What is your favorite switch and why?
- Brian8bit
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I don't mind Alps. What lets them down for me on my current board is the Matias Tactile Pro 3 chassis. The MTP3 chassis makes the sound rattle. When you get up a good typing speed, I'd liken it to typing on a buckling spring IBM in terms of just how obnoxiously loud it can get. I haven't used a buckling spring board for a while now, but I would go as far as to say that I think the MTP3 can in some cases be louder, depending on the desk you've got it on. The rubber pads on the bottom are absolutely useless and provide no traction (or dampening) at all, so the board slides all over the place and the plastic legs to angle the keyboard have no rubber socks or anything to dampen them from the desk.
Myself, I've tried IBM Model M buckling spring, White clicky Alps, MX blues, MX browns and MX blacks. Out of all of them I'd say MX blues are my favourite.
Myself, I've tried IBM Model M buckling spring, White clicky Alps, MX blues, MX browns and MX blacks. Out of all of them I'd say MX blues are my favourite.
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- Location: Ugly American
- Main keyboard: As Long As It is Helvetica
- Main mouse: Mickey
- Favorite switch: Wanna Switch? Well, I Certainly Did!
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I used to find them confusing. Then I worked on the Geekhack ALPS Wiki and took massive amounts of drugs.
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- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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ALPS:
- The initial resistance is too low. I think this could be because the springs are too short and not tensed enough when unpressed.
-There is too much friction after the tactile bump/click.
+They can be opened from above when mounted in a metal frame.
- The initial resistance is too low. I think this could be because the springs are too short and not tensed enough when unpressed.
-There is too much friction after the tactile bump/click.
+They can be opened from above when mounted in a metal frame.
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- Main keyboard: Topre 105UFB
- Main mouse: Logitech G5
- Favorite switch: Topre & BS
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The first mechanical switch i ever tried are mx blues and i think that they feel great when compared to rubber-domes or scissor-switches. But i have also tried topres and have started liking them too, i will probably have to buy atleast one board to evaluate them more closely.
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- Main keyboard: Simple microsoft keyboard
- Main mouse: Simple logitech mouse
- Favorite switch: brown
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I am personnally more attracted by the MX brown switches since I'm a fan of RTS ... But I haven't tried one yet !
I've also tried the blues, seems very good obviously, but I wait to test the brown to definitely make my choice
I've also tried the blues, seems very good obviously, but I wait to test the brown to definitely make my choice
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- Main keyboard: Topre Realforce 86U [SE0500]
- Main mouse: Razer DeathAdder 3.5G
- Favorite switch: Topre Capacitive, Cherry MX Blue, Cherry MX Red
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Topre in Realforce is my favorite. It feels simply incredible and typing is effortless. Awesome sounding too, I love the muddily clacky sound. It must the combination of lightness and smoothness, it feels so refined compared to "real" mechanical switches. I love my rubber dome.
Here's a ranking of switches I've used, 100% being the perfect switch in every regard, i.e. never gonna happen:
95.0% 30g/45g Topre Capacitive in Realforce
87.5% Cherry MX Blue, Topre Capacitive in HHKB
75.0% Cherry MX Brown
Lately I got to try buckling springs but since the keyboard isn't in stellar shape and I haven't used the switches extensively, I'm not going to rate them. I think they're definitely in the 85-90% range, though.
Here's a ranking of switches I've used, 100% being the perfect switch in every regard, i.e. never gonna happen:
95.0% 30g/45g Topre Capacitive in Realforce
87.5% Cherry MX Blue, Topre Capacitive in HHKB
75.0% Cherry MX Brown
Lately I got to try buckling springs but since the keyboard isn't in stellar shape and I haven't used the switches extensively, I'm not going to rate them. I think they're definitely in the 85-90% range, though.
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- Location: Italy
- Main keyboard: REALFORCE R2
- Main mouse: Vaxee Outset / CST L-TracX
- Favorite switch: MX Brown / Topre
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I have the same feeling about the linear switch, but I'd did not try red yet, just black.sam113101 wrote:I have tried blue cherries and buckling spring, and I prefer buckling spring.
