The *Ping* Award

[webwit]

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Nomination rules:
Use this category to name the worst keyboard or input device related experience after November 26, 2016. Anything goes. You must provide a short explanation for each suggestion. This category is named after the infamous Summer of Ping. You cannot nominate yourself.

The Deskthority Ballet performing "The *Ping*"


Current suggestions:

• MrDuul and all associated accounts for driving up beamspring prices for a few months
• massdrop for the I:C incident, for continuing to fail on numerous occasions, for shipping switches instead of entire board kits, for shipping items in packaging so terrible that items fall out or are damaged, and for not being able to tell left from right and shipping two left-handed ergodox boards
• I:C for the massdrop incident
• Invyr Panda's, the switches were a major disappointment. Touted as a wobble free super smooth factory lubed switch, it ended out being very scratchy (more so then Cherry MX Blacks) and that not all switches were lubed. Also international buyers had to wait many more months, some had to get refunds because the switches never showed up. Vendors had the switches available before most international buyers switches shipped.
• TGR for hyping up 86us into expensiveness by posting a picture of a realforce box and a string of random numbers
• The Pingmaster seller for the outrageous international shipping costs
• Chyros for his typing skills (or lack thereof) and how he publicly indulges in showing it off.
• Lofree Dot, for being a widely social media promoted keyboard that ended up almost spammy. The keyboard had no real strong features or design aesthetics, which ended up with very strange construction features such as dual-switch modifiers and weird 2u keys, plus their followup of the Lofree Season which appears to be very uninspired revision of the Dot.
• Zeal PC, the van keyboards, keyclack, 1up keyboards. They all deserve a nomination for milking the community. Prominent community members selling cheap stuff for serious dough to lesser versed members who don't know you can get the same thing for a lot less money. Sometimes the exact same thing, just with a HEAVY markup.
• Zeal PC nomination is long overdue. Within a short 2-3 years life span, his switches went through as many revisions as Cherry MX in 30+ years. It goes to show how much efforts invested in R&D, which is very little. Zeal also has yet to offered partial refunds for his flawed switches from previous revisions. Instead, all we see is the same markup prices to milk the very community that helps him to be who he is today.
• Signature Plastics for telling 7bit and his Round X GBs to fuck off because they would rather deal with assdrop than the guy who helped them develop a product people would actually like to purchase. (SA was shit before 7bit started working with them.)

The first round ends on Sunday 26 November, 19:00 UTC.

[andrewjoy]

Can i nominate myself for the length of time it took to get my elecplus group buy finished ?

[webwit]

I nominate andrewjoy for nominating himself.

[mike52787]

I nominate MrDuul and all associated accounts for driving up beamspring prices for a few months

[E3E]

I nominate MrDuul and all associated accounts for driving up beamspring prices for a few months

[Khers]

I want to nominate massdrop for the I:C incident and I want to nominate I:C for the massdrop incident.

[akawillis]

I second massdrop for continuing to fail on numerous occasions

[Chert902]

Massdrop for not being able to tell left from right.

[OutragedPudding]

Massdrop needs to win this for their involvement in [I.C] collab switches, missing parts, shipping switches instead of entire board kits, shipping items in packaging so terrible that items fall out or are damaged and also shipping two left-handed ergodox boards to people. That's not even everything they've done since last year and the list keeps getting bigger every week or so

[codemonkeymike]

Massdrop for not being able to tell left from right.

Welcome to Deskthority

I second massdrop for continuing to fail on numerous occasions

Welcome to Deskthority


My choice would be Invyr Panda's, the switches were a major disappointment. Touted as a wobble free super smooth factory lubed switch, it ended out being very scratchy (more so then Cherry MX Blacks) and that not all switches were lubed. Also international buyers had to wait many more months, some had to get refunds because the switches never showed up. Vendors had the switches available before most international buyers switches shipped. I know Invyr at GH was trying his hardest, but it doesn't downplay how disappointed people were.

[Myoth]

TGR for hyping up 86us into expensiveness

[Lustique]

The Pingmaster seller for the outrageous international shipping costs.

[davkol]

Uh, Massderp has already been nominated.

