Why didn't I think of that...Icarium wrote:Uhhm....I'll take one prototype please.
Split ergonomic keyboard project
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- Main keyboard: doxKB
- Main mouse: G700
- Favorite switch: ergo clear
- DT Pro Member: -
pingbat/PrinsValium: The flippable pcb is a good idea but I don't have much time to do it.
Spharax: I was supposed to add those but I forgot . It's not that much work, I will add them to the model.
pingbat: The 2 halves are connected with I2C and a TRRS (4 pin) jack/cable.
hoggy/Icarium: I will probably put the model available to public on shapeways soon.
Spharax: I was supposed to add those but I forgot . It's not that much work, I will add them to the model.
pingbat: The 2 halves are connected with I2C and a TRRS (4 pin) jack/cable.
hoggy/Icarium: I will probably put the model available to public on shapeways soon.
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- Location: Stockhom, Sweden
- Main keyboard: Symmetric Stagger Board
- Main mouse: Kinzu
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
I could help out with the PCB design if you want me to. But I really don't want to barge in on your project, taking credit, telling you how to do things and such... You are using some company specific format for the PCB at the moment I believe. It may be nice doing it in a program with proper gerber support instead as well I think. But a complete redesign of the PCB would also not have been "prototyped".
The truth is I did pretty much of the PCB design already. It was pretty quick since I have some structure to keyboard designing already. There are always a lot more work left than you imagine though...
It is the power transfer between the halves that requires to be jumpered. Since the connectors will be mounted on the top on both halves and the cable is straight (I suppose) the leads will be flipped.
The truth is I did pretty much of the PCB design already. It was pretty quick since I have some structure to keyboard designing already. There are always a lot more work left than you imagine though...
It is the power transfer between the halves that requires to be jumpered. Since the connectors will be mounted on the top on both halves and the cable is straight (I suppose) the leads will be flipped.
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- Location: indonesia
- Main keyboard: μtron
- Favorite switch: topre 30g
- DT Pro Member: -
Great.. now I'm drooling on my HHKB ...
any timeline for mass production?
any timeline for mass production?
- wiredPANDA
- Location: US
- Main keyboard: Leopold FC200RT/AWN
- Main mouse: anything...
- Favorite switch: MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: -
Been watching this develop for a while now, and I can honestly say I'm interested and waiting for production. Haven't found myself pulled to an ergo boards, as much as, this one.
Nice job, dox.
Nice job, dox.
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- Main keyboard: filco majestouch 2 TKL white keycaps
- Main mouse: Logitech G500
- Favorite switch: mx blue
- DT Pro Member: -
Great work i might be interested in one also, but im a bit curious about the different materials available. Which material is that one and how do you like it?
How would this layout work with ISO?
How would this layout work with ISO?
- Icarium
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: These fields just
- Main mouse: opened my eyes
- Favorite switch: I need to bring stuff to work
- DT Pro Member: -
It's a different layout. It will take some getting used to. I don't think it makes sense to stick with the large enter key (if that's what you mean by ISO) because there is not really any point to it and you're already going through some sort of transition period.
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- Main keyboard: filco majestouch 2 TKL white keycaps
- Main mouse: Logitech G500
- Favorite switch: mx blue
- DT Pro Member: -
I was thinking of a swedish charset keyboard where you have åäö on the right of the "p"-key. I dont mind the placement of the enter key on the ergodox, in fact i think its more intuitive.Icarium wrote:It's a different layout. It will take some getting used to. I don't think it makes sense to stick with the large enter key (if that's what you mean by ISO) because there is not really any point to it and you're already going through some sort of transition period.
Im guessing you could just remap the keys on the right side to åäö and be happy about it:p
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- Location: Stockhom, Sweden
- Main keyboard: Symmetric Stagger Board
- Main mouse: Kinzu
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
The thing is we swedes need to put 'Å' and 'Ä' somewhere, in addition to the standard characters in the English alphabet. 'Ö' takes ';'s place in the Swedish layout.
