F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

wobbled · 17 Jun 2018, 14:07

Ellipse please can you check your emails? I have some questions about my orders

Cheers

Takashi · 17 Jun 2018, 18:13

For us that live on the other side of the globe... did anyone take any pictures from the meeting-event and could upload them here?

codemonkeymike · 17 Jun 2018, 18:47

https://flashquark.com/nyc-mechanical-k ... etup-2018/
https://imgur.com/a/alA6pDy#iMGD44t

Ill post some photos as well, it seemed the one r/mk-er's album was all artisans and the flashquark album was all people.

Takashi · 17 Jun 2018, 19:26

codemonkeymike wrote: ↑https://flashquark.com/nyc-mechanical-k ... etup-2018/
https://imgur.com/a/alA6pDy#iMGD44t

Ill post some photos as well, it seemed the one r/mk-er's album was all artisans and the flashquark album was all people.

Thanks! Not so many pictures of the model-F though... hope there is more!

constexpr · 18 Jun 2018, 06:10

Finalized the main layout I'll be going with on my F77 and ordered the remaining caps. Pretty happy with how it turned out

Here's hoping it'll look twice as good in person!

darkcruix · 18 Jun 2018, 09:01

constexpr wrote: ↑Finalized the main layout I'll be going with on my F77 and ordered the remaining caps. Pretty happy with how it turned out
Here's hoping it'll look twice as good in person!

I wasn't aware that you can order it with a split left shift also. AFAIK, only the right shift can be split like the HHKB

strah · 18 Jun 2018, 09:21

darkcruix wrote: ↑ I wasn't aware that you can order it with a split left shift also. AFAIK, only the right shift can be split like the HHKB

Split left shift is standard with the ISO layout so I think it should be no problem to also include that with an ANSI layout as constexpr did

evoman · 18 Jun 2018, 11:27

strah wrote: ↑
darkcruix wrote: ↑ I wasn't aware that you can order it with a split left shift also. AFAIK, only the right shift can be split like the HHKB
Split left shift is standard with the ISO layout so I think it should be no problem to also include that with an ANSI layout as constexpr did

It is indeed, and that is nice since the extra key helps to replace the one lost to the giant return key. I'm going with the hhkb split right shift as well to get even more keys onto my ISO format.

I am hoping that Ellipse can confirm the cost to adding the Mopar blue keys since I am basically going withe the same layout as constexpr and love the look of those blue keys in that layout.

depletedvespene · 18 Jun 2018, 11:31

I'm toying with going not ISO+HHKB, but full-on TIE, just as the original F62/77 keyboards were (plus the two extra 1U keys instead of the 2U backspace). It's supposed to be a compact keyboard, after all.

evoman · 18 Jun 2018, 11:41

depletedvespene wrote: ↑I'm toying with going not ISO+HHKB, but full-on TIE, just as the original F62/77 keyboards were (plus the two extra 1U keys instead of the 2U backspace). It's supposed to be a compact keyboard, after all.

That sounds like a nice option. I am going with UK ISO mostly to avoid confusion from constantly switching between layouts (since my work laptop has a UK ISO and I have switched my Model M and Novatouch to ISO layout models to avoid the constant confusion!).

For people that saw the F77 at the meetup, was there a compact or the zinc (classic looking) case? I ordered the classic/zinc, but after using a Novatouch for the last couple of months at work I am worried that I won't like the slightly larger footprint of that case. (and this is after years of a full sized Model M - I had no idea how much nicer it would be to work on a case without the keypad - unsurprisingly, that case was clearly not designed to be used alongside a mouse!).

wobbled · 18 Jun 2018, 12:01

I'm getting super fucking excited for this now, Ellipse do you have an idea as to when us single digit serial guys will receive delivery?

digital_matthew · 18 Jun 2018, 16:00

Takashi wrote: ↑
codemonkeymike wrote: ↑https://flashquark.com/nyc-mechanical-k ... etup-2018/
https://imgur.com/a/alA6pDy#iMGD44t

Ill post some photos as well, it seemed the one r/mk-er's album was all artisans and the flashquark album was all people.
Thanks! Not so many pictures of the model-F though... hope there is more!

Here's a picture of Ellipse's table.

Spoiler:

Scarpia · 18 Jun 2018, 19:52

constexpr wrote: ↑Finalized the main layout I'll be going with on my F77 and ordered the remaining caps. Pretty happy with how it turned out
Here's hoping it'll look twice as good in person!

I lost track of the right-hand-legends discussion, was this layout actually possible? I'm talking about the 789456 with Ins-Home-PgUp-Del-End-PgDn sublegends -- those aren't offered, are they?

constexpr · 18 Jun 2018, 20:10

Scarpia wrote: ↑I lost track of the right-hand-legends discussion, was this layout actually possible?

It's possible — Ellipse confirmed it here:

Ellipse wrote: ↑The CM style is available but only as an add on, not installed on the keyboards to minimize adding further variations for the factory to do.

