The WhiteWidow
- YetAnotherDeveloper
- Location: NYC
- Main keyboard: blackwidow
- Main mouse: deathadder
- Favorite switch: so far mx blues
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
Sanding Down the Case
This has been only hit with 600 wet for a few seconds. This is still the coating on the case; which will hold onto the finger prints almost as bad as the stock coating.
Time to remove the coating... the light color is the plastic under the coating.
Coating all gone (with 600 grit). Note that at this point if you were to polish the plastic back smooth you would be left with a smoky clear plastic... this might be cool to play around with; there are also 100+ LED connections on the board if you wanted to play with some back lighting under the clear case/frame.
Pulling Switches
I found that using the desoldering bulb is the easiest way to remove the solder from the switch. I did find that the solder used by the factory was most likely lead-free and therefore a little harder to heat up and remove. What i did was take a quick run at all of them, probably only fully clearing about 30% of them; then i when back over each one that was still soldered and applied some new solder to it (64/40) and then let it site for a quick count to 5. After this it was good enough to use the bulb again to remove the rest. After the 2nd pass with this i had about 90% of the switches clear and free of solder. The rest just required one more pass. If you have some of the other guides they talk about being able to wiggle the switch from the top and you should be able to see all pins move freely. If when you wiggle the switch the pins to not move then do NOT try to remove the switch, this can damage the board, switch or both. I was able to do mine without any damage. Once the solder is all removed then you will just need to "pop" out the switches, I used a screwdriver the same size as the peg in the switch; I would just line it up and with one or two quick knocks it would break free.
Installing MX whites/clears
Before I could install the switches I needed to swap the tops of the blue and clears switches; the clears are board mounted and the blues are plate so it took almost 3 hours to pull apart all the switches blue and clear and then rebuild the clears on the blue bottoms. There is no real trick to this that I know of... I just used a small flat head screwdriver to pop the sides of the switches.
First Coat with problems in the finish
I used the Rustoleum Auto Gloss Paint from Lowes Hardware store. This finish is NOT hard enough of a finish to last on your keyboard, mine is currently in the auto body shop down the street getting a shot of clear on it. On this first coat you can see some trash in the paint. I started off with two thin coats and then i wet sanded the whole thing down for the 3rd and 4th coats. The first three coats where done in the first hour of the project but the final coat i waited for 3 days to fully cure and then wet sanded it with 600grit.
After Final Coat and no Keys
After a wetsand and a new coating of white + Keys
This has been only hit with 600 wet for a few seconds. This is still the coating on the case; which will hold onto the finger prints almost as bad as the stock coating.
Time to remove the coating... the light color is the plastic under the coating.
Coating all gone (with 600 grit). Note that at this point if you were to polish the plastic back smooth you would be left with a smoky clear plastic... this might be cool to play around with; there are also 100+ LED connections on the board if you wanted to play with some back lighting under the clear case/frame.
Pulling Switches
I found that using the desoldering bulb is the easiest way to remove the solder from the switch. I did find that the solder used by the factory was most likely lead-free and therefore a little harder to heat up and remove. What i did was take a quick run at all of them, probably only fully clearing about 30% of them; then i when back over each one that was still soldered and applied some new solder to it (64/40) and then let it site for a quick count to 5. After this it was good enough to use the bulb again to remove the rest. After the 2nd pass with this i had about 90% of the switches clear and free of solder. The rest just required one more pass. If you have some of the other guides they talk about being able to wiggle the switch from the top and you should be able to see all pins move freely. If when you wiggle the switch the pins to not move then do NOT try to remove the switch, this can damage the board, switch or both. I was able to do mine without any damage. Once the solder is all removed then you will just need to "pop" out the switches, I used a screwdriver the same size as the peg in the switch; I would just line it up and with one or two quick knocks it would break free.
Installing MX whites/clears
Before I could install the switches I needed to swap the tops of the blue and clears switches; the clears are board mounted and the blues are plate so it took almost 3 hours to pull apart all the switches blue and clear and then rebuild the clears on the blue bottoms. There is no real trick to this that I know of... I just used a small flat head screwdriver to pop the sides of the switches.
First Coat with problems in the finish
I used the Rustoleum Auto Gloss Paint from Lowes Hardware store. This finish is NOT hard enough of a finish to last on your keyboard, mine is currently in the auto body shop down the street getting a shot of clear on it. On this first coat you can see some trash in the paint. I started off with two thin coats and then i wet sanded the whole thing down for the 3rd and 4th coats. The first three coats where done in the first hour of the project but the final coat i waited for 3 days to fully cure and then wet sanded it with 600grit.