The reason why I wouldn't buy black cherries is because it's linear, and I want something tactile.
How can someone prefer a linear switch to a tactile switch ? Isn't it boring to type on ?
I like a lot the brown, I want to try the blue but not sure if I will like it more.
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- Main keyboard: Full Size Filco w/browns
- Main mouse: Logitech M570 Trackball
- Favorite switch: Cherry Brown
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I like Cherry browns alot because they are light and fast and I think, tactile enough. Not crazy about blues or blacks because I don't like the pressure required.
A close second would be some of the clickier/louder ALPS switches out there.
A close second would be some of the clickier/louder ALPS switches out there.
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- Main keyboard: Simple microsoft keyboard
- Main mouse: Simple logitech mouse
- Favorite switch: brown
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Never tried a black switch, but do the pressure required make that a difference ? I thought that was more a question of comfort than a real difference .. But I assume I should be wrong !ashort wrote:I like Cherry browns alot because they are light and fast and I think, tactile enough. Not crazy about blues or blacks because I don't like the pressure required.
A close second would be some of the clickier/louder ALPS switches out there.
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- Main keyboard: Full Size Filco w/browns
- Main mouse: Logitech M570 Trackball
- Favorite switch: Cherry Brown
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I can't say that I ever really noted the difference as "pressure required" until I saw the graphs for cherry switches and then it clicked. "Oh yeah, that's why blues feel so tight to me, and why browns feel so light and fast!" Blacks were somewhere in the middle and I don't think pressure is bad on them, but browns are lighter and I like that. I'm not sure I totally "get it" for myself because I think I tend to smash keys...people at work have told me that I type LOUD, and that's on my Thinkpad keyboard! For some reason, I really like the browns.tehpassenger wrote:Never tried a black switch, but do the pressure required make that a difference ? I thought that was more a question of comfort than a real difference .. But I assume I should be wrong !
If there were a clicky model (like blues) that were light like browns...I might like that one too!
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- Main keyboard: Simple microsoft keyboard
- Main mouse: Simple logitech mouse
- Favorite switch: brown
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Maybe the reds, which seem to be an alternative between blue and brown ?ashort wrote:I can't say that I ever really noted the difference as "pressure required" until I saw the graphs for cherry switches and then it clicked. "Oh yeah, that's why blues feel so tight to me, and why browns feel so light and fast!" Blacks were somewhere in the middle and I don't think pressure is bad on them, but browns are lighter and I like that. I'm not sure I totally "get it" for myself because I think I tend to smash keys...people at work have told me that I type LOUD, and that's on my Thinkpad keyboard! For some reason, I really like the browns.tehpassenger wrote:Never tried a black switch, but do the pressure required make that a difference ? I thought that was more a question of comfort than a real difference .. But I assume I should be wrong !
If there were a clicky model (like blues) that were light like browns...I might like that one too!
- daedalus
- Buckler Of Springs
- Location: Ireland
- Main keyboard: Model M SSK (home) HHKB Pro 2 (work)
- Main mouse: CST Lasertrack, Logitech MX Master
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring, Beam Spring
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Depending on my mood, Blue Alps are either my 3rd or 4th favorite mech switch.sixty wrote:It seems like literally no one likes ALPS.
They're nice and smooth, which makes them better than some poorly implemented tactile switches. Blacks are not my favorite, but I can understand why people would like them, even as a typing switch.I have tried blue cherries and buckling spring, and I prefer buckling spring.
The reason why I wouldn't buy black cherries is because it's linear, and I want something tactile.
How can someone prefer a linear switch to a tactile switch ? Isn't it boring to type on ?
If there was one that was in between Reds and Blacks in terms of stiffness, they'd be quite nice indeed.
- Ekaros
- Location: Finland,
- Main keyboard: FILCO MAJESTOUCH 105 MX Brown SW/FI
- Main mouse: Razer
- Favorite switch: MX Clear
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MX Clear, very different from all other switches I have tried. Like mutant between brown and black. First you got brown to activation and then you are in black zone... Still quite intesting as you can notice the point cleary, maybe even too cleary...
