Canon Keyboard

steve_gorden88 · 19 Jul 2012, 20:09

Hello,

anyone of you knows this Keyboard from Canon?

It has black alps with tactile and click.

Greetings

Findecanor · 19 Jul 2012, 20:17

Looks like Acer switches. Light and clicky: hammer over membrane.
I've seen the same keyboard before but with other branding.

mintberryminuscrunch · 19 Jul 2012, 20:17

looks familiar
http://stephan.win31.de/alcatel-top.jpg
the acer branded keyboards of this model have blue Alps btw.
pps. http://sandy55.fc2web.com/keyboard/acer_kb101a.html

steve_gorden88 · 19 Jul 2012, 20:52

ok, thanks.

do you mean it is still worth something?

itlnstln · 19 Jul 2012, 21:04

It's a nice keyboard, to be sure. Acer switches are pretty decent.

If you think you're going to pull IBM M15 numbers by selling it... well... prepare to be disappointed.

steve_gorden88 · 19 Jul 2012, 21:27

alps and acer switch is not the same?

RC-1140 · 19 Jul 2012, 21:33

I've seen these keyboards with various brandings. Sometime ago somebody posted about a thread about some McDonnell Douglas branded ones with Blue ALPS (here it is), and I own an Alcatel branded one with complicated ALPS. I still wonder about the Keycaps. My guess would be pad printed ABS.

steve_gorden88:
well, you have to differenciate ALPS switches, and ALPS clones/lookalikes. Only the old complicated ones were manufactured by ALPS Electronics, most others have been produced by various companies. Acer produced some on their own, and these are now called Acer Switches, as for some other ALPS switches you don't know the company.

steve_gorden88 · 19 Jul 2012, 21:50

I have to of them and i want to sell one and for that it will be helpfull to now which switch it is, i think.

itlnstln · 20 Jul 2012, 12:55

steve_gorden88 wrote:I have to of them and i want to sell one and for that it will be helpfull to now which switch it is, i think.

I believe those are Acer switches (I can't seem to find a picture right at this moment to verify). They certainly are not ALPS of any variety that I know of, however.

Charlie_Brown_MX · 20 Jul 2012, 14:41

RC-1140 wrote:I've seen these keyboards with various brandings. Sometime ago somebody posted about a thread about some McDonnell Douglas branded ones with Blue ALPS (here it is), and I own an Alcatel branded one with complicated ALPS. I still wonder about the Keycaps. My guess would be pad printed ABS.

I’m no expert about keycaps by any means, but I’m pretty sure the McDonnell-Douglas keyboards have dye-sub keycaps. They’re definitely not pad-printed, and seem too smooth to be lasered.

RC-1140 · 20 Jul 2012, 14:57

At least on my Alcatel one the legends are too sharp to be dye subbed, and too black to be lasered. They definitely aren't doubleshots, and I think the surface is coated.

I still think they are pad printed.

itlnstln · 20 Jul 2012, 15:31

Here is a picture of an Acer switch. I can't view it at work, so I'm not entirely sure what it looks like.

For your reference: http://imgur.com/a/VWFz6#0

steve_gorden88 · 20 Jul 2012, 18:26

Thanks for the pictures. Yes they are Acer switches, i can read the Acer logo.

Charlie_Brown_MX · 22 Jul 2012, 21:35

RC-1140 wrote:At least on my Alcatel one the legends are too sharp to be dye subbed, and too black to be lasered. They definitely aren't doubleshots, and I think the surface is coated.

I still think they are pad printed.

I just checked the McDonnell–Douglas I have side-by-side with my Model M, and I’m certain its legends are dye-sub. The colour is different, but the printing looks exactly the same. The M–D keys are definitely not coated. Needless to say, this may not be the case with the Canon.

steve_gorden88 · 22 Jul 2012, 22:02

how can i check if its pad printed or dye-sub?

Charlie_Brown_MX · 22 Jul 2012, 22:15

steve_gorden88 wrote:how can i check if its pad printed or dye-sub?

In my limited experience, pad-printed legends tend to be shiny, often with a clear border around the character itself, and are ever-so-slightly raised above the surface. You have to run your finger over it to feel it, but it’s definitely there on the ones I’ve seen.

Others may know of better ways of determining if they’re pad-printed or dye-sub.

steve_gorden88 · 22 Jul 2012, 22:32

ok thanks.

i feel nothing and there are not shiny, only the grey caps shines and the numbers of the num block, but also there i can´t feel the legends

Charlie_Brown_MX · 22 Jul 2012, 22:45

That shininess could be due to wear on the caps. Several of the keys on my M–D have a shine but no wearing to the legends.

Here are some poor phone-camera photos of the keys:

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Judging by how similar the legends are, I’d say there’s a good chance that they’re basically the same keycaps.