After Final Coat and no Keys
After a wetsand and a new coating of white + Keys
Last edited by YetAnotherDeveloper on 18 Mar 2011, 21:35, edited 1 time in total.
- sixty
- Gasbag Guru
- Main keyboard: DKSaver
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0060
Wow, that came out awesome! The white case looks much better than the real deal. The keyboard looks pretty nice now, despite the silly font!
I'm curious - do the LEDs still shine through or is your paint too thick?
I'm curious - do the LEDs still shine through or is your paint too thick?
-
- Location: Ugly American
- Main keyboard: As Long As It is Helvetica
- Main mouse: Mickey
- Favorite switch: Wanna Switch? Well, I Certainly Did!
- DT Pro Member: -
Looks like FR04 throughhole pcb. Funny, I don't remember a lot of people talking about the BlackWidow being more solid while typing like the Filco marketing guys contend their Generation 2 keyboards will be.
Oh well, I'll wait until the OTD and KBDmania guys start gushing about it.
Oh well, I'll wait until the OTD and KBDmania guys start gushing about it.
- sixty
- Gasbag Guru
- Main keyboard: DKSaver
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Black
- DT Pro Member: 0060
Feels pretty much the same to me as the Filco generation 1... only difference I really noticed with this type of PCB is that its much harder to desolder and seems to even require a higher wattage iron.ripster wrote:Looks like FR04 throughhole pcb. Funny, I don't remember a lot of people talking about the BlackWidow being more solid while typing like the Filco marketing guys contend their Generation 2 keyboards will be.
Oh well, I'll wait until the OTD and KBDmania guys start gushing about it.
Also YetAnotherDeveloper, you should have painted the plate white too, just for the heck of it!
- YetAnotherDeveloper
- Location: NYC
- Main keyboard: blackwidow
- Main mouse: deathadder
- Favorite switch: so far mx blues
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
sixty wrote:Wow, that came out awesome! The white case looks much better than the real deal. The keyboard looks pretty nice now, despite the silly font!
I'm curious - do the LEDs still shine through or is your paint too thick?
i was fighting on what to do with this one... i just left it and paint over it all. I guess i could add holes for the leds but i dont really want to.
DAMN.... i didnt even think of that; now i want to take it all a part and do that! i think that would prob add at least 2 or three more hours to the project.sixty wrote: Also YetAnotherDeveloper, you should have painted the plate white too, just for the heck of it!
- CephalicCarnage
- Main mouse: Razer Copperhead - First Edition (2005)
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Brown
- DT Pro Member: -
Great job! That finish looks superb. I really like the look of that white you've got there.
- YetAnotherDeveloper
- Location: NYC
- Main keyboard: blackwidow
- Main mouse: deathadder
- Favorite switch: so far mx blues
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
I'm thinking about making a BrownWidow now.... i kinda feel the need to add on to the set.
- Crazy9000
- Main keyboard: G-Tune Realforce 108B-MP
- Main mouse: Steelseries Xai
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
If you do another one change the color of the LED's .YetAnotherDeveloper wrote:I'm thinking about making a BrownWidow now.... i kinda feel the need to add on to the set.
What about a red widow?
- YetAnotherDeveloper
- Location: NYC
- Main keyboard: blackwidow
- Main mouse: deathadder
- Favorite switch: so far mx blues
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
Crazy9000 wrote:If you do another one change the color of the LED's .YetAnotherDeveloper wrote:I'm thinking about making a BrownWidow now.... i kinda feel the need to add on to the set.
What about a red widow?
Good idea... i'm going to change out the white one to a white led.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0000
- Contact:
White Widow is a famous Dutch export product.
- DanGWanG
- Location: Chicago | USA
- Main keyboard: KMAC Ti 62g Clears
- Main mouse: Razer DeathAdder Black
- Favorite switch: Ergo-Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
Looking great.
This is originally what I thought of when I read the title.webwit wrote:White Widow is a famous Dutch export product.
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
I tried white widow back in college.GOOD STUFF.
-
- Location: Arizona
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80
- Main mouse: G500
- Favorite switch: Brown
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
It needs some doubleshots =P
- keyboardlover
- Location: USA, Greatest Country in the World.
- Main keyboard: Cherry G80-3494 Modded (home)/Realforce 87U (work)
- Main mouse: Handshoe Ergonomic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Cherry Ergo Lite Clears
- DT Pro Member: -
I used a double shot gravity bong.