These extra characters of course is a problem on every minimalistic keyboard layout. On dox's current layout there seem to be a lot of keys that are duplicate between the two halves. So it might not be a big deal to fit our extra vowels somewhere.
These extra characters of course is a problem on every minimalistic keyboard layout. On dox's current layout there seem to be a lot of keys that are duplicate between the two halves. So it might not be a big deal to fit our extra vowels somewhere.
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- Main keyboard: filco majestouch 2 TKL white keycaps
- Main mouse: Logitech G500
- Favorite switch: mx blue
- DT Pro Member: -
Awesome, there are so many possibilities:) then its just a matter of choosing switches/keycaps/material;)
Prinsvalium: What are we seeing, redesigned it for mirrored layout?
Prinsvalium: What are we seeing, redesigned it for mirrored layout?
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- Location: Stockhom, Sweden
- Main keyboard: Symmetric Stagger Board
- Main mouse: Kinzu
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
Yes, that as well as drawing it up in a proper PCB CAD software.. The KiCAD printing functions really sucks. Screen shots are the easiest way to display anything =P But I am getting there. That IO-expander is bit bulky though...
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- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro2, CM QFS MX Green, SSK, ErgoDox (MX Blue)
- Main mouse: CST L-Trac X, Logitech MX518,
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring, MX Green
- DT Pro Member: -
Those pictures are pure sex! I was sad that Geekhack was down and I couldn't follow this thread anymore, but thank god I remembered to check deskthority's workshop forums!
dorkvader: I am already in for one (I am going to get that one definitely, as I have increasing problems with my right hand), and I might take a 2nd one, depending on the final price.
dorkvader: I am already in for one (I am going to get that one definitely, as I have increasing problems with my right hand), and I might take a 2nd one, depending on the final price.
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- Main keyboard: doxKB
- Main mouse: G700
- Favorite switch: ergo clear
- DT Pro Member: -
Good start PV! I have a few observations.
- There is a missing mounting hole near the thumb keys on the left of the pcb.
- The stabilizers are not required. It feel much better without them. Instead, we could have the option to place two 1x keys instead of one 2x. I remember someone asking for this.
- The inner pins on the teensy are not used. Maybe you could place the mpc23018 "inside" the teensy footprint?
- With the reset and ground pins accessible on the teensy, we don't need access to the reset button. The access hole would only work when the teensy is on the left hand. There is a "jump to bootloader" key in the firmware too.
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- Location: Stockhom, Sweden
- Main keyboard: Symmetric Stagger Board
- Main mouse: Kinzu
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
First if all, I feel a bit relieved you are this open with everything =)dox wrote:Good start PV! I have a few observations.
- There is a missing mounting hole near the thumb keys on the left of the pcb.
- The stabilizers are not required. It feel much better without them. Instead, we could have the option to place two 1x keys instead of one 2x. I remember someone asking for this.
- The inner pins on the teensy are not used. Maybe you could place the mpc23018 "inside" the teensy footprint?
- With the reset and ground pins accessible on the teensy, we don't need access to the reset button. The access hole would only work when the teensy is on the left hand. There is a "jump to bootloader" key in the firmware too.
- That hole isn't quite there in the blueprints... I was guessing that dimple there was supposed to be the same radius as the mounting holes. And now I see from the exprressPCB drawings that this probably is the case.
- The stabilizers should be possible to combine with optional 1X keys. That requires some changes to the matrix though.. You should have told me sooner, didn't want to mess with it too much, trying to keep my intrusion as unnoticed as possible ;D
- I am removing Teensy pins as I see no need for them, modifying the matrix may give rise to some rearrangement still.
- I just finished a mail to "ic07" asking about swapping pins. I had the same idea placing the footprints on top of each other. But then it really helps having the corresponding pins next to each other.
- domoaligato
- Location: Mountlake Terrace, WA ,USA
- Main keyboard: QFR with Reds
- Main mouse: SS Sensei
- Favorite switch: reds
- DT Pro Member: -
I am following this thread as well and would definitively want to buy 1-2 of them.
