Second-gen Model M measurements needed urgently!

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Chyros

04 Sep 2017, 10:12

Hiya guys, I just noted that NONE of the Models M I have left are second-gen. Could someone please do some measurements of one for me? I need them for a video.

Second gen is grey-badge models that don't have the rainbow plate, but the thick matte grey plate instead, such as most 1391401. The UK plant switched to grey plates later, so all the 1391406s I have left are rainbow plate.

Please use digital scales and calipers to measure them!

Could I have the following measurements please:

-total keyboard weight (minus cable)
-case weight (top plus bottom, no controllers, just the two PVC shell parts plus badge)
-plate thickness (should be between 1.0 and 1.2 mm, might take some wiggling to get a good measurement)

Thanks guys! :D

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chip chop

04 Sep 2017, 14:33

Dunno if this is any use? http://imgur.com/a/PDwlz

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Chyros

04 Sep 2017, 17:32

Eh, it's a start, but I need more info on it before I can really do a second-gen entry.

unoquepasa

04 Sep 2017, 17:48

Hi, Chyros.

These are the weight measurements you requested, from my 1991 bolt-modded 1391405 model M from Greenock.

Keyboard weight without cable: 2017 grams.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzn3Cf ... sp=sharing

Upper and bottom cases weight: 795 grams.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzn3Cf ... sp=sharing

I don't own a digital caliper. I can take measurements with an analog one, if you wish.

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Chyros

04 Sep 2017, 21:56

Sure, if it can reliably give measurements, an analog one would work too :) . I guess the keyboard weight includes the bolts on your one?

unoquepasa

04 Sep 2017, 23:17

Yes, the weight measurement includes bolts (x58), nuts (x50) and washers (x50).

The steel plate thickness is 1.0 mm. The same as my 3rd generation 1391405 from late 1992.

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clickykeyboards

05 Sep 2017, 02:40

Data points from a (1991) 1391401 (04-08-91)
http://clickykeyboards.com/product/1991 ... -04-08-91/
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-total keyboard weight (minus cable)
2.06kg
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-case weight (top plus bottom, no controllers, just the two PVC shell parts plus badge)
0.82kg
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model M internals with key caps, buckling springs, conductive layers, controller, metal plate
1.24kg
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-plate thickness (should be between 1.0 and 1.2 mm)
1.0mm
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Chyros

06 Sep 2017, 08:42

Thanks guys, this greatly helps the video :) .

unoquepasa

06 Sep 2017, 14:55

You are welcome. Glad to help in the making of one of your videos.

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