I don't know, I don't really like the plain sandblasted aluminium look. I think the brushed surface looks cooler (like the pic bellow), but hopefully I may be able to brush the case myself. Right?hoggy wrote:Saw this on kbdmania...http://www.kbdmania.net/xe/index.php?mi ... rl=5705699Spoiler:
I plan to use keycaps from a Kinesis Advantage, but WASD is almost certain to produce a set, since he is even buying an Ergodox.dirge wrote: What's everyone doing about keycaps? Still haven't sourced any for mine.
+1 for labeled DCS PBT caps.heuristicist wrote:Are there any (concrete) plans for a labelled keycap GB? I'll go in on the blank ones barring other options (and at the current price on MD it isn't too bad), but I'd prefer labels, at least for the standard keys :\
Lol, it's pretty harsh at the moment. I churned through the learncolemak.com lessons over Friday and Saturday, switched my home pooters on Sunday & started using it at work today. I'm keeping qwerty on standby for emergencies, but I'm already appreciating how much more efficient the colemak finger motions are when I need to go back to qwerty, even if I'm damn slow and error prone at em so far.Sunspots wrote:Welcome to Colemak, my dear friend! You are in for a treat (well, maybe in a couple months from now).eviltobz wrote:...And it also got me learning colemak, so this is my slowest forum post ever!
I can recommend amphetype, add a good book to the sources and read it while typing it. And you get stats on your progression. That's how I have learned colemak in the last year. Colemak/kinesis/ergodox here tooeviltobz wrote:Lol, it's pretty harsh at the moment. I churned through the learncolemak.com lessons over Friday and Saturday, switched my home pooters on Sunday & started using it at work today. I'm keeping qwerty on standby for emergencies, but I'm already appreciating how much more efficient the colemak finger motions are when I need to go back to qwerty, even if I'm damn slow and error prone at em so far.Sunspots wrote:Welcome to Colemak, my dear friend! You are in for a treat (well, maybe in a couple months from now).eviltobz wrote:...And it also got me learning colemak, so this is my slowest forum post ever!
Wow, that is a truly awesome idea. Thanksbjarven wrote: I can recommend amphetype, add a good book to the sources and read it while typing it. And you get stats on your progression. That's how I have learned colemak in the last year. Colemak/kinesis/ergodox here too
Dox, just curious since you've had your prototype going for a while, how is the Shapeways printed case doing?dox wrote:and the phantom....
I'm getting sick of all the whining about massdrop and such by people that never offered to help the project/distribution or organize the group buy themselves.
I hadn't seen that beforeL!athus wrote:Something like the cool leaf
thanks. Not exactly though... tactile feedback is really important... I keep hoping that a gently tactile version of the TouchStream would come out some day, or something like that, but alas, lol, not yet. Till then, I'm trying to decide if putting Reds with blue O-Rings in my ergodoxen would be a good approximation...Since fingerworks is a subsidary of apple. Probably the future of their keyboards would be geared towards touch tactile. Your hopes might be realised by them, its apple so it may cost you a limpic07 wrote:I hadn't seen that beforeL!athus wrote:Something like the cool leaf
, as iirc i have read abt some patents either submitted/granted on a tech site. But as far as my knowledge goes peizoelectric touch panels are still research in motion that provide tactility to touch base panels. E.g. Blackberry storm series.
My red switches are waiting in the drawer to be happily married to ergodox board. Could a 70a roughly 1.5~1.7mm thick o-ring in theory simulate the effect you are after? It reduces the travel more without changing the switch feel by much.The shapeways cases are holding fine! I use them everyday and couldn't be happier.regack wrote:Dox, just curious since you've had your prototype going for a while, how is the Shapeways printed case doing?
I hope so! Be cool to see what they come up with, if they ever do, even if I do have to wait a while before getting one...L!athus wrote:Since fingerworks is a subsidary of apple. Probably the future of their keyboards would be geared towards touch tactile.
Lol. I suppose I misspoke, since typing on something soft would provide exactly the kind of "tactile feedback" (i.e. just a simple way to know that your finger is in fact on a key, and that it has indeed pressed down) I'm looking for. This is my first experience with Cherry switches in general though, and right now I'm typing on Blues since that's all that was available on short notice when I needed them, so I'm still experimenting with combinations (on my WASD sampler kit, waiting for my massdrop kits), and thinking about stuff... I suppose what I'd want in an ideal world would be red-level resistance till 2mm activation, with a smooth exponential increase in resistance till an asymptote near 7mm or so. Is there place to get smallish quantities of thicker/softer O-Rings than WASD carries? If so, what might I look for?L!athus wrote:Agreed tactile feedbacks is of an importance but i really fell in love with the feeling of typing on boobs.
Me too... lol.gdaian wrote:Hnnnnggg;want!dox wrote:Spoiler:
O ya, I remember... But I still hope they'll do something with the touch-tactile typing research some day. There's been romours about such things for a while now.webwit wrote:Fingerworks isn't a subsidiary of apple. They were bought for the patents and are long dead. This is about the gesture technology currently used on iphones and ipads.
Surely progressive springs is what we want. Not rubber.ic07 wrote:red-level resistance till 2mm activation, with a smooth exponential increase in resistance till an asymptote near 7mm or so. Is there place to get smallish quantities of thicker/softer O-Rings than WASD carries? If so, what might I look for?
Edit 2 - I saw this link posted by Dox to his Shapeways account where you can see current pricing : http://www.shapeways.com/shops/Doxsordna wrote:I forget who, but there's a guy who built an ergodox without a PCB, by just building the matrix with wires (sort of like a maltron):
http://blog.fsck.com/2012/12/building-a ... art-1.html
http://blog.fsck.com/2012/12/building-a ... art-2.html
Thank you for splitting the thread!The Demongolator wrote:Please continue discussion regarding the massdrop groupbuy here.
I swap the big keys, so backspace & delete in that example and space & enter on the other hand. This makes my home position more central and better poised to use the other keys. home and end become ctrl and shift respectively, and again on the other hand with page up/down. I find it very easy to munge down both ctrl & shift together like this with the side of my thumb which is a common combo. alt and ctrl (home in the piccy) isn't so easy, but it just requires lifting my palms off the keyboard body a little so I can cleanly press down with my thumb tip where they meet. One handing ctrl, alt, delete is a mess, but as sordna says, the other hand can help you nicely with that, although that's generally a leaving or arriving at my pooter kind of requirement to lock or unlock it, so I often end up doing that one from standing, or not quite in a touch typing position at least.I think it's just how the keypresses are handled in the UI. For example, I want to assign a colon (not a semi) to a key on layer 1. I click on the key, then press shift+semi, and I'm left with [LShift]. I'm guessing they just need to incorporate a better keypress library like Keypress.bisl wrote:Why can't you? Can't reach the keys or the keys don't do what you programmed them to do?AloisiusFauxly wrote:in Chrome I can't use shift+key combos
