think. I may adjust the price once I see what the complete F107 finishes at, or I'll just lower the price by $50 a week until it sells.
Definitely didn't mean to offend anyone! Ultimately, I'm trying to get the market price rather than raising the market price by listing that F107 at auction. The black F107 I suppose I could have waited to list until after the auction was finished though
- Polecat
- Location: Downstream from Silicon Valley
- Main keyboard: Monterey K104 Industrial Gray
- Main mouse: Logitech Optical
- Favorite switch: Early Alps SKCM
- DT Pro Member: -
That's an exact twin to the one I bought new back in the '90s, except mine has a U.S./FCC label instead of an "international" one. Be aware that mine came with printed caps (the legends wore off quickly), not the normal Focus doubleshots.John Doe wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 02:48Never realised focus 2001/2002 ALPS has black version until now, and NOS condition gets another score.
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200 ... olid=11111
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- Location: United States
rare and coveted things increase in price as more people desire to get their hands on them. that will continue to happen as the keyboard community grows. A product is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. as long as there is no false advertising or deception, there is nothing wrong with a seller getting what he can for it.Amontillado777 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 01:28You mean contributing to the skyrocketing price?ekeppel wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 01:26I doubt it. And btw, Orihalcon is a fixture here who has contributed a great deal to the DT community.Amontillado777 wrote: ↑29 Mar 2021, 01:24What a joke! Worse paint job I've ever seen I hope it was not this Orihalcon dude who painted it. LMAO
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PARTS-ONLY-MOD ... 890.l49292
I've bought from Orihalcon before, and every time it has been a pleasant experience. and as far as the price on this f-107 goes, I think it is a good price. I almost bought it myself, but I have too many projects already as it is.
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- TNT
- Location: Germany, Karlsruhe
- Main keyboard: Ellipse Model F77 / Zenith Z-150
- Main mouse: Logitech G203 Prodigy
- Favorite switch: It's complicated
- DT Pro Member: 0250
Hey man, speaks even more for you but I don't think you need to apologize or feel the need to justify your pricing decisions.
Here's an IBM 5150 including its Model F XT keyboard for the EU pals: https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 5-228-1720
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- Location: Australia
- Main keyboard: F77
- Main mouse: Kensington Expert Mouse/MX Master 3
- Favorite switch: Alps SKFL
Nice price for a beamspring https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Be ... 101224.m-1
- thefarside
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM 4704 F107
- Main mouse: Old, boring Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
- inmbolmie
- Location: Spain
- Main keyboard: Model M SSK
- Main mouse: Some random Logitech
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0230
- Contact:
Noooooo!, Delete this post, it's just the books and tapes!!!
There is no computer at all for sale, the seller apparently likes a lot to put misleading images into his auctions.