- dorkvader
- Main keyboard: Unicomp
- Main mouse: CST 1550
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring over Capacitave. (Model F)
- DT Pro Member: -
I'm busy until this evening, but the list is updated until here (I think). I'll update my post with the new names later.
Here's who I have from DT (with witty comments about interest in parentheses). Please PM or post here if I've missed you somehow.
From DT
01. Webwit................1. (I'm in for one if it comes to a group buy.)
02. jakobcreutzfeldt......1. (Too "mad" to be marked yet)
03. xbb...................1. (Thanks added to list)
04. jcrouse...............1. ("I want one list")
05. pingbat...............1. (utron dreams)
06. forcefollow...........1. (one to replace his drool-damaged HHKB
07. wiredPANDA............1. (Watches it develop)
08. domoaligato...........1-2(from following this thread)
Here's who I have from DT (with witty comments about interest in parentheses). Please PM or post here if I've missed you somehow.
From DT
01. Webwit................1. (I'm in for one if it comes to a group buy.)
02. jakobcreutzfeldt......1. (Too "mad" to be marked yet)
03. xbb...................1. (Thanks added to list)
04. jcrouse...............1. ("I want one list")
05. pingbat...............1. (utron dreams)
06. forcefollow...........1. (one to replace his drool-damaged HHKB
07. wiredPANDA............1. (Watches it develop)
08. domoaligato...........1-2(from following this thread)
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- Location: Stockhom, Sweden
- Main keyboard: Symmetric Stagger Board
- Main mouse: Kinzu
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
If it ends up using a PCB designed by me I need to have at least a couple to save for reference. I don't think I will be needing any case... Edit: designed might be stretching it.. Put into KiCAD, let's say =)
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- Main keyboard: doxKB
- Main mouse: G700
- Favorite switch: ergo clear
- DT Pro Member: -
http://ErgoDox.org
Any CSS wizard?
Any CSS wizard?
Code: Select all
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- dorkvader
- Main keyboard: Unicomp
- Main mouse: CST 1550
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring over Capacitave. (Model F)
- DT Pro Member: -
Wow, looks pretty good, though the about page returns 500.
I don't do CSS, but will you be selling the kits via the new 'site, or is it just for information? It could also be used to track interest. If DT went down and my HDD crashed, and my flash drive got lost, I would lose the interest list.
I don't do CSS, but will you be selling the kits via the new 'site, or is it just for information? It could also be used to track interest. If DT went down and my HDD crashed, and my flash drive got lost, I would lose the interest list.
- domoaligato
- Location: Mountlake Terrace, WA ,USA
- Main keyboard: QFR with Reds
- Main mouse: SS Sensei
- Favorite switch: reds
- DT Pro Member: -
get google docsdorkvader wrote:Wow, looks pretty good, though the about page returns 500.
I don't do CSS, but will you be selling the kits via the new 'site, or is it just for information? It could also be used to track interest. If DT went down and my HDD crashed, and my flash drive got lost, I would lose the interest list.
- domoaligato
- Location: Mountlake Terrace, WA ,USA
- Main keyboard: QFR with Reds
- Main mouse: SS Sensei
- Favorite switch: reds
- DT Pro Member: -
edit attempt number 3: wow I am tired.
http://ethanschoonover.com is using less from http://lesscss.org/ and http://html5boilerplate.com/
here is a link to a downloadable MSFT visual studio 2010 project with ASP.NET MVC 3/.net 4.0
http://www.jondavis.net/techblog/post/2 ... plate.aspx
then replace the css in this base project with the one from here...
https://github.com/altercation/ethansch ... /style.css
http://ethanschoonover.com is using less from http://lesscss.org/ and http://html5boilerplate.com/
here is a link to a downloadable MSFT visual studio 2010 project with ASP.NET MVC 3/.net 4.0
http://www.jondavis.net/techblog/post/2 ... plate.aspx
then replace the css in this base project with the one from here...
https://github.com/altercation/ethansch ... /style.css