Ellipse · 18 Jun 2018, 23:49

wobbled these are not expected to start going out until later this year. Sorry I don't have a firmer timeline.

Yes each of the extra keys on the Imgur page are available, please ask me if interested in adding any to your order.

Scarpia · 19 Jun 2018, 20:52

This imgur page? https://m.imgur.com/a/WR7h4

Because that does not include the keys from constexpr’s mockup - the numpad ones with command cluster sublegends on the 789 and 456 keys

701c · 19 Jun 2018, 20:54

How much longer do I have to order one? The date the website says to order one by keeps moving up at the end of the month.

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Techno Trousers · 19 Jun 2018, 21:11

You have until at least a few months after the first round ships to customers.

701c · 19 Jun 2018, 21:15

Techno Trousers wrote:You have until at least a few months after the first round ships to customers.

Thanks! We are still in the first round, right?

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Techno Trousers · 19 Jun 2018, 21:18

Yep, first round. Hopefully shipping before end of 2018.

lakofsth · 20 Jun 2018, 18:16

Ellipse wrote: ↑ The 60% dark gray samples also arrived and are shown below. I think it's the best we can do to have a legible legend but please let me know what you think.

I'm glad that they're the right colour for some, but I'd imagined something more like the HHKB black with black legends. Back to black blanks then?

depletedvespene · 20 Jun 2018, 19:41

lakofsth wrote: ↑
Ellipse wrote: ↑ The 60% dark gray samples also arrived and are shown below. I think it's the best we can do to have a legible legend but please let me know what you think.
I'm glad that they're the right colour for some, but I'd imagined something more like the HHKB black with black legends. Back to black blanks then?

(those can be easily sourced from Unicomp)

codemonkeymike · 20 Jun 2018, 19:44

depletedvespene wrote: ↑
lakofsth wrote: ↑
Ellipse wrote: ↑ The 60% dark gray samples also arrived and are shown below. I think it's the best we can do to have a legible legend but please let me know what you think.
I'm glad that they're the right colour for some, but I'd imagined something more like the HHKB black with black legends. Back to black blanks then?
(those can be easily sourced from Unicomp)

The unicomp black caps are odd, I think the black ones are a different plastic then the others

depletedvespene · 20 Jun 2018, 19:46

codemonkeymike wrote: ↑
depletedvespene wrote: ↑
lakofsth wrote: ↑I'm glad that they're the right colour for some, but I'd imagined something more like the HHKB black with black legends. Back to black blanks then?
(those can be easily sourced from Unicomp)
The unicomp black caps are odd, I think the black ones are a different plastic then the others

Quite probably. They're also 1-piece, instead of 2-piece stem and cap, like all the others.

wcass · 20 Jun 2018, 22:05

Ellipse wrote: ↑The 60% dark gray samples also arrived and are shown below. I think it's the best we can do to have a legible legend but please let me know what you think.

It might be the picture, but the 60% reminds me of the Unicomp Gray and doesn't impress me as much as the 80% did.
Any chance we can get a comparison picture between all 3 ... the 80%, 60%, and Unicomp's Gray?

evoman · 21 Jun 2018, 11:25

digital_matthew wrote: ↑
Takashi wrote: ↑
codemonkeymike wrote: ↑https://flashquark.com/nyc-mechanical-k ... etup-2018/
https://imgur.com/a/alA6pDy#iMGD44t

Ill post some photos as well, it seemed the one r/mk-er's album was all artisans and the flashquark album was all people.
Thanks! Not so many pictures of the model-F though... hope there is more!
Here's a picture of Ellipse's table.
Spoiler:

So is this the classic zinc F77 and the compact versions lined up in the photo? If so, the compact certainly looks a lot smaller. I am starting to worry that my love for the lovely retro solid case might end up costing me in terms of usability.

codemonkeymike · 21 Jun 2018, 13:31

evoman wrote: ↑ So is this the classic zinc F77 and the compact versions lined up in the photo? If so, the compact certainly looks a lot smaller. I am starting to worry that my love for the lovely retro solid case might end up costing me in terms of usability.

I will say that the small form factor one is heavy as hell, although I think the one on the table is a milled prototype not a cast production one.

depletedvespene · 21 Jun 2018, 13:36

codemonkeymike wrote: ↑… the small form factor one is heavy as hell …

Good.

digital_matthew · 21 Jun 2018, 16:08

Yes the keyboards are impressively heavy. I wouldn't worry about it skidding across your desk as you type.

lakofsth · 21 Jun 2018, 21:23

depletedvespene wrote: ↑
lakofsth wrote: ↑
Ellipse wrote: ↑ The 60% dark gray samples also arrived and are shown below. I think it's the best we can do to have a legible legend but please let me know what you think.
I'm glad that they're the right colour for some, but I'd imagined something more like the HHKB black with black legends. Back to black blanks then?
(those can be easily sourced from Unicomp)

Blank or black with black legends? PBT?