High Performance Gaming Mice Don't Perform

webwit · 28 Mar 2011, 17:37

..says the producer of what is claimed to be the exception.

http://www.warmouse.com/pr032811.html

Through slashdot.

Julle · 28 Mar 2011, 18:03

The Warmouse Meta looks absolutely retarded. I'd like to try it, though, just to prove my prejudice wrong.

NOMiS · 28 Mar 2011, 19:19

Not sure if I understand fully what they are testing, but it seems to be how many clicks per second you can do. I searched their mouse and it has like 40 buttons on it. This might be something important with a lot of keys, but for a standard 5-7 button mouse, I don't think you'll really need that.

Though on a more relevant note, here is a graph of mouse button latencies:

ripster · 29 Mar 2011, 01:53

90% of those are using the same switch. A Omron.

I think it's testing how tired the lab rat was getting.

NOMiS · 29 Mar 2011, 04:08

Actually this is testing how fast there is a response from clicking a button to showing up on screen. In this case, the switch used is irrelevant, since they are all mechanical, and have very small travel. The human aspect was taken out.
I'd link you to the site that did the testing, but the page is sadly down. Maybe someone can find a mirror or cached page, here's the old link: http://sousuch.hp.infoseek.co.jp/DIY/mo ... index.html

ben · 29 Mar 2011, 19:39

NOMiS wrote: Though on a more relevant note, here is a graph of mouse button latencies:

Can anyone identify these sub-10ms mice?

IkariOpt = SteelSeries Ikari Optical
F2020 = ???
IkariLaser = SteelSeries Ikari Laser
ERUP2RRD = Game Commander M-ERUP2R
G3LS = Logicool G3 Laser (Logitech???)
Be-Mouse = ???
AVATAR = NZXT Avatar???
SWAT = Cyber Snipa S.W.A.T.
G5T = ???
G9 = Logitech G9
F1010 = ???
Lachesis = Razer Lachesis
XL-740K = A4tech Oscar XL-740K
Salmosa = Razer Salmosa

IanM · 29 Mar 2011, 19:57

That table is a few years old now, and as mentioned earlier, all the original hosts and translations are no longer available. It was a good resource while it lasted. Google 'mousescore' to try and find some of these old articles. You'll find these and and the dead links:

http://razerblueprints.net/forum/index.php?topic=8419.0
http://wikis.jp/interfacedevice/index.php?FrontPage
http://wikis.jp/interfacedevice/index.p ... umSpeed_en

Also, fire up your favourite translator to find a few of the mice for the Japan & Asia markets listed amongst the global brands we're more familiar with: http://wikiwiki.jp/fpag/

ben wrote: F2020 = ???
F1010 = ???

these are the Creative Fatal1y brand mice.

ben wrote:G5T = ???

Logitech G5 probably, not sure which generation.

ben wrote: Be-Mouse = ???

Not sure about this one.

BSCE = Boomslang Collector's Edition

ripster · 29 Mar 2011, 20:55

Hah, those results are clearly rigged. I've used SetPoint and no way can the latencies be low on that pig of a software stack.

NOMiS · 29 Mar 2011, 22:08

This is the be-mouse, don't ask me why they tested it:

ripster wrote:Hah, those results are clearly rigged. I've used SetPoint and no way can the latencies be low on that pig of a software stack.

No one in the "e-sports" communities install mouse drivers anyway. SetPoint is actually know to lower the performance of the MX518 iirc. It should be somewhere on that Japanese wiki that IanM posted. Too bad you need it to change the led color on your mouse.

IanM · 29 Mar 2011, 22:09

ripster wrote:Hah, those results are clearly rigged. I've used SetPoint and no way can the latencies be low on that pig of a software stack.

At least Setpoint is only 25MB after you choose the right version, and Razer is similar at around 33MB. I have the Alienware version of the G9x and Dell make you download a preposterously portly 375MB ! Stupid Dell.

NOMiS wrote:This is the be-mouse, don't ask me why they tested it:

Are you certain this is the mouse in the original article? I saw that Konami thing earlier, but I don't remember it at all. Probably worth testing just for a chuckle

NOMiS · 29 Mar 2011, 22:22

Japan has weirder things.

keyboardlover · 29 Mar 2011, 22:44

Like coed naked curling?

Brummell · 02 Apr 2011, 20:27

keyboardlover wrote:Like coed naked curling?

That's the cure for the decline in Olympics ratings for sure.

ripster · 02 Apr 2011, 21:19

The last Olympics was the worst. Gave my Canadian friends a big head.

When they start talking Gold Medals I bring up William Shatner.

Minskleip · 09 Apr 2011, 21:44

Isn't this the Openoffice mouse, and wasn't it a joke?

IanM · 09 Apr 2011, 22:06

Minskleip wrote:Isn't this the Openoffice mouse, and wasn't it a joke?

Yep: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Openof ... 78&bih=852

You can't polish a turd, but you can put it in a different colour box...

NOMiS · 09 Apr 2011, 22:09

Minskleip · 09 Apr 2011, 22:17

It is kind of cool, but I can't even maximise my more conventional mouse so I guess it's not for me. Someone should make a neural interface! Good idea!

webwit · 09 Apr 2011, 22:22

http://news.cnet.com/8301-27083_3-20048446-247.html

IanM · 09 Apr 2011, 22:26

NOMiS wrote:

why did they write Polish instead of polish? Do Poles have a unique diet that helps?

Minskleip wrote:Someone should make a neural interface! Good idea!

OCZ already did: http://www.ocztechnology.com/nia-game-controller.html

Minskleip · 09 Apr 2011, 22:27

Good to know I'll be able to successfully control a cursor if I get stabbed. I'll go fight in the streets tonight.

Minskleip · 09 Apr 2011, 22:30

IanM wrote:
Minskleip wrote:Someone should make a neural interface! Good idea!
OCZ already did: http://www.ocztechnology.com/nia-game-controller.html

Nia is Ain backwards! I don't want things in my mind

Telstar · 26 Oct 2011, 03:01

I have owned two ikari laser over the past 3,5 years and when it didnt doubleclick by its initiative it was great, maybe even clicking TOO fast.