So, I nominate Chyros for his typing skills (or lack thereof) and how he publicly indulges in showing it off.

[Chyros]

So, I nominate Chyros for his typing skills (or lack thereof) and how he publicly indulges in showing it off.

Hahaha I should've SO seen this coming xD .

[subcat]

TGR for hyping up 86us into expensiveness

seconded, tgr for posting a picture of a realforce box and a string of random numbers, thus leading 86us to sell for $300+

[flehrad]

The Lofree Dot, for being a widely social media promoted keyboard that ended up almost spammy. The keyboard had no real strong features or design aesthetics, which ended up with very strange construction features such as dual-switch modifiers and weird 2u keys, plus their followup of the Lofree Season which appears to be very uninspired revision of the Dot.

[Khers]

Zeal PC, the van keyboards, keyclack, 1up keyboards.

They all deserve a nomination for milking the community. Prominent community members selling cheap stuff for serious dough to lesser versed members who don't know you can get the same thing for a lot less money. Sometimes the exact same thing, just with a HEAVY markup.

[Delirious]

Zeal PC, the van keyboards, keyclack, 1up keyboards.

They all deserve a nomination for milking the community. Prominent community members selling cheap stuff for serious dough to lesser versed members who don't know you can get the same thing for a lot less money. Sometimes the exact same thing, just with a HEAVY markup.

Zeal PC nomination is long overdue. Within a short 2-3 years life span, his switches went through as many revisions as Cherry MX in 30+ years. It goes to show how much efforts invested in R&D, which is very little. Zeal also has yet to offered partial refunds for his flawed switches from previous revisions. Instead, all we see is the same markup prices to milk the very community that helps him to be who he is today.

[Khers]

Another nomination from my side:
Signature Plastics for telling 7bit and his Round X GBs to fuck off because they would rather deal with assdrop than the guy who helped them develop a product people would actually like to purchase. (SA was shit before 7bit started working with them.)

[scottc]

Another nomination from my side:
Signature Plastics for telling 7bit and his Round X GBs to fuck off because they would rather deal with assdrop than the guy who helped them develop a product people would actually like to purchase. (SA was shit before 7bit started working with them.)

Hahah, yes, 100 times this.

[jkaos92]

Massdrop from being assdrop Gold diggers, almost 2018 and they still didn't found a proxy to EU. The only good things about them is being a big company that could reach big MOQs, apart from that the last year showed that different proxies can work at the same way (e.g. GMK 9009 and other things multi-proxied), they are still not like massdrop but at least they care a bit about the community.
Also the last year fuckups were incredible.

ZealPC The initial idea and price was ok, but now after years the price is just slightly lower. 0.85 usually, 0.75 in GBs. This is a crazy price for Gaterons. After all this time, since the Zealio is an amazing switch, i would have expected a massproduced Zealio on every keyboard (yeah even on gamers keyboards) but this will never have a chance to happen due Zeal. Also no gateron clear tactile cuz Zeal.

[chuckdee]

Massdrop from being assdrop Gold diggers, almost 2018 and they still didn't found a proxy to EU. The only good things about them is being a big company that could reach big MOQs, apart from that the last year showed that different proxies can work at the same way (e.g. GMK 9009 and other things multi-proxied), they are still not like massdrop but at least they care a bit about the community.
Also the last year fuckups were incredible.

ZealPC The initial idea and price was ok, but now after years the price is just slightly lower. 0.85 usually, 0.75 in GBs. This is a crazy price for Gaterons. After all this time, since the Zealio is an amazing switch, i would have expected a massproduced Zealio on every keyboard (yeah even on gamers keyboards) but this will never have a chance to happen due Zeal. Also no gateron clear tactile cuz Zeal.

Both have already been nominated.

[jkaos92]

Massdrop from being assdrop Gold diggers, almost 2018 and they still didn't found a proxy to EU. The only good things about them is being a big company that could reach big MOQs, apart from that the last year showed that different proxies can work at the same way (e.g. GMK 9009 and other things multi-proxied), they are still not like massdrop but at least they care a bit about the community.
Also the last year fuckups were incredible.