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- Location: Ugly American
- Main keyboard: As Long As It is Helvetica
- Main mouse: Mickey
- Favorite switch: Wanna Switch? Well, I Certainly Did!
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ALPS has NEVER gotten over 10% in the Mechanical Switch Poll. N=390. Need 110 more so I don't have to use my calculator to figure out statistical significance.
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=11952
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=11952
- Crazy9000
- Main keyboard: G-Tune Realforce 108B-MP
- Main mouse: Steelseries Xai
- Favorite switch: Topre
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About 4% for the two options in that pole.ripster wrote:ALPS has NEVER gotten over 10% in the Mechanical Switch Poll. N=390. Need 110 more so I don't have to use my calculator to figure out statistical significance.
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=11952
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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Mechanical switch polls are useless, totally. Wake me when all voters got all major switch types and USA today and the Sun are no longer the most popular newspapers in the US and the UK. For punishment, the posters above who used some silly poll in some kind of argument shall be forced to listen to Justin Bieber's latest album, who scores high in the polls.
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- Location: Ugly American
- Main keyboard: As Long As It is Helvetica
- Main mouse: Mickey
- Favorite switch: Wanna Switch? Well, I Certainly Did!
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You mean Poll. Pole is a person of Polish descent. The previous one it was less than 5%. I mean the Poll not my heritage.Crazy9000 wrote:About 4% for the two options in that pole.ripster wrote:ALPS has NEVER gotten over 10% in the Mechanical Switch Poll. N=390. Need 110 more so I don't have to use my calculator to figure out statistical significance.
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=11952
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?t=6626
I also find the trends interesting from year to year.
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- Main keyboard: F77
- Main mouse: Pulsar X2
- Favorite switch: Buckling spring
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I've tried a the following:
Topre Capacitive (tried both variables and all 55g)
Cherry MX Brown
Cherry MX Blue
Buckling spring (model M)
If I had to chose only one, I would go with the Topre variables (I find them to be the most comfortable), followed closely by the Cherry MX Brown.
Topre Capacitive (tried both variables and all 55g)
Cherry MX Brown
Cherry MX Blue
Buckling spring (model M)
If I had to chose only one, I would go with the Topre variables (I find them to be the most comfortable), followed closely by the Cherry MX Brown.
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
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I've changed my mind again. Here goes:
1. Cherry MX Clear modded with the springs from blues/browns/reds
2. Cherry MX Blues
3. Cherry MX Red/Topre
1. Cherry MX Clear modded with the springs from blues/browns/reds
2. Cherry MX Blues
3. Cherry MX Red/Topre
- 002
- Topre Enthusiast
- Location: Australia
- Main keyboard: Realforce & Libertouch
- Main mouse: Logitech G Pro Wireless
- Favorite switch: Topre
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+1webwit wrote:Wake me when all voters got all major switch types.
If I were to guess, I'd say that the reason ALPS switches score so low is because they're not as readily available *in new boards* as Cherry and to a lesser extent, Topre. It might be argued that it's because they're not as good that they're not available but I still believe there would be many more fans if everyone tried them.
I have a board with Brown ALPS (and mini Green ALPS) and a GHSS and I like them both; in fact I think I prefer the brown ALPS switches over Cherry Browns.
- daedalus
- Buckler Of Springs
- Location: Ireland
- Main keyboard: Model M SSK (home) HHKB Pro 2 (work)
- Main mouse: CST Lasertrack, Logitech MX Master
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring, Beam Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0087
If only Blue Alps were available in a modern keyboard, would leave the Blue Cherries in the dust.
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- Main keyboard: Topre Realforce 86U [SE0500]
- Main mouse: Razer DeathAdder 3.5G
- Favorite switch: Topre Capacitive, Cherry MX Blue, Cherry MX Red
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You traitor!keyboardlover wrote:I've changed my mind again. Here goes:
1. Cherry MX Clear modded with the springs from blues/browns/reds
2. Cherry MX Blues
3. Cherry MX Red/Topre