ZealPC The initial idea and price was ok, but now after years the price is just slightly lower. 0.85 usually, 0.75 in GBs. This is a crazy price for Gaterons. After all this time, since the Zealio is an amazing switch, i would have expected a massproduced Zealio on every keyboard (yeah even on gamers keyboards) but this will never have a chance to happen due Zeal. Also no gateron clear tactile cuz Zeal.

Both have already been nominated.

I'm retarded and sorry

Seriously wanted just to add more "reasons", not sure if there will be listed reasons of the nomination.

[SAisBAE]

1up and the $378 carbon fiber TKL

Pete got into a microcenter and was offering a $378 kit that was sandwich acrylic without a middle layer, leading to an exposed PCB. Still defends the price as fair and fails to see why people would rather have a top mounted aluminum board at that price.

People already talking about the flippy nature of the site.

[webwit]

Too late! The next round has just started.

[ramnes]

ramnes for missing DT awards call for nominees

[ramnes]

TGR for hyping up 86us into expensiveness

seconded, tgr for posting a picture of a realforce box and a string of random numbers, thus leading 86us to sell for $300+

Where?

[evangs]

Zeal PC, the van keyboards, keyclack, 1up keyboards.

They all deserve a nomination for milking the community. Prominent community members selling cheap stuff for serious dough to lesser versed members who don't know you can get the same thing for a lot less money. Sometimes the exact same thing, just with a HEAVY markup.

I normally just let stuff like this go, but this is simply inaccurate. Nearly everything TheVan Keyboards sells are things that we have designed and created. so you can't get the same stuff somewhere else. There is such a thing as development cost not to mention that I have gone out of my way to include support for very niche things that no one else is supporting as well as buying up inventory to meet moq. I've got 30 plus Alps international kits for LightCycle sitting in a box that will probably never find a home. You act as if I am swimming in cash and that simply isn't true. I find your post extremely disrespectful, but you are entitled to your opinion. Please, however, do not spread false information.

[andrewjoy]

Zeal PC, the van keyboards, keyclack, 1up keyboards.

They all deserve a nomination for milking the community. Prominent community members selling cheap stuff for serious dough to lesser versed members who don't know you can get the same thing for a lot less money. Sometimes the exact same thing, just with a HEAVY markup.

I normally just let stuff like this go, but this is simply inaccurate. Nearly everything TheVan Keyboards sells are things that we have designed and created. so you can't get the same stuff somewhere else. There is such a thing as development cost not to mention that I have gone out of my way to include support for very niche things that no one else is supporting as well as buying up inventory to meet moq. I've got 30 plus Alps international kits for LightCycle sitting in a box that will probably never find a home. You act as if I am swimming in cash and that simply isn't true. I find your post extremely disrespectful, but you are entitled to your opinion. Please, however, do not spread false information.

Alps caps you say ? Do tell i may be interested .

[chuckdee]

Zeal PC, the van keyboards, keyclack, 1up keyboards.

They all deserve a nomination for milking the community. Prominent community members selling cheap stuff for serious dough to lesser versed members who don't know you can get the same thing for a lot less money. Sometimes the exact same thing, just with a HEAVY markup.

I normally just let stuff like this go, but this is simply inaccurate. Nearly everything TheVan Keyboards sells are things that we have designed and created. so you can't get the same stuff somewhere else. There is such a thing as development cost not to mention that I have gone out of my way to include support for very niche things that no one else is supporting as well as buying up inventory to meet moq. I've got 30 plus Alps international kits for LightCycle sitting in a box that will probably never find a home. You act as if I am swimming in cash and that simply isn't true. I find your post extremely disrespectful, but you are entitled to your opinion. Please, however, do not spread false information.

Thanks for this response. I was going to, but shied away from the drama that saying it myself would cause. I remember when I was first starting out and you were starting the MiniVan, and how you really helped me to understand the costs, taking the time to educate me on a few areas. I can't thank you enough for that, and one of the smoothest buys I've ever participated in. That buy helped me to extend trust to others, despite the fact that my mind tells me otherwise.

Thanks again for all that you do.

(I could write the same thing about jchan and keyclack also. He's had his problems as of late, but I disagree with the nomination